Mancini

[Oohvonkyvonky]

I'll give you a clue he accuses posters of camping out on numerous player threads and slagging them off :)

Quick......run downstairs and tell everyone that its up to 692 pages lololololol, converse on what cake your going to eat and then come back up and help to make it 693............

Are you pissed? Or on crack?

 

[Anonymous]

Just to move away from Mancini a bit but I think it's relevant to this thread, a couple of the papers this morning are speculating that Mourinho may be bound for PSG rather than Chelsea. Not sure what Danamy thinks about this (not seen him post for a week or two), but whether Mancini stays or not, I'd be far happier if Jose doesn't pitch up at Stamford Bridge; Chelsea would be a far more formidable force under his management, IMO.

Totally agree. Mourinho at PSG is much more preferable to Mourinho at Chelsea. I still haven't figured out why we're not moving heaven and earth to bring him here though. Big mistake imo.

You don't know we're not tbf. Personally I think there's little doubt the conversation will have been had. May not come to anything but I don't see how you canvass for new managers and not talk to the best. Especially when it's apparent he's available. Or going to be. You would rightly have to keep it a water tight secret considering Mancini lost his last job to Mou too.

 

[andyhinch]

Spend 5 minutes of your time looking at the names downstairs and you will know.

Not too difficult.

Dont agree with the bottom feeder remark as i much prefer the shits and giggles brigade tag myself ;-)

Alas, no then. Oh well, the bottom feeder mystery continues. Who are the bottom feeders?

I like a bit of rump, so probably me.

 

[robbieh]

The two odds on managerial bets at the moment are

Mou to Chelsea
Carlo to Madrid

both of which make sense.

So that leaves PSG needing a coach and Benitez without a job. Wold Benitez go to Paris? Maybe.

If we were to put coaches into Pools a la CL then it might look like this.

Pool 1

Mourinho, Guardiola, Ferguson(not my view, but probably the view of many students of the game). Capello, Lippi

Pool 2

Ancelotti, Mancini, Conte, Klopp, Heynkes, Wenger, Hiddink

Pool 3

Benitez, Pellegrini, Laudrup, de Boer, Rikjaard(?? not sure), Simeone


It looks increasingly likely that if RM were to leave then we will not be getting a top of the range manager in. Mou, Pep gone. Capello too similar to Mancini in some respects. Lippi too old?

Group 2 guys look unlikely for different reasons. Which leaves Group 3.

Don't think Rafa would be too popular on here. If we look at Txiki's past then the new guy would be young, rules out Pellegrini.

Much might depend on the race for CL spots. Would Mou go to Chelsea if they aren't in it next year. Could we entice Wenger if Arsenal do lose out. What about AVB, he's young and hasn't done a bad job at Spurs.

Frankly with so much doubt then I can see Mancini staying but if he goes I reckon the Barca boys may ask Patrick Vieira to take over.

 

[Thenumber1blue]

So the solution is to throw a lot more money at it.

If it's true that his nett spend is only about £185 million,then yes he should spend some more.

Hang on its only just shy of £200 Million. I did not realise that it was such a minuscule amount.

Thought our owners had deep pockets the tight bastards.

How is any manager supposed to challenge for a title with that sort of outlay never mind get out of the CL group stage.

That was my thinking.

 

[Rammy Blue]

Just to move away from Mancini a bit but I think it's relevant to this thread, a couple of the papers this morning are speculating that Mourinho may be bound for PSG rather than Chelsea. Not sure what Danamy thinks about this (not seen him post for a week or two), but whether Mancini stays or not, I'd be far happier if Jose doesn't pitch up at Stamford Bridge; Chelsea would be a far more formidable force under his management, IMO.

Totally agree. Mourinho at PSG is much more preferable to Mourinho at Chelsea. I still haven't figured out why we're not moving heaven and earth to bring him here though. Big mistake imo.

You don't know we're not tbf. Personally I think there's little doubt the conversation will have been had. May not come to anything but I don't see how you canvass for new managers and not talk to the best. Especially when it's apparent he's available. Or going to be. You would rightly have to keep it a water tight secret considering Mancini lost his last job to Mou too.

Yep. It's interesting as well that Beasley chucks our name into his article today in The Sun, first time we've been mentioned for a while.

 

[samharris]

You're all missing the important point about 'kompanygate'.

The problem is not vinny playing for Belgium.

The problem is not Mancini having a problem with him playing for Belgium.

The problem is our idiot manager going public with his issue with vinny (not with belgium) and criticising kompany in the media.

None of this would be being discussed if he hasn't done that. Yet again he showed poor judgement in front of the media. It doesn't matter whether he had a point or not. What matters is how he handled it, and the fallout from that.

What fallout? The one on here?

