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The cookie monster said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Marvin said:
Instead of sticking the knife in with the FA Cup still to be won, and the Champions League qualification to be secured, how about we support the team, stop giving ammunition to the enemies and see what the rest of the season brings.

Our performance over the rest of the season will be the deciding factor anyway.
The usual response from those who have lost the argument. When I go to games I do support the team 100%. Mancini isn't the team however and when I come on here I express my honest opinion.

Do you really think that after the performances in the CL and at Southampton and Everton that our enemies need any ammunition? Plus I think that our owners have already made their minds up about Mancini, although whether that's to stick with him whatever, give him another season or get rid sooner I don't know.

Do you sing his name p.b?
I do usually but I also sang "Hughsey, Hughsey give us a wave" and "Alan Ball is a football genius". I sing about David Silva being the maestro of Maine Road even though he couldn't point out the place on a map. I sing about The Pope telling Man Utd to fuck off, even though he wouldn't do that in a million years. Etc.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
George Hannah said:
Yaya_Tony said:
Who on Earth could he be referring to?
It's quaint how every defeat becomes a moral issue for the Cabal. All about what our manager ought to have done. The idea we were just desperately unlucky against the blue dippers is a mere aside.
I can tell you, as a 100% nailed-on fact, that our owners are not great believers in the concept of a bit of bad luck. Certainly not when it seems to be happening a bit too frequently.
I suspect they'd also be a little angry at the referee's decision-making and regretting the absence of the Captain, Yaya Toure, and Aguero. Do you think Mancini was happy? He was reportedly too angry to speak.

How about a bit of balance and context?

If you are right, and Mancini is not the right manager it will show in results and you will have your decision. What do we do in the meantime? Speculate, comment fair enough. But some of it goes too far and is counter-productive
 
Marvin said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Right. That's about the fourth time you've insinuated that those wanting Mancini out don't go to matches or have only just started going.

I want Mancini out.

Lets hear how long you've been going and how many games, home and away, you've attended over that period. Just to put a bit of context on your insinuations, of course.
Who is that aimed at? I know you are a long standing City fan.

I don't think agitating for the manager to be sacked when we're on our way back to Wembley counts as support though - especially when 12 months ago we were about to experience the happiest days of our City supporting lives.

And when your cohorts suggest that we replace Mancini, a manager who has won League titles in Italy and England with a manager who has won one Interto Cup and flopped spectacularly at Real Madrid it really does destroy any credibility you may have earned through your collective long years of supporting the club - or would you like to disassociate yourself from the campaign to install Pellegrini as City manager?
It's aimed at st Helen's blue who is repeatedly insinuating that those who want Mancini out are new fans or fans who don't come to games.

And for the thousandth time, as you don't appear to get it, you don't 'support' a club on a forum. You discuss it. As it goes, I've got my hotel and train already booked for Wembley where I will be 'supporting' city by roaring them on.

And when you start saying that, just because one or two people have discussed the merits of various replacements, that there is a 'campaign' to install one of them, you move Into the realms of the ridiculous. You are simply jumping gleefully on a straw man to avoid the argument.
 
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
George Hannah said:
It's quaint how every defeat becomes a moral issue for the Cabal. All about what our manager ought to have done. The idea we were just desperately unlucky against the blue dippers is a mere aside.
I can tell you, as a 100% nailed-on fact, that our owners are not great believers in the concept of a bit of bad luck. Certainly not when it seems to be happening a bit too frequently.

So I take it you have met our owners and discussed the relative merits of karma and kismet with them?
Because if you haven't,then you are purely in the realms of speculation and hypothesis.
Which you are perfectly entitled to do.
But it doesn't qualify as '100% nailed-on fact'.
It is merely opinion.
I know the difference between an opinion and a fact, thank you. And what I've said is a fact, whatever your opinion of it is.

Do a search and you'll see the full story. I posted it after the Sunderland game so it'll be on Boxing Day or the day after.
 
Seosa said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
How about?

Pellegrini,
He comes from Chile,
to manage Man Citeh,
Pellegrini,



Songs come and go- not heard the Mario one for a while - all City fans loved him too!

Tolm doing some fishing...?


He is a real contender. I don't know enough about him, outside of his attacking style and Begiristain is an admirer.

He must have something about him because Chelsea are tapping him up at every opportunity also.

I was simply having a bit of a joke with those who suggest football chants mean that much in terms of a consensus.

The Balotelli song was sung by thousands, but there were perhaps just as many who wanted rid.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Marvin said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Right. That's about the fourth time you've insinuated that those wanting Mancini out don't go to matches or have only just started going.

I want Mancini out.

Lets hear how long you've been going and how many games, home and away, you've attended over that period. Just to put a bit of context on your insinuations, of course.
Who is that aimed at? I know you are a long standing City fan.

I don't think agitating for the manager to be sacked when we're on our way back to Wembley counts as support though - especially when 12 months ago we were about to experience the happiest days of our City supporting lives.

And when your cohorts suggest that we replace Mancini, a manager who has won League titles in Italy and England with a manager who has won one Interto Cup and flopped spectacularly at Real Madrid it really does destroy any credibility you may have earned through your collective long years of supporting the club - or would you like to disassociate yourself from the campaign to install Pellegrini as City manager?
It's aimed at st Helen's blue who is repeatedly insinuating that those who want Mancini out are new fans or fans who don't come to games.

And for the thousandth time, as you don't appear to get it, you don't 'support' a club on a forum. You discuss it. As it goes, I've got my hotel and train already booked for Wembley where I will be 'supporting' city by roaring them on.

