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Pablo1 said:
FantasyIreland said:
hilts said:
I think the question is how important do our owners think the FA cup and Community shield are?

Mancini's CV is the most important factor.

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Which given how impressive it is surely bodes well for him being here next season - even his biggest critic must concede that...that is of course if his CV does play such a large roll

Covering old ground(again) however,no one is disputing he has done a good job but that job is confined to domestic success with no sign whatsoever of European progress,a problem which is effecting our long term strategy.
Its my opinion that we cannot afford to waste another season in the hope he will suddenly produce those goods when substantial evidence says otherwise.
 
OB1 said:
Seriously, does anyone out there think it is a good thing that when the team captain walks off the pitch, he blanks the manager and vice-versa?

If you take each on Mancini's public criticisms of his players individually, you can wave them away with an excuse of some sort, if that is how you want to spin it. However, these are not isolated incidents and there is a pattern here; it's a pattern that some of us do not think is a good one. Football is about teamwork and the manager should, at least in my opinion, be part of the team not in conflict with it on, what seems like, an increasingly regular basis. Clearly, it can't always be sweetness and light but ultimately I'd say harmony has more benefit to teamwork than conflict. Wasn't it part Hitler's managerial style to encourage something akin to creative tension amongst his subordinated? It might have succeeded for a while but didn't end well.

Oh deary me
Tut Tut!
 
OB1 said:
CV's get you jobs; they don't keep you in them.
They do if you keep improving on that CV.

Maybe, we'll find, that agreements have already been met with regard to the manager and the board and the way forward has already been set.

Just saying.
 
The Future's Blue said:
OB1 said:
CV's get you jobs; they don't keep you in them.
They do if you keep improving on that CV.

That depends on whether or not performance in the job is deemed to be enough by your employer.

But, semantics aside. A decision on Mancini's future may have been made but as we don't know if it has, the debate will continue.
 
OB1 said:
CV's get you jobs; they don't keep you in them.

Which is true - the whole premise of this debate though is based around one set of fans believing he's done enough to continue whilst others don't.
I guess the point I'm making is it isn't cut and dry on either side, both have reasonable cases to make and both will consider their side of the argument the strongest, it's human nature at the end of the day isn't it.
I personally think he has done enough to warrant being here next season, but I'm not so entrenched in my view that if changes are made I'd be pissed off - unless the new man isn't Mourinho, then I would. :-)
 
The Future's Blue said:
How many are still hanging to the faint hope that Mancini is out at the end of the season?

I was still clinging to the faint hope that we were going to bring Mourinho in in the summer, but the news that he's off to Chelsea has scuppered that. This leaves me in the strange situation of actively hoping to be proved wrong as Mancini proves himself to be the top quality manager that many on here believe him to be, by showing Mourinho and Ferguson a clean pair of heels next season. Sadly I think this will prove to be a forlorn hope.
 
hgblue said:
The Future's Blue said:
How many are still hanging to the faint hope that Mancini is out at the end of the season?

I was still clinging to the faint hope that we were going to bring Mourinho in in the summer, but the news that he's off to Chelsea has scuppered that. This leaves me in the strange situation of actively hoping to be proved wrong as Mancini proves himself to be the top quality manager that many on here believe him to be, by showing Mourinho and Ferguson a clean pair of heels next season. Sadly I think this will prove to be a forlorn hope.
I don't know mate. A couple of early signings to warm the cockles and then the challenge of what could be an almighty battle.

As they say, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Me, I can't wait to see what happens next season but I'm going to enjoy the end of this one first.
 
hgblue said:
The Future's Blue said:
How many are still hanging to the faint hope that Mancini is out at the end of the season?

I was still clinging to the faint hope that we were going to bring Mourinho in in the summer, but the news that he's off to Chelsea has scuppered that. This leaves me in the strange situation of actively hoping to be proved wrong as Mancini proves himself to be the top quality manager that many on here believe him to be, by showing Mourinho and Ferguson a clean pair of heels next season. Sadly I think this will prove to be a forlorn hope.

I'd be very surprised if any genuine supporter did not want Mancini to be our Ferguson,however,no matter how good his coaching/tactics etc. ever are,he will never be able to change his personality,and,this appears to me,to be a fundamental reason he will never be in that class.
 
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