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Pam said:
Get to fuck. FA Cup in his first full season of English football. Title in his second. He has had a much better start than Bacon ever did domestically speaking and it took the rashered one years to suss the CL.


Oh oh the voice of the people has spoken - should be fun ;)
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
If the choice is De Boer or Pellegrini I'd rather wait a year, see how Mancini does and if he fails to deliver then go for a Van Gaal or Klopp when they're perhaps a bit more likely to move.

I just think we're not established enough to afford a less proven manager the reigns.

The German league is now well on the up so can't see why German players or manager would come here.

The thing with Mou, AVB, Wenger and now the likes of Mancini and Ancelotti is that their own domestic leagues don't match the PL.

As for de Boer, hasn't Mclaren won the Dutch league?
 
Rammy Blue said:
de Boer sounds like he'd be a decent option should the position become vacant.

I like what I read on that article and I also think that if you are going to appoint a younger guy then someone with a quality playing career like Frank will ensure he's capable of gaining the respect of a top class playing staff.

I suppose you'd put him in comparison with Laudrup, who has had a longer managerial career and has a year of Prem under his belt.

Should we choose to go down the older route then I certainly wouldn't have any issues with Pellegrini, he always sets his teams up well and they play decent stuff.

I think people need to get their heads around the fact that should we dispense with Bob's services then the chances are that Ferran and Txiki are going to appoint a guy who hasn't got a glittering trophy haul - as they are the kind of guys who generally won't want to work under the DoF model.

The problem comes when the new man, whoever gets the job, doesn't bring INSTANT success. Will the owners put up with this? Will our fans put up with it, especially if the rags are mopping up all the pots and are rubbing our noses in it? As I write,we are somewhere like 628 pages into this thread, but this will be dwarfed if it all goes wrong.
 
Pam said:
Get to fuck. FA Cup in his first full season of English football. Title in his second. He has had a much better start than Bacon ever did domestically speaking and it took the rashered one years to suss the CL.
Mancini's had years in Europe and looks as lost as ever.

Also starting a post with "Get to fuck" makes your opinion far more valid, you should do that more often.
 
robbieh said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
If the choice is De Boer or Pellegrini I'd rather wait a year, see how Mancini does and if he fails to deliver then go for a Van Gaal or Klopp when they're perhaps a bit more likely to move.

I just think we're not established enough to afford a less proven manager the reigns.

The German league is now well on the up so can't see why German players or manager would come here.

The thing with Mou, AVB, Wenger and now the likes of Mancini and Ancelotti is that their own domestic leagues don't match the PL.

As for de Boer, hasn't Mclaren won the Dutch league?

So's Van Gaal, point being? You can only judge him on the tools he has and this season he did the double on us and last season he won at OT so he has credibility and Ajax sell everything that's shows it can kick a ball.

That being said I think I'd want to see more of him before giving him such a big and difficult job.
 
I'm no cynic said:
Rammy Blue said:
de Boer sounds like he'd be a decent option should the position become vacant.

I like what I read on that article and I also think that if you are going to appoint a younger guy then someone with a quality playing career like Frank will ensure he's capable of gaining the respect of a top class playing staff.

I suppose you'd put him in comparison with Laudrup, who has had a longer managerial career and has a year of Prem under his belt.

Should we choose to go down the older route then I certainly wouldn't have any issues with Pellegrini, he always sets his teams up well and they play decent stuff.

I think people need to get their heads around the fact that should we dispense with Bob's services then the chances are that Ferran and Txiki are going to appoint a guy who hasn't got a glittering trophy haul - as they are the kind of guys who generally won't want to work under the DoF model.

The problem comes when the new man, whoever gets the job, doesn't bring INSTANT success. Will the owners put up with this? Will our fans put up with it, especially if the rags are mopping up all the pots and are rubbing our noses in it? As I write,we are somewhere like 628 pages into this thread, but this will be dwarfed if it all goes wrong.

Not many can guarantee instant success though. Bear in mind we could quite feasibly end this season potless. The re-shaping of our squad is going to start in earnest this summer, however we will still have our core of top quality.

I suppose that personally I see this summer being the ideal time to make the fresh start. I just don't see Bob fitting the mould of managing under a DoF long term plus I feel he's too stubborn to make the kind of changes to playing style that we are going to require.
 
I'm no cynic said:
Rammy Blue said:
de Boer sounds like he'd be a decent option should the position become vacant.

I like what I read on that article and I also think that if you are going to appoint a younger guy then someone with a quality playing career like Frank will ensure he's capable of gaining the respect of a top class playing staff.

I suppose you'd put him in comparison with Laudrup, who has had a longer managerial career and has a year of Prem under his belt.

Should we choose to go down the older route then I certainly wouldn't have any issues with Pellegrini, he always sets his teams up well and they play decent stuff.

I think people need to get their heads around the fact that should we dispense with Bob's services then the chances are that Ferran and Txiki are going to appoint a guy who hasn't got a glittering trophy haul - as they are the kind of guys who generally won't want to work under the DoF model.

The problem comes when the new man, whoever gets the job, doesn't bring INSTANT success. Will the owners put up with this? Will our fans put up with it, especially if the rags are mopping up all the pots and are rubbing our noses in it? As I write,we are somewhere like 628 pages into this thread, but this will be dwarfed if it all goes wrong.

It could also go wrong if we stick though, that's why they get paid top dollar to make such decisions
 
Rammy Blue said:
de Boer sounds like he'd be a decent option should the position become vacant.

I like what I read on that article and I also think that if you are going to appoint a younger guy then someone with a quality playing career like Frank will ensure he's capable of gaining the respect of a top class playing staff.

I suppose you'd put him in comparison with Laudrup, who has had a longer managerial career and has a year of Prem under his belt.

Should we choose to go down the older route then I certainly wouldn't have any issues with Pellegrini, he always sets his teams up well and they play decent stuff.

I think people need to get their heads around the fact that should we dispense with Bob's services then the chances are that Ferran and Txiki are going to appoint a guy who hasn't got a glittering trophy haul - as they are the kind of guys who generally won't want to work under the DoF model.

On this Mancini debate, I started from to point that I wanted Pep, Klopp or Mourinho and would only sack Mancini for one of those. I'm still nervous about the idea of getting rid of Bobby for a lesser or unproven light but my concerns over leaving Bobby in place have grown.

FWIT, my gut instinct is that de Boer would be very successful if he came to City. Wouldn't be at all surprised to see him at Barca before too long, if we don't go for him.
 
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