And when you start saying that, just because one or two people have discussed the merits of various replacements, that there is a 'campaign' to install one of them, you move Into the realms of the ridiculous. You are simply jumping gleefully on a straw man to avoid the argument.

Isn't discussing the relative merits of any successor to a man who has a five year contract,regarding a vacancy that doesn't actually exist take the strawman hypothesis into a whole new dimension?
Why speculate at all until such time as Mancini is actually fired,or his contract is due to expire?
As far as I am aware,nobody in the City hierarchy has intimated that they are dissatisfied with him,or are considering a change.
So why all the talk regarding a replacement?
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
I can tell you, as a 100% nailed-on fact, that our owners are not great believers in the concept of a bit of bad luck. Certainly not when it seems to be happening a bit too frequently.

So I take it you have met our owners and discussed the relative merits of karma and kismet with them?
Because if you haven't,then you are purely in the realms of speculation and hypothesis.
Which you are perfectly entitled to do.
But it doesn't qualify as '100% nailed-on fact'.
It is merely opinion.
I know the difference between an opinion and a fact, thank you. And what I've said is a fact, whatever your opinion of it is.

Do a search and you'll see the full story. I posted it after the Sunderland game so it'll be on Boxing Day or the day after.

I really couldn't care less what you post.
I seem to recall you were going to reveal some massive corruption scandal that would rock the football world to it's core a couple of months ago.
We're still waiting for that expose.
If you haven't met the owners,then you don't know what they think - it really is as simple as that,despite whatever supposed itk-based theories you may come up with.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
Seosa said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
How about?

Pellegrini,
He comes from Chile,
to manage Man Citeh,
Pellegrini,



Songs come and go- not heard the Mario one for a while - all City fans loved him too!

Tolm doing some fishing...?


He is a real contender. I don't know enough about him, outside of his attacking style and Begiristain is an admirer.

He must have something about him because Chelsea are tapping him up at every opportunity also.

I was simply having a bit of a joke with those who suggest football chants mean that much in terms of a consensus.

The Balotelli song was sung by thousands, but there were perhaps just as many who wanted rid.

i wanted rid but still sang it.

it's like DD says, your opinion in the pub or here doesn't reflect what you're like at games.

i really wanted hughes out but i didn't shout "hughes out!" at games.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Marvin said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Right. That's about the fourth time you've insinuated that those wanting Mancini out don't go to matches or have only just started going.

I want Mancini out.

Lets hear how long you've been going and how many games, home and away, you've attended over that period. Just to put a bit of context on your insinuations, of course.
Who is that aimed at? I know you are a long standing City fan.

I don't think agitating for the manager to be sacked when we're on our way back to Wembley counts as support though - especially when 12 months ago we were about to experience the happiest days of our City supporting lives.

And when your cohorts suggest that we replace Mancini, a manager who has won League titles in Italy and England with a manager who has won one Interto Cup and flopped spectacularly at Real Madrid it really does destroy any credibility you may have earned through your collective long years of supporting the club - or would you like to disassociate yourself from the campaign to install Pellegrini as City manager?
It's aimed at st Helen's blue who is repeatedly insinuating that those who want Mancini out are new fans or fans who don't come to games.

And for the thousandth time, as you don't appear to get it, you don't 'support' a club on a forum. You discuss it. As it goes, I've got my hotel and train already booked for Wembley where I will be 'supporting' city by roaring them on.

And when you start saying that, just because one or two people have discussed the merits of various replacements, that there is a 'campaign' to install one of them, you move Into the realms of the ridiculous. You are simply jumping gleefully on a straw man to avoid the argument.

Spot on as usual DD.

I will be there at Wembley for the semi, just as I was there as a 9 year old with my dad and grandad in 1974 for the LC final against Wolves......even though by the measuring stick employed by some of the lame brains on here, my doubts about Mancini's ability to take us anywhere other than backwards from here on in, make me a JCL twat, who should go and support Chelsea, and who needs to buy a giant shoehorn to prize me out of my armchair
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Marvin said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Right. That's about the fourth time you've insinuated that those wanting Mancini out don't go to matches or have only just started going.

I want Mancini out.

Lets hear how long you've been going and how many games, home and away, you've attended over that period. Just to put a bit of context on your insinuations, of course.
Who is that aimed at? I know you are a long standing City fan.

I don't think agitating for the manager to be sacked when we're on our way back to Wembley counts as support though - especially when 12 months ago we were about to experience the happiest days of our City supporting lives.

And when your cohorts suggest that we replace Mancini, a manager who has won League titles in Italy and England with a manager who has won one Interto Cup and flopped spectacularly at Real Madrid it really does destroy any credibility you may have earned through your collective long years of supporting the club - or would you like to disassociate yourself from the campaign to install Pellegrini as City manager?
It's aimed at st Helen's blue who is repeatedly insinuating that those who want Mancini out are new fans or fans who don't come to games.

And for the thousandth time, as you don't appear to get it, you don't 'support' a club on a forum. You discuss it. As it goes, I've got my hotel and train already booked for Wembley where I will be 'supporting' city by roaring them on.

And when you start saying that, just because one or two people have discussed the merits of various replacements, that there is a 'campaign' to install one of them, you move Into the realms of the ridiculous. You are simply jumping gleefully on a straw man to avoid the argument.
I do get the distinction between discussion on a forum and supporting the club at the ground, but there are consequences to discussion. Ideas influence, unsettle and at the moment it's more like a campaign to depose the manager.

I'll be at Wembley with you too
 
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