Mancini

[Rammy Blue]

I'll hold my hands up, you can look back and quote me, I rate Mourinho as one of the best in Europe and would've loved him to rock up here, as I want the best for City and rate him as the best.

The more you think about it and like you and others have said, he's not going to fit in our mould or our way of thinking in taking the project forward

In my opinion, neither is Mancini

That's exactly the point, imo.

Nothing wrong with wanting the best yet when we think that he may not fit with the ethos then there are howls of derision for us discussing the options that will potentially be the best fit.

 

[Ragnarok]

There is no doubt some have convinced themselves Mancini has gone largely because they want him gone so badly it hurts. Some people have also now convinced themselves that its OK we are not getting a top tier manager because its Txki and he spotted Pep and did I mention they want Mancini gone so badly it hurts? Txiki could unveil Mark Hughes and there would be threads about why it went wrong last time, why it wasn't Hughes fault and why this time it will work. Oh and Mancini will be gone so thats all right then.

There is one aspect that cannot be avoided and that is Mancini wants control and he has to work with Txiki who also wants control and the answer to that will determine Mancini's willingness to continue or Txiki's willingness to allow him to continue.

Now we may find out they are a match made in heaven but personally I have my doubts that they can co-exist and most top tier managers are going have the same problem so stories linking us to the likes of Pellegrini or Koeman or De Boer (who is now the second Pep apparently) do have a logic.

Mind you people doing their best to trash Mancini's record and blow life into Pellegrini's or paint De Boer as the new messiah now that the big names are off the table is funny as fuck.

So if there's logic to the managers being mentioned, what's the issue with debating them?

You've said yourself that the likelihood of Mancini or other "top tier" managers won't be able to co-exist with Txiki, so let's discuss who can?

I seriously find it hard to understand how precious some people get when discussing the issue of the managerial position, it's no different than discussing a said player that may be available to improve the squad.

Let's face it if i said we could sign Messi, someone would say he wouldn't fit in to our system etc.........

There isn't an issue with debating them. We have 600 pages debating them. I like debating them. But it is funny as fuck when people started off banging the drum for Jose as the one man to take us forward and ended up doing a backwards triple somersault with pike to splash down on...Frank De Boer and his 3 years in the Dutch League.

You need a heart of stone not to find it funny.

I think the outers will even start to find positives in Paolo Di Canio or Mick McCarthy if they were somehow linked to the club. This is the "anyone but Mancini" thread not "top replacements for Mancini" thread.

 

[chesterguy]

In the Kingdom of the deaf even the man who shouts loudest is still not heard

The same people are saying the same things to the same people nobody is listening yet everyone is talking

Clearly some people want Mancini out and no matter what anyone says they will not change their point of view. Some people want Mancini in and no matter what anyone says they will not change their point of view

So can we agree to disagree and save bandwidth with this tiresome and boring thread which isnt a debate its just a way of people saying the same thing in different ways

 

[Rammy Blue]

In the Kingdom of the deaf even the man who shouts loudest is still not heard

The same people are saying the same things to the same people nobody is listening yet everyone is talking

Clearly some people want Mancini out and no matter what anyone says they will not change their point of view. Some people want Mancini out and no matter what anyone says they will not change their point of view

So can we agree to disagree and save bandwidth with this tiresome and boring thread which isnt a debate its just a way of people saying the same thing in different ways

Don't. Click. Into. The. Thread. It's. Not. Difficult.

 

[Oohvonkyvonky]

In the Kingdom of the deaf even the man who shouts loudest is still not heard

The same people are saying the same things to the same people nobody is listening yet everyone is talking

Clearly some people want Mancini out and no matter what anyone says they will not change their point of view. Some people want Mancini out and no matter what anyone says they will not change their point of view

So can we agree to disagree and save bandwidth with this tiresome and boring thread which isnt a debate its just a way of people saying the same thing in different ways

Same thing I said on page 600, also previously stated in the last Mancini thread ;)

This thread will never end.

Ever.

 

[Davs 19]

In the Kingdom of the deaf even the man who shouts loudest is still not heard

The same people are saying the same things to the same people nobody is listening yet everyone is talking

Clearly some people want Mancini out and no matter what anyone says they will not change their point of view. Some people want Mancini out and no matter what anyone says they will not change their point of view

So can we agree to disagree and save bandwidth with this tiresome and boring thread which isnt a debate its just a way of people saying the same thing in different ways

Don't. Click. Into. The. Thread. It's. Not. Difficult.

He. Does. Have . A . Point. Though....

