Mancini

[JoeMercer'sWay]

If the choice is De Boer or Pellegrini I'd rather wait a year, see how Mancini does and if he fails to deliver then go for a Van Gaal or Klopp when they're perhaps a bit more likely to move.

I just think we're not established enough to afford a less proven manager the reigns.

 

[crystal_mais]

Get to fuck. FA Cup in his first full season of English football. Title in his second. He has had a much better start than Bacon ever did domestically speaking and it took the rashered one years to suss the CL.

Oh oh the voice of the people has spoken - should be fun ;)

 

[robbieh]

If the choice is De Boer or Pellegrini I'd rather wait a year, see how Mancini does and if he fails to deliver then go for a Van Gaal or Klopp when they're perhaps a bit more likely to move.

I just think we're not established enough to afford a less proven manager the reigns.

The German league is now well on the up so can't see why German players or manager would come here.

The thing with Mou, AVB, Wenger and now the likes of Mancini and Ancelotti is that their own domestic leagues don't match the PL.

As for de Boer, hasn't Mclaren won the Dutch league?

 

[I'm no cynic but...]

de Boer sounds like he'd be a decent option should the position become vacant.

I like what I read on that article and I also think that if you are going to appoint a younger guy then someone with a quality playing career like Frank will ensure he's capable of gaining the respect of a top class playing staff.

I suppose you'd put him in comparison with Laudrup, who has had a longer managerial career and has a year of Prem under his belt.

Should we choose to go down the older route then I certainly wouldn't have any issues with Pellegrini, he always sets his teams up well and they play decent stuff.

I think people need to get their heads around the fact that should we dispense with Bob's services then the chances are that Ferran and Txiki are going to appoint a guy who hasn't got a glittering trophy haul - as they are the kind of guys who generally won't want to work under the DoF model.

The problem comes when the new man, whoever gets the job, doesn't bring INSTANT success. Will the owners put up with this? Will our fans put up with it, especially if the rags are mopping up all the pots and are rubbing our noses in it? As I write,we are somewhere like 628 pages into this thread, but this will be dwarfed if it all goes wrong.

 

[Bluemoon115]

Get to fuck. FA Cup in his first full season of English football. Title in his second. He has had a much better start than Bacon ever did domestically speaking and it took the rashered one years to suss the CL.

Mancini's had years in Europe and looks as lost as ever.

Also starting a post with "Get to fuck" makes your opinion far more valid, you should do that more often.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

If the choice is De Boer or Pellegrini I'd rather wait a year, see how Mancini does and if he fails to deliver then go for a Van Gaal or Klopp when they're perhaps a bit more likely to move.

I just think we're not established enough to afford a less proven manager the reigns.

The German league is now well on the up so can't see why German players or manager would come here.

The thing with Mou, AVB, Wenger and now the likes of Mancini and Ancelotti is that their own domestic leagues don't match the PL.

As for de Boer, hasn't Mclaren won the Dutch league?

So's Van Gaal, point being? You can only judge him on the tools he has and this season he did the double on us and last season he won at OT so he has credibility and Ajax sell everything that's shows it can kick a ball.

That being said I think I'd want to see more of him before giving him such a big and difficult job.

 

[Rammy Blue]

de Boer sounds like he'd be a decent option should the position become vacant.

I like what I read on that article and I also think that if you are going to appoint a younger guy then someone with a quality playing career like Frank will ensure he's capable of gaining the respect of a top class playing staff.

I suppose you'd put him in comparison with Laudrup, who has had a longer managerial career and has a year of Prem under his belt.

Should we choose to go down the older route then I certainly wouldn't have any issues with Pellegrini, he always sets his teams up well and they play decent stuff.

I think people need to get their heads around the fact that should we dispense with Bob's services then the chances are that Ferran and Txiki are going to appoint a guy who hasn't got a glittering trophy haul - as they are the kind of guys who generally won't want to work under the DoF model.

The problem comes when the new man, whoever gets the job, doesn't bring INSTANT success. Will the owners put up with this? Will our fans put up with it, especially if the rags are mopping up all the pots and are rubbing our noses in it? As I write,we are somewhere like 628 pages into this thread, but this will be dwarfed if it all goes wrong.

Not many can guarantee instant success though. Bear in mind we could quite feasibly end this season potless. The re-shaping of our squad is going to start in earnest this summer, however we will still have our core of top quality.

I suppose that personally I see this summer being the ideal time to make the fresh start. I just don't see Bob fitting the mould of managing under a DoF long term plus I feel he's too stubborn to make the kind of changes to playing style that we are going to require.

