Mancini

[nehe11]

I think it is clear that the academy is going to be the key to our future success and the fact we have brought in Txiki who has worked with arguably the best academy in the world speaks volumes to who is in charge.

You do not invest 100+ million on a world class academy complex and bring in a man with the track record Txiki has as a DoF and not give him full control.

Its obvious that it is up to Txiki if Mancini stays or goes and its easy to see why some folk want him gone and some want him to stay.

You can look at Mancini in two ways you can say he is a very poor man manager who fails to get the most out of his squad. You can also add that he is not very good in the UCL, has a habit of playing out club affairs in the media, couldn't manage Balotelli who he invested a lot of time and money on and has managed City and Inter both at fortunate times.

or

You can say Mancini has a very strict but SUCCESSFUL man management style and has won trophies where ever he has been. You could point out that Wenger and Fergies record is not the best in Europe when considering how many times they have been in the UCL. You can say that Mancini is a safe bet domestically and that he turned Mario into a 20 million plus striker.

IMO I think the only man who is going to cost Mancini his job is himself. He needs to accept that this club has moved on since he started here. There is no more Garry Cook trying to buy which ever top class player is available. There is no more Marwood in charge of transfers who he can blame when he does not get his own way.

Mancini has been a big part of our success so far and there in no doubt about that however the way we have acquired our success is unsustainable and the way our club is now run has changed and unless Mancini adapts to this then he will be out of a job.

To get to where we want to be we need everyone from top to bottom working in the same direction and unless this happens our progress will be hindered.

Good post

 

[Marvin]

For those claiming there are no alternatives to Mancini, Malaga vs Dortmund was a cracking first half. Free flowing, inventive football and two well organised teams. A credit to both managers.

From a playing point of view, Isco looks good, as does Joaquin, and Lewandowski would surely make a common sense alternative to the vastly overpriced (much as I like him) Cavani.......

Pace, movement, pressing, high tempo passing...

There's a few "name me a manager better than Mancini" merchants on here, who'd do well to watch and learn, that's for sure

Be serious! You watch a good game, and it's an advert against Mancini?

How can you discuss anything seriously if this is the kind of mentality involved.

As for Joaquin he's been around for ages and no longer plays for Spain. His best days are very much behind him

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Looks like bullshit, smells like bullshit, it even translates as bullshit.

That's the 2nd post on page one of this thread.
Six thousand posts later and the only thing that's altered is the depth of the bullshit.

If you remove all the posts that simply commentate on the debate (like yours), as opposed to adding to it, this thread wouldn't be half the size it is, and there'd be much less bullshit.

Be careful not to drown in your own piss and importance there old chap.

 

[Bluemoon115]

That's the 2nd post on page one of this thread.
Six thousand posts later and the only thing that's altered is the depth of the bullshit.

If you remove all the posts that simply commentate on the debate (like yours), as opposed to adding to it, this thread wouldn't be half the size it is, and there'd be much less bullshit.

Be careful not to drown in your own piss and importance there old chap.

No chance of that, I'm well out of harms way up here on my pedestal.

 

[BlueAnorak]

I think it is clear that the academy is going to be the key to our future success and the fact we have brought in Txiki who has worked with arguably the best academy in the world speaks volumes to who is in charge.
You do not invest 100+ million on a world class academy complex and bring in a man with the track record Txiki has as a DoF and not give him full control.

Of the Academy yes. The rest of football affairs. No. Not until he has proven himself.

Its obvious that it is up to Txiki if Mancini stays or goes and its easy to see why some folk want him gone and some want him to stay.

To you maybe. Having previously sub-contracted work from Etisalat I can say with a fair degree of accuracy that he won't get a say in dismissing Mancini - not until he has proven himself at the Accademy.

You can look at Mancini in two ways you can say he is a very poor man manager who fails to get the most out of his squad. You can also add that he is not very good in the UCL, has a habit of playing out club affairs in the media, couldn't manage Balotelli who he invested a lot of time and money on and has managed City and Inter both at fortunate times.
- or -
You can say Mancini has a very strict but SUCCESSFUL man management style and has won trophies where ever he has been. You could point out that Wenger and Fergies record is not the best in Europe when considering how many times they have been in the UCL. You can say that Mancini is a safe bet domestically and that he turned Mario into a 20 million plus striker.

True. It depends on whether your an outer or an inner.

IMO I think the only man who is going to cost Mancini his job is himself. He needs to accept that this club has moved on since he started here. There is no more Garry Cook trying to buy which ever top class player is available. There is no more Marwood in charge of transfers who he can blame when he does not get his own way.

