Mancini

[Didsbury Dave]

BlueAnorak, you do realise don't you that Txiki Begiristain is Director of Football, not Head of the Academy (currently Mark Allen)? Begiristain's reach will go far beyond the academy.

Doesn't Mr Marwood as Managing Director of the City Football Academy have overall responsibility within his remit?

Yes he does. And i think he reports to soriano rather than begiristain, although I'm not sure about that.

 

[sir baconface]

BlueAnorak, you do realise don't you that Txiki Begiristain is Director of Football, not Head of the Academy (currently Mark Allen)? Begiristain's reach will go far beyond the academy.

Doesn't Mr Marwood as Managing Director of the City Football Academy have overall responsibility within his remit?

I think so but Marwood is lower down the food chain and therefore takes direction from Txiki.

 

[Phil1]

......against, erm, Newcastle

Yes, against Newcastle. If you wish to infer that they're some kind of conference side who would get turned over by Scunthorpe then I'll leave you to it.
I can accept that Mancini isn't the best manager about, I can't accept somebody denigrating him on the back of a great performance just so you can score points on a forum.

I despair. You mentioned Newcastle, not me, so how can I be accused of denigrating Mancini on the back of a great performance?! And to score points on a forum?! Honestly, I could give a crap!
But just for the avoidance of doubt, and to prevent you climbing aboard the self righteous Express again, I thought we played some great stuff against Newcastle, a) because we're a good side, and b) cos, 3 points above the drop zone, Newcastle ain't.
What this thread is about is whether Mancini is too limited tactically and in terms of his man management, to have us trade blows with decent European teams. I still say his record with both Inter and City in the Chimps League, leads me to believe that he isn't. You clearly differ

I mentioned a couple of recent examples of us doing the things that you say tonight's game was full of, nothing more nothing less - you then posted in a way that led me to believe you thought it didn't really count as it was only Newcastle.
There's nothing self righteous about it, just an alternative view to the one you were putting across.
Your last paragraph I agree with, we clearly differ. :-)

 

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[Marvin]

There's a few "name me a manager better than Mancini" merchants on here, who'd do well to watch and learn, that's for sure

Be serious! You watch a good game, and it's an advert against Mancini?

How can you discuss anything seriously if this is the kind of mentality involved.

As for Joaquin he's been around for ages and no longer plays for Spain. His best days are very much behind him

No, it's not an advert against Mancini. Not for the first time you are responding to what you wish I'd written, in order to promote your own argument, rather than what I actually did write. And just to help you on that score, for the benefit of those, including yourself, who have spent the last 600 pages shrieking for the "outers" to provide alternatives to Mancini, I suggested you could do worse than watch the two excellently managed teams doing battle tonight in the most prestigious club tournament in the world........which incidentally we managed 0 wins in 6 games in, with a squad costing the better part of £350m.
As to Joaquin, I am fully aware of who and what he is. I simply said he was having a good game. Again, specs on, learn to read

You make an error, you admit it or move on. Don't come back and try and hide behind bluster. To paraphrase you "Joaquin is a potential cheaper alternative to Cavani. A good game of football should make supporters of Mancini open their eyes." As if City have not played some of the best football any of us have seen in our lifetime!

 

[Bluemoon115]

As if City have not played some of the best football any of us have seen in our lifetime!

Because there's been great competition for that in the last few years?

Just because we're better than we were, doesn't mean we're as good as we could be.

 

[dancity19]

Be serious! You watch a good game, and it's an advert against Mancini?

How can you discuss anything seriously if this is the kind of mentality involved.

As for Joaquin he's been around for ages and no longer plays for Spain. His best days are very much behind him

No, it's not an advert against Mancini. Not for the first time you are responding to what you wish I'd written, in order to promote your own argument, rather than what I actually did write. And just to help you on that score, for the benefit of those, including yourself, who have spent the last 600 pages shrieking for the "outers" to provide alternatives to Mancini, I suggested you could do worse than watch the two excellently managed teams doing battle tonight in the most prestigious club tournament in the world........which incidentally we managed 0 wins in 6 games in, with a squad costing the better part of £350m.
As to Joaquin, I am fully aware of who and what he is. I simply said he was having a good game. Again, specs on, learn to read

You make an error, you admit it or move on. Don't come back and try and hide behind bluster. To paraphrase you "Joaquin is a potential cheaper alternative to Cavani. A good game of football should make supporters of Mancini open their eyes." As if City have not played some of the best football any of us have seen in our lifetime!

And a more accurate paraphrase of what he said might be: "Isco looks good, as does Joaquin. ....Lewandowski would make a decent cheap alternative to Cavani."<br /><br />-- Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:47 pm --<br /><br />

As if City have not played some of the best football any of us have seen in our lifetime!

Because there's been great competition for that in the last few years?

Just because we're better than we were, doesn't mean we're as good as we could be.

To be fair, I think there have been occasions in the last 2 years where we have played some phenomenal football, and maybe reached that peak. My complaint is that it has been too few and far between, and we haven't reached anywhere near that level all season really.

 

[Marvin]

yes OK, I mis-read the point about Joaquin. I have to concede that. Apologies Exeter Blue. I am the clown not you! Should have re-read your post after you told me too.

But not having the general comment about a good game of football should open the eyes of "Mancini" fans though when last season, and at times this season we've played as good a brand of football as the English game has seen, and I include Arsenal in that.

 

[BobKowalski]

So to reiterate my earlier point. No one is entirely sure who reports to who or even it seems what their remit is or where Txiki or Mancini fit into the management structure or whether Txiki has the authority to fire Mancini or not. Nice to see we are debating with all the facts to hand. And yes that does include me :)

And in other news given I was urged to see how well other teams play compared to ourselves...Dortmund were good but couldn't finish for toffee - where have I seen that before - and Malaga were ok(ish) but seemed to lose their way in the second half and it all got a bit disjointed. Bayern were excellent and Juve were...timid and very disappointing.

Heynckes in. Shame he's 104 and about to jack it in...but flavour of the month is so the way forward when picking your next coach

 

[andyhinch]

No, it's not an advert against Mancini. Not for the first time you are responding to what you wish I'd written, in order to promote your own argument, rather than what I actually did write. And just to help you on that score, for the benefit of those, including yourself, who have spent the last 600 pages shrieking for the "outers" to provide alternatives to Mancini, I suggested you could do worse than watch the two excellently managed teams doing battle tonight in the most prestigious club tournament in the world........which incidentally we managed 0 wins in 6 games in, with a squad costing the better part of £350m.
As to Joaquin, I am fully aware of who and what he is. I simply said he was having a good game. Again, specs on, learn to read

You make an error, you admit it or move on. Don't come back and try and hide behind bluster. To paraphrase you "Joaquin is a potential cheaper alternative to Cavani. A good game of football should make supporters of Mancini open their eyes." As if City have not played some of the best football any of us have seen in our lifetime!

And a more accurate paraphrase of what he said might be: "Isco looks good, as does Joaquin. ....Lewandowski would make a decent cheap alternative to Cavani."

-- Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:47 pm --

As if City have not played some of the best football any of us have seen in our lifetime!

Because there's been great competition for that in the last few years?

Just because we're better than we were, doesn't mean we're as good as we could be.

To be fair, I think there have been occasions in the last 2 years where we have played some phenomenal football, and maybe reached that peak. My complaint is that it has been too few and far between, and we haven't reached anywhere near that level all season really.

I want another, yes I think post coupled, with your only talking for yourself with an I know what you don't is chaser, love the self centred bullshit.