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Pablo1 said:
BillyShears said:
Going back to Mancini and his potential impending departure. It's going to take some doing for the owners and powers that be to sack a manager who retains so much blind faith support amongst our supporters. Hell of a statement from them.

On the revisionist nature of Bluemoon - it seems that people have decided that wanting Mancini out is the same as saying he's definitely going.

It's not blind faith though is it Billy. Mancini has done enough to warrant the support he has from the majority of City fans - his end results so far have justified the means.
Many of us accept that all is not rosey in the garden and there are aspects of his management that need improving, but we also accept that he's had his successes, and so far they outnumber the failures.
It all comes down to your own interpretation of what constitutes success. I've no doubts that while there are still many blues who would be content with a few years of domestic domination and not worry about the CL, our owners would very much not - the way the game has developed means that the CL is now the be all and end all and my own view is if Mancini is here next season and fails to improve on our last two outings he is gone.
This doesn't make me a raving lunatic who knows nothing about the game - just a blue who is so far content with what our great club is becoming and trusts the new owners to do what's right when the time comes.


I'm with you mate.
 
A cri de coeur to the Mods.

Please don't split this thread.

It is testimony to all that is brilliant, absurd, hilarious and downright stupid on Bluemoon and its ever increasing number of posts, many going round in ever decreasing circles, bear witness to why I continue to love this place.
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
NipHolmes said:
Danielmanc said:
As someone else said...he has posted so many ambiguous music videos over the years that he is sure to get one right sooner or later and claim the superstar ITK status that he so desperately craves. He's the Mystic Meg of Bluemoon although she probably got many more predictions right.

We went for players but couldn't sell whcih prevented us buying. What's so hard to get.

He called the Redknapp exit and he called Balotelli not long back before people were on the same path. Zin even made money from it.

This thread is about Mancini, not posters and we should keep on task.

Mancini should go. He's not getting the best out the team and that's not acceptable.

Actually pal, Mario stuff was my own, that was quite obvious!

As for our kids credibility who gives a fuck, he certainly doesn't, do people actually think he loses any sleep if some info which was passed to him in good faith doesn't materialise????
Oh woah is tolm bla bla fucking bla - the issue i take is those who quite clearly (a) believe him to make up stuff for status and (b) direct insults without knowing the guy......... As i've stated on many many occasions, if someone wants to get personal then have the decency to do it 'in person' - Tolms a shitbag so i'm free!!!!!
Grow up!
 
get the blowtorch said:
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
NipHolmes said:
We went for players but couldn't sell whcih prevented us buying. What's so hard to get.

He called the Redknapp exit and he called Balotelli not long back before people were on the same path. Zin even made money from it.

This thread is about Mancini, not posters and we should keep on task.

Mancini should go. He's not getting the best out the team and that's not acceptable.

Actually pal, Mario stuff was my own, that was quite obvious!

As for our kids credibility who gives a fuck, he certainly doesn't, do people actually think he loses any sleep if some info which was passed to him in good faith doesn't materialise????
Oh woah is tolm bla bla fucking bla - the issue i take is those who quite clearly (a) believe him to make up stuff for status and (b) direct insults without knowing the guy......... As i've stated on many many occasions, if someone wants to get personal then have the decency to do it 'in person' - Tolms a shitbag so i'm free!!!!!
Shiver me timbers, keyboard warrior.

One way to find out chief???????
 
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jollylescott said:
Skashion said:
Seosa said:
Tolm's record is a solid 7/10. He's got stuff wrong, but he gets a lot right.
Glad to see someone's keeping the books on him.
Speaking of which I just glanced at Oddschecker. It's remarkable. They are laying odds on who will be the first poster on page 1000 of the Mancini thread! Here is the early market:

6/4 Didsy Dave or Billy (equal favourites). Both have the form on the board. Bred to stay a long distance. Can handle all conditions.

2/1 NipHolmes. Known for his tenacity in a tight finish. Never gives up. Big hearted but lacks experience. One to watch over time.

7/2 Seosa. Known for coming with a late run near the finishing line. A wilful colt who needs restraint on occasions. Perhaps needs gelding.

4/1 Skashion. Sets a steady pace. Can stay all day if ridden the right way.

9/2 Strongbowaholic. Has a mind of his own. Tends to veer off the track under pressure. Needs restraint on occasion.

6/1 Waspish. Has youth on his side. Can maintain the pace. Needs to be well lubricated to get the best out of him.

8/1 Pam. This mare is strong of mind and has been known to throw the odd lightweight jockey. Regarded as a dark horse.

20/1 David Cameron. Known rather as a middle of the pack type. When hit with the whip tends to go slower. Not fancied at this stage.

66/1 Bacon Face. Turns up at the wrong track all the time. Has horsey dementia. No hope.

100/1 the rest. Take your pick.

Funny you should mention oddcheceker
Mancini has firmed up in the betting and gone even more odds on to be our gaffer next season
Theres some good money to be made if his days are numbered :)
 
whicko said:
FantasyIreland said:
Lol Whicko,a change of 'heart'??
No just being sensible you idiot!

Come on mate, you can't go around claiming to be sensible whilst in the same breath calling somebody an idiot... Oh, FantasyIsland was it, as you were.


:-)
 
whicko said:
FantasyIreland said:
Lol Whicko,a change of 'heart'??
No just being sensible you idiot!

Ahhh,right,thanks.....