 

[Danamy]

de Boer sounds like he'd be a decent option should the position become vacant.

I like what I read on that article and I also think that if you are going to appoint a younger guy then someone with a quality playing career like Frank will ensure he's capable of gaining the respect of a top class playing staff.

I suppose you'd put him in comparison with Laudrup, who has had a longer managerial career and has a year of Prem under his belt.

Should we choose to go down the older route then I certainly wouldn't have any issues with Pellegrini, he always sets his teams up well and they play decent stuff.

I think people need to get their heads around the fact that should we dispense with Bob's services then the chances are that Ferran and Txiki are going to appoint a guy who hasn't got a glittering trophy haul - as they are the kind of guys who generally won't want to work under the DoF model.

The problem comes when the new man, whoever gets the job, doesn't bring INSTANT success. Will the owners put up with this? Will our fans put up with it, especially if the rags are mopping up all the pots and are rubbing our noses in it? As I write,we are somewhere like 628 pages into this thread, but this will be dwarfed if it all goes wrong.

It could also go wrong if we stick though, that's why they get paid top dollar to make such decisions

 

[OB1]

de Boer sounds like he'd be a decent option should the position become vacant.

I like what I read on that article and I also think that if you are going to appoint a younger guy then someone with a quality playing career like Frank will ensure he's capable of gaining the respect of a top class playing staff.

I suppose you'd put him in comparison with Laudrup, who has had a longer managerial career and has a year of Prem under his belt.

Should we choose to go down the older route then I certainly wouldn't have any issues with Pellegrini, he always sets his teams up well and they play decent stuff.

I think people need to get their heads around the fact that should we dispense with Bob's services then the chances are that Ferran and Txiki are going to appoint a guy who hasn't got a glittering trophy haul - as they are the kind of guys who generally won't want to work under the DoF model.

On this Mancini debate, I started from to point that I wanted Pep, Klopp or Mourinho and would only sack Mancini for one of those. I'm still nervous about the idea of getting rid of Bobby for a lesser or unproven light but my concerns over leaving Bobby in place have grown.

FWIT, my gut instinct is that de Boer would be very successful if he came to City. Wouldn't be at all surprised to see him at Barca before too long, if we don't go for him.

 

[moomba]

he did the double on us

No he didn't.

 

[BobKowalski]

de Boer sounds like he'd be a decent option should the position become vacant.

I like what I read on that article and I also think that if you are going to appoint a younger guy then someone with a quality playing career like Frank will ensure he's capable of gaining the respect of a top class playing staff.

I suppose you'd put him in comparison with Laudrup, who has had a longer managerial career and has a year of Prem under his belt.

Should we choose to go down the older route then I certainly wouldn't have any issues with Pellegrini, he always sets his teams up well and they play decent stuff.

I think people need to get their heads around the fact that should we dispense with Bob's services then the chances are that Ferran and Txiki are going to appoint a guy who hasn't got a glittering trophy haul - as they are the kind of guys who generally won't want to work under the DoF model.

Exactly. Which is why there is a good chance Mancini will go as he will have the same issues. Despite my wish for Mancini to stay I can accept we are entering a different phase, its one that the owners are committed to and I am pretty excited about it.

I am not however buying that Pellegrini or De Boer is the second coming from people who a month ago would have laughed it off the forum. They may be an ideal fit going forward but there is no getting away from the fact that they are a step below a Jose or even a Roberto.

I can accept who they are and if one gets the gig at City then so be it and trust Ferran and Txiki have not dropped a bollock

 

[Rammy Blue]

de Boer sounds like he'd be a decent option should the position become vacant.

I like what I read on that article and I also think that if you are going to appoint a younger guy then someone with a quality playing career like Frank will ensure he's capable of gaining the respect of a top class playing staff.

I suppose you'd put him in comparison with Laudrup, who has had a longer managerial career and has a year of Prem under his belt.

Should we choose to go down the older route then I certainly wouldn't have any issues with Pellegrini, he always sets his teams up well and they play decent stuff.

I think people need to get their heads around the fact that should we dispense with Bob's services then the chances are that Ferran and Txiki are going to appoint a guy who hasn't got a glittering trophy haul - as they are the kind of guys who generally won't want to work under the DoF model.

On this Mancini debate, I started from to point that I wanted Pep, Klopp or Mourinho and would only sack Mancini for one of those. I'm still nervous about the idea of getting rid of Bobby for a lesser or unproven light but my concerns over leaving Bobby in place have grown.