Thats the one..the fallout that keeps giving..again and again and again.. its so fucking boring now.. wake me up when its over...

 

[hgblue]

Just to move away from Mancini a bit but I think it's relevant to this thread, a couple of the papers this morning are speculating that Mourinho may be bound for PSG rather than Chelsea. Not sure what Danamy thinks about this (not seen him post for a week or two), but whether Mancini stays or not, I'd be far happier if Jose doesn't pitch up at Stamford Bridge; Chelsea would be a far more formidable force under his management, IMO.

Totally agree. Mourinho at PSG is much more preferable to Mourinho at Chelsea. I still haven't figured out why we're not moving heaven and earth to bring him here though. Big mistake imo.

You don't know we're not tbf. Personally I think there's little doubt the conversation will have been had. May not come to anything but I don't see how you canvass for new managers and not talk to the best. Especially when it's apparent he's available. Or going to be. You would rightly have to keep it a water tight secret considering Mancini lost his last job to Mou too.

This is it mate. I can't get my head around why we'd simply stand aside and watch Mourinho rock up at Chelsea. Normally I can see the logic in a course of action, even if I don't agree with it, but this one has me stumped. I cling to the probably faint hope that it suits City and Jose to keep this secret, so the club are happy to see him linked with rival clubs, but it seems far more likely that the decision has been taken that he's not right for us. If this is the case, we will live to regret it imo.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Totally agree. Mourinho at PSG is much more preferable to Mourinho at Chelsea. I still haven't figured out why we're not moving heaven and earth to bring him here though. Big mistake imo.

You don't know we're not tbf. Personally I think there's little doubt the conversation will have been had. May not come to anything but I don't see how you canvass for new managers and not talk to the best. Especially when it's apparent he's available. Or going to be. You would rightly have to keep it a water tight secret considering Mancini lost his last job to Mou too.

Yep. It's interesting as well that Beasley chucks our name into his article today in The Sun, first time we've been mentioned for a while.

It's merely for the purpose of giving Chelsea a shove.

Beasley has written it as a favour because as it stands, Jose's preferred choices are not open to him at this stage.

Another good piece from Mullock in the Mirror today. Having Mancini in Abu Dhabi for three days last week.

City have said it was a holiday! Just a few days after Mancini came back from ten days in Italy?

The most interesting thing to emerge are the quotes from Javi Garcia today (also Mirror).

Garcia: "I knew in June that Roberto Mancini wanted me, but the move couldn't go through because Benfica were pushing for a deal that was in their best interests financially.

"I was worried that I would miss out, so I went to speak with the Benfica president with my agent and told him the deal was good for everyone concerned.

"That was the reason my transfer went through so late."

So Marwood is still to blame for our transfer policy last summer and Garcia was forced upon Mancini?

I thought we left it late? June can not be considered late.

 

[Rolee]

You don't know we're not tbf. Personally I think there's little doubt the conversation will have been had. May not come to anything but I don't see how you canvass for new managers and not talk to the best. Especially when it's apparent he's available. Or going to be. You would rightly have to keep it a water tight secret considering Mancini lost his last job to Mou too.

Yep. It's interesting as well that Beasley chucks our name into his article today in The Sun, first time we've been mentioned for a while.

It's merely for the purpose of giving Chelsea a shove.

Beasley has written it as a favour because as it stands, Jose's preferred choices are not open to him at this stage.

Another good piece from Mullock in the Mirror today. Having Mancini in Abu Dhabi for three days last week.

City have said it was a holiday! Just a few days after Mancini came back from ten days in Italy?

The most interesting thing to emerge are the quotes from Javi Garcia today (also Mirror).

Garcia: "I knew in June that Roberto Mancini wanted me, but the move couldn't go through because Benfica were pushing for a deal that was in their best interests financially.

"I was worried that I would miss out, so I went to speak with the Benfica president with my agent and told him the deal was good for everyone concerned.

"That was the reason my transfer went through so late."

So Marwood is still to blame for our transfer policy last summer and Garcia was forced upon Mancini?

I thought we left it late? June can not be considered late.

They're old quotes Tolmie, that was said just after he arrived.

 

[Anonymous]

Totally agree. Mourinho at PSG is much more preferable to Mourinho at Chelsea. I still haven't figured out why we're not moving heaven and earth to bring him here though. Big mistake imo.

You don't know we're not tbf. Personally I think there's little doubt the conversation will have been had. May not come to anything but I don't see how you canvass for new managers and not talk to the best. Especially when it's apparent he's available. Or going to be. You would rightly have to keep it a water tight secret considering Mancini lost his last job to Mou too.