Correct. City have to improve of the next two years for Mancini to get past year 3 where there is probably a break clause.

Mancini has been a big part of our success so far and there in no doubt about that however the way we have acquired our success is unsustainable and the way our club is now run has changed and unless Mancini adapts to this then he will be out of a job.
To get to where we want to be we need everyone from top to bottom working in the same direction and unless this happens our progress will be hindered.

Very true. But that is Txiki's job to get the Academy working properly. NOT Mancini.

 

[bluesoup]

This thread just keeps giving - such great entertainment. Keep it up all...

 

[CC1]

Pace, movement, pressing, high tempo passing...

There's a few "name me a manager better than Mancini" merchants on here, who'd do well to watch and learn, that's for sure

Be serious! You watch a good game, and it's an advert against Mancini?

How can you discuss anything seriously if this is the kind of mentality involved.

As for Joaquin he's been around for ages and no longer plays for Spain. His best days are very much behind him

0-0 draw??? If that was Mancini he'd be crucified

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

So a good game to watch now automatically means that the managers involved are better than Mancini?
I'm sure there are plenty of games over his tenure which would leave impartial viewers impressed with what they saw.
Both you and OB1 are better than cheap jibes, using an isolated game to push your argument doesn't wash.

The fact that they're both playing for a place in the semis of the highest level tournament in club football, help convince you at all?

Convince me that Malaga have a better manager than us? No, not one tiny bit.
If Mancini was to leave for whatever reason then I'd welcome Klopp - he would be behind my choice of Mourinho but I think he would do a good job.
By the way, for all the pretty, fast flowing football that you're getting giddy about, neither team have scored yet I saw us only a few days ago score a couple of fantastic well worked goals which required all the attributes that you seem to think we don't have.

......against, erm, Newcastle

 

[grim up north]

The fact that they're both playing for a place in the semis of the highest level tournament in club football, help convince you at all?

Convince me that Malaga have a better manager than us? No, not one tiny bit.
If Mancini was to leave for whatever reason then I'd welcome Klopp - he would be behind my choice of Mourinho but I think he would do a good job.
By the way, for all the pretty, fast flowing football that you're getting giddy about, neither team have scored yet I saw us only a few days ago score a couple of fantastic well worked goals which required all the attributes that you seem to think we don't have.

......against, erm, Newcastle

.......some would argue they have had a better season than us in Europe nd in that case Pardew could in contention

 

[117 M34]

I think it is clear that the academy is going to be the key to our future success and the fact we have brought in Txiki who has worked with arguably the best academy in the world speaks volumes to who is in charge.
You do not invest 100+ million on a world class academy complex and bring in a man with the track record Txiki has as a DoF and not give him full control.

Of the Academy yes. The rest of football affairs. No. Not until he has proven himself.

Its obvious that it is up to Txiki if Mancini stays or goes and its easy to see why some folk want him gone and some want him to stay.

To you maybe. Having previously sub-contracted work from Etisalat I can say with a fair degree of accuracy that he won't get a say in dismissing Mancini - not until he has proven himself at the Accademy.

You can look at Mancini in two ways you can say he is a very poor man manager who fails to get the most out of his squad. You can also add that he is not very good in the UCL, has a habit of playing out club affairs in the media, couldn't manage Balotelli who he invested a lot of time and money on and has managed City and Inter both at fortunate times.
- or -
You can say Mancini has a very strict but SUCCESSFUL man management style and has won trophies where ever he has been. You could point out that Wenger and Fergies record is not the best in Europe when considering how many times they have been in the UCL. You can say that Mancini is a safe bet domestically and that he turned Mario into a 20 million plus striker.

True. It depends on whether your an outer or an inner.

IMO I think the only man who is going to cost Mancini his job is himself. He needs to accept that this club has moved on since he started here. There is no more Garry Cook trying to buy which ever top class player is available. There is no more Marwood in charge of transfers who he can blame when he does not get his own way.

Correct. City have to improve of the next two years for Mancini to get past year 3 where there is probably a break clause.

Mancini has been a big part of our success so far and there in no doubt about that however the way we have acquired our success is unsustainable and the way our club is now run has changed and unless Mancini adapts to this then he will be out of a job.
To get to where we want to be we need everyone from top to bottom working in the same direction and unless this happens our progress will be hindered.

Very true. But that is Txiki's job to get the Academy working properly. NOT Mancini.

I do hope this was all a WUM