FWIT, my gut instinct is that de Boer would be very successful if he came to City. Wouldn't be at all surprised to see him at Barca before too long, if we don't go for him.

I'm in same boat mate, it was always Jose for me and then Pep or Klopp. Jose and Pep would probably want too much control, Klopp though would still be worth an approach - I think most discount him due to his comments about staying at Dortmund but until he's officially contacted then who knows.

I'm confident we won't be short of decent applicants should the position become vacant.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

In addition Germans do quite well at our club.

 

[Danamy]

In addition Germans do quite well at our club.

I'll raise you:

 

[Anonymous]

de Boer sounds like he'd be a decent option should the position become vacant.

I like what I read on that article and I also think that if you are going to appoint a younger guy then someone with a quality playing career like Frank will ensure he's capable of gaining the respect of a top class playing staff.

I suppose you'd put him in comparison with Laudrup, who has had a longer managerial career and has a year of Prem under his belt.

Should we choose to go down the older route then I certainly wouldn't have any issues with Pellegrini, he always sets his teams up well and they play decent stuff.

I think people need to get their heads around the fact that should we dispense with Bob's services then the chances are that Ferran and Txiki are going to appoint a guy who hasn't got a glittering trophy haul - as they are the kind of guys who generally won't want to work under the DoF model.

On this Mancini debate, I started from to point that I wanted Pep, Klopp or Mourinho and would only sack Mancini for one of those. I'm still nervous about the idea of getting rid of Bobby for a lesser or unproven light but my concerns over leaving Bobby in place have grown.

FWIT, my gut instinct is that de Boer would be very successful if he came to City. Wouldn't be at all surprised to see him at Barca before too long, if we don't go for him.

I'm in same boat mate, it was always Jose for me and then Pep or Klopp. Jose and Pep would probably want too much control, Klopp though would still be worth an approach - I think most discount him due to his comments about staying at Dortmund but until he's officially contacted then who knows.

I'm confident we won't be short of decent applicants should the position become vacant.

We'll see - but my gut feeling since Txiki was first mooted as DoF has been that the next manager will be more of the profile that Pep was when he got the Barca job than Mourinho. I guess that's why the De Boer/Pellegrini/Laudrup links haven't surprised or bothered me. I can see the method in what might seem a mad decision on the face of it.

In many respects Klopp is the absolute ideal but you're right it'd take something special to extricate him from his Dortmund contract. ie. he'd need to win the CL this season and we'd have to give him one hell of a pitch.

 

[CityForever45]

Replacing Mancini with Pellegrini or De Boer is pure madness.

 

[sam-caddick]

Replacing Mancini with Pellegrini or De Boer is pure madness.

This.

Forza Mancini!

 

[fbloke]

So we have now entered the 'when not if' territory about Mancini then have we?

And its not Pep or Jose but thats OK because a change is as good as a rest, as the saying goes.

And of course the rumours of player unrest and 'him or me' statements being made are trotted out whilst we also see Silva and Yaya sign new contracts even though Mancini is still in post.

Perhaps these world class players have only signed new contracts because they know that Mancini wont be here next year?

That brings to mind Hazard's choice when he signed for 'the European champions' even though they had no confirmed manager. That worked out well didn't it.

At the best guess it would cost City £10m to sack Mancini and then take a chance on a man who has won far less than him. That leaves me feeling less than happy about going out on a limb with someone on a list that doesnt include Klopp, Mourinho, Ancelotti or Guardiola all of whom I can see the draw of.

Is that change really worth making or should some players be asked if they are as committed to City as Silva or Yaya seem to be?

 

[spiny]

Forget Mancini. I would like to see extra new coaching staff brought in. Preferably British or with a City connection. Kidd is a Manc with a City connection but wont be around much longer and Platt is Robertos man. The future is not just youth but continuity passing on the legacy. It is what Fergie is doing at the rags.

Hows about Uwe being offered the EDS job? Dickov a part time role? Both proven. What about other promising coaches, a work experience to give them a start. Dont even have to have played at the top level like Mourinho and Bertie Mee going way back. We need the winning mentality and club values equally passed to the coaching staff because one day Mancini and the Italians will be off.

It is for ADUG to decide who is right for the job of manager and they have a bigger vision than current results.

 

[Davs 19]

In addition Germans do quite well at our club.

I'll raise you:

Class lads. For every Uwe there are the above. Makes me wonder whether the mooted managers of the same nationality may be just as 'effective'. Just a thought.......