This is it mate. I can't get my head around why we'd simply stand aside and watch Mourinho rock up at Chelsea. Normally I can see the logic in a course of action, even if I don't agree with it, but this one has me stumped. I cling to the probably faint hope that it suits City and Jose to keep this secret, so the club are happy to see him linked with rival clubs, but it seems far more likely that the decision has been taken that he's not right for us. If this is the case, we will live to regret it imo.

I'm pretty calm about the whole thing. Txiki will know firsthand what it's like having Mourinho in your league. He can see how far behind the rags we are. If Mourinho does go to Chelsea, City will need a huge injection of belief going into next season and IMO that won't come from giving Mancini more time and players. His effect has already been too corrosive on the core of the current squad.

 

[Rammy Blue]

Out of interest, as I may have missed it, but why would PSG dispense with Ancelotti? Looks like the league is in the bag and made the QF of chumps on first go whilst giving Barca a decent game.

 

[KennyG]

It frustrates me how PSG have made the transition to the top smoother than MCFC
Better players earlier in the project
All this about attracting top managers, they won't come etc...
Who wouldn't want this job with the infrastucture and finance available
This season could be a blessing if we start to flex our financial muscle bigtime
Any player or manager is attainable
Its time to make our mark and become a european heavyweight

 

[blueinsa]

It frustrates me how PSG have made the transition to the top smoother than MCFC
Better players earlier in the project
All this about attracting top managers, they won't come etc...
Who wouldn't want this job with the infrastucture and finance available
This season could be a blessing if we start to flex our financial muscle bigtime
Any player or manager is attainable
Its time to make our mark and become a european heavyweight

This mate. Fuck any thought or worries about FFP, just like PSG surely have done and just get it done.

 

[waspish]

It frustrates me how PSG have made the transition to the top smoother than MCFC
Better players earlier in the project
All this about attracting top managers, they won't come etc...
Who wouldn't want this job with the infrastucture and finance available
This season could be a blessing if we start to flex our financial muscle bigtime
Any player or manager is attainable
Its time to make our mark and become a european heavyweight

They don't have one club In there league dictating everything to the Fa and media you just have to look at the papers today to see who run the media

 

[Rammy Blue]

It's merely for the purpose of giving Chelsea a shove.

Beasley has written it as a favour because as it stands, Jose's preferred choices are not open to him at this stage.

That's what I don't get though mate.

Surely it's the easiest deal going to be done, if necessary and both parties want it. Chelsea have a lame duck in place and Jose is on the market having managed at Chelsea before.

If it was going to happen it would already be done and there'd be no need for a "shove".

 

[Anonymous]

Out of interest, as I may have missed it, but why would PSG dispense with Ancelotti? Looks like the league is in the bag and made the QF of chumps on first go whilst giving Barca a decent game.

They won't, the Qatari's like him and have gone on record in recent weeks to say "if he wants to stay, he stays". Think there's a fear the Madrid job will tempt him away.

 

[Rammy Blue]

Out of interest, as I may have missed it, but why would PSG dispense with Ancelotti? Looks like the league is in the bag and made the QF of chumps on first go whilst giving Barca a decent game.

They won't, the Qatari's like him and have gone on record in recent weeks to say "if he wants to stay, he stays". Think there's a fear the Madrid job will tempt him away.

If that was the case then I certainly can't see why Jose would want to swap jobs with him. Carlo quits PSG for a step up at Real, why would Jose see PSG as a decent career move?

 

[Anonymous]

Out of interest, as I may have missed it, but why would PSG dispense with Ancelotti? Looks like the league is in the bag and made the QF of chumps on first go whilst giving Barca a decent game.

They won't, the Qatari's like him and have gone on record in recent weeks to say "if he wants to stay, he stays". Think there's a fear the Madrid job will tempt him away.

If that was the case then I certainly can't see why Jose would want to swap jobs with him. Carlo quits PSG for a step up at Real, why would Jose see PSG as a decent career move?

I've said it tons of times. IMO there's zero chance of Mou going to manage in the fifth or sixth most competitive league in Europe no matter how much money is on offer.

 

[Rammy Blue]

They won't, the Qatari's like him and have gone on record in recent weeks to say "if he wants to stay, he stays". Think there's a fear the Madrid job will tempt him away.

If that was the case then I certainly can't see why Jose would want to swap jobs with him. Carlo quits PSG for a step up at Real, why would Jose see PSG as a decent career move?

I've said it tons of times. IMO there's zero chance of Mou going to manage in the fifth or sixth most competitive league in Europe no matter how much money is on offer.

Cool, agreed then mate. Just wondered if I was missing something.

Therefore going back to my post above to Tolm, the "only" place really open to Jose is Chelsea (taking us out of the equation for a minute...), so wouldn't you have thought the deal would already be done in that case seeing as there aren't really any hurdles in the way of it?