Then try keeping it up.<br /><br />-- 03 Apr 2013 15:00 --<br /><br />
Pablo1 said:
whicko said:
FantasyIreland said:
Lol Whicko,a change of 'heart'??
No just being sensible you idiot!

Come on mate, you can't go around claiming to be sensible whilst in the same breath calling somebody an idiot... Oh, FantasyIsland was it, as you were.


:-)

Thats Ireland darling......
 
FantasyIreland said:
whicko said:
FantasyIreland said:
Lol Whicko,a change of 'heart'??
No just being sensible you idiot!

Ahhh,right,thanks.....

Then try keeping it up.

-- 03 Apr 2013 15:00 --

Pablo1 said:
whicko said:
No just being sensible you idiot!

Come on mate, you can't go around claiming to be sensible whilst in the same breath calling somebody an idiot... Oh, FantasyIsland was it, as you were.


:-)

Thats Ireland darling......

Won't happen again sweet cheeks.
 
Stop whinging and shit stirring about our greatest manager in a generation.
 
The cookie monster said:
jollylescott said:
Skashion said:
Glad to see someone's keeping the books on him.
Speaking of which I just glanced at Oddschecker. It's remarkable. They are laying odds on who will be the first poster on page 1000 of the Mancini thread! Here is the early market:

6/4 Didsy Dave or Billy (equal favourites). Both have the form on the board. Bred to stay a long distance. Can handle all conditions.

2/1 NipHolmes. Known for his tenacity in a tight finish. Never gives up. Big hearted but lacks experience. One to watch over time.

7/2 Seosa. Known for coming with a late run near the finishing line. A wilful colt who needs restraint on occasions. Perhaps needs gelding.

4/1 Skashion. Sets a steady pace. Can stay all day if ridden the right way.

9/2 Strongbowaholic. Has a mind of his own. Tends to veer off the track under pressure. Needs restraint on occasion.

6/1 Waspish. Has youth on his side. Can maintain the pace. Needs to be well lubricated to get the best out of him.

8/1 Pam. This mare is strong of mind and has been known to throw the odd lightweight jockey. Regarded as a dark horse.

20/1 David Cameron. Known rather as a middle of the pack type. When hit with the whip tends to go slower. Not fancied at this stage.

66/1 Bacon Face. Turns up at the wrong track all the time. Has horsey dementia. No hope.

100/1 the rest. Take your pick.

Funny you should mention oddcheceker
Mancini has firmed up in the betting and gone even more odds on to be our gaffer next season
Theres some good money to be made if his days are numbered :)

In all seriousness my old dad used to say to me that the bookies got better information than anyone else. If you wanted to know who will win the next general election look at the odds. Same with football managers. At the moment Mancini is odds on to be manager the first day of the season. Despite the doomsday prophecies, I reckon the bookies know best. They put their money where their mouths are.
 
bobmcfc said:
Pam said:
Stop whinging and shit stirring about our greatest manager in a generation.
I think you need to start clanging their heads together Pam

This is fast becoming the case. I have already banged the heads of Bobby and Vinny together and this approach will eventually do the trick.
 
Pam said:
Stop whinging and shit stirring about our greatest manager in a generation.

Not hard to be our best manager for a while is it. It's like Usain Bolt racing a fucking turtle.

Money has helped the cause and we've had some truly wank managers like Pearce here.

Compare him to the managers of Europes tops teams, that's a fairer debate and comparison topic. After all we are big City not lickle.
 
Whether you want him in or out comes down to where you personally set your expectations and how closely you follow and buy in to the Media. But ultimately it's down the Chairman who thus far has taken a very measured approach in building the club.

According to the press, with all of the money we have spent (like no other team spends money(!)), we should win every match and collect every cup. When we inevitably fall short due to the team being made up of human beings, the press, the tv media and a number of fans call for the manager's head and whip themselves up into a frenzy saying it's not acceptable for the owners and Mancini will be gone in the summer (like they know).

If we were to take a more measured look then the money we have spent has brought us closer to an even footing as the rest of the top teams in the Prem and Europe, however we don't yet have the aura of a superpower team and the lesser teams don't yet play with the same fear factor that they do when visiting Old Toilet (a point i think is also relevant to referees too).

My personal point of view is that with Mancini we have won the FA Cup, won the Premier League (does it get any better than last season?!) and won the Community Shield. We are in the semi of the FA Cup and have a good chance of winning that too this season. The scum have had an unusually successful league campaign (i think due to the fear factor that their manager and team imposes on opponents) and we are trailing them in second place. Mancini will have learnt a lot from this season and i can only see improvement next year.

When you factor in the frustration in the transfer market in the summer, how we ended up becoming weaker and taking a punt on the likes of Rodwell and Garcia rather than more established first team players, how we lost out on van Pussy and how the team had to cope with Balotelli and his wandering mind, Dzeko and his lack of quality and consistency, with Aguero and his injury and marital problems and Tevez and his finishing problems. When you also accept that we could barely have had a more challenging Champion's League qualifying group then how you can lay the blame squarely on the manager being the root cause of us not winning the league, especially when you factor in circumstance then i think that your expectations are set too high.

Nobody really knows what Sheikh Mansour really thinks and how adaptable he actually is. He may have set out to retain the league at the start of the season, he may not, but if we do win the FA Cup and finish runners up in the league then i would be surprised if they will sack a manager who was not supported in the transfer market and who was given a 5 year contract last summer.
As we've heard so often, we are in the early stages of a project for world domination - if this is the case, then why sack a manager for not achieving the Media's short term targets?
 
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