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

In the Kingdom of the deaf even the man who shouts loudest is still not heard

The same people are saying the same things to the same people nobody is listening yet everyone is talking

Clearly some people want Mancini out and no matter what anyone says they will not change their point of view. Some people want Mancini out and no matter what anyone says they will not change their point of view

So can we agree to disagree and save bandwidth with this tiresome and boring thread which isnt a debate its just a way of people saying the same thing in different ways

Don't. Click. Into. The. Thread. It's. Not. Difficult.

Sometimes your punctuation is questionable.

 

[Danamy]

So if there's logic to the managers being mentioned, what's the issue with debating them?

You've said yourself that the likelihood of Mancini or other "top tier" managers won't be able to co-exist with Txiki, so let's discuss who can?

I seriously find it hard to understand how precious some people get when discussing the issue of the managerial position, it's no different than discussing a said player that may be available to improve the squad.

Let's face it if i said we could sign Messi, someone would say he wouldn't fit in to our system etc.........

There isn't an issue with debating them. We have 600 pages debating them. I like debating them. But it is funny as fuck when people started off banging the drum for Jose as the one man to take us forward and ended up doing a backwards triple somersault with pike to splash down on...Frank De Boer and his 3 years in the Dutch League.

You need a heart of stone not to find it funny.

I think the outers will even start to find positives in Paolo Di Canio or Mick McCarthy if they were somehow linked to the club. This is the "anyone but Mancini" thread not "top replacements for Mancini" thread.

Thanks for bringing that to the table

 

[Rammy Blue]

In the Kingdom of the deaf even the man who shouts loudest is still not heard

The same people are saying the same things to the same people nobody is listening yet everyone is talking

Clearly some people want Mancini out and no matter what anyone says they will not change their point of view. Some people want Mancini out and no matter what anyone says they will not change their point of view

So can we agree to disagree and save bandwidth with this tiresome and boring thread which isnt a debate its just a way of people saying the same thing in different ways

Don't. Click. Into. The. Thread. It's. Not. Difficult.

He. Does. Have . A . Point. Though....

He doesn't have a point at all. The thread is 600+ pages and the most active thread in this section because it's of paramount importance. Stands to reason that Bob's position is under threat, we've under-performed this season and we have a new structure in place at the top of the club.<br /><br />-- Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:44 pm --<br /><br />

In the Kingdom of the deaf even the man who shouts loudest is still not heard

The same people are saying the same things to the same people nobody is listening yet everyone is talking

Clearly some people want Mancini out and no matter what anyone says they will not change their point of view. Some people want Mancini out and no matter what anyone says they will not change their point of view

So can we agree to disagree and save bandwidth with this tiresome and boring thread which isnt a debate its just a way of people saying the same thing in different ways

Don't. Click. Into. The. Thread. It's. Not. Difficult.

Sometimes your punctuation is questionable.

Got all my capitals correct though.

 

[Danamy]

In the Kingdom of the deaf even the man who shouts loudest is still not heard

The same people are saying the same things to the same people nobody is listening yet everyone is talking

Clearly some people want Mancini out and no matter what anyone says they will not change their point of view. Some people want Mancini out and no matter what anyone says they will not change their point of view

So can we agree to disagree and save bandwidth with this tiresome and boring thread which isnt a debate its just a way of people saying the same thing in different ways

Don't. Click. Into. The. Thread. It's. Not. Difficult.

Sometimes your punctuation is questionable.

I'm not having that, he's used a capital letter at the start of every sentence?

*Spooky, just spotted Rammy's post above

 

[Davs 19]

Don't. Click. Into. The. Thread. It's. Not. Difficult.

He. Does. Have . A . Point. Though....

He doesn't have a point at all. The thread is 600+ pages and the most active thread in this section because it's of paramount importance. Stands to reason that Bob's position is under threat, we've under-performed this season and we have a new structure in place at the top of the club.

Rammy, the same people keep regurgitating the same points of view - me included - the thread is 600 pages long because we are so entrenched in our respective points of view that the debate is pointless, he has a point IMO.......

 

[Danamy]

In the Kingdom of the deaf even the man who shouts loudest is still not heard

The same people are saying the same things to the same people nobody is listening yet everyone is talking

Clearly some people want Mancini out and no matter what anyone says they will not change their point of view. Some people want Mancini out and no matter what anyone says they will not change their point of view

So can we agree to disagree and save bandwidth with this tiresome and boring thread which isnt a debate its just a way of people saying the same thing in different ways

Same thing I said on page 600, also previously stated in the last Mancini thread ;)

This thread will never end.

Ever.

Ever?...............I beg to differ!

 

[allan harper]

On the bright side, I'll be looking forward to us playing 433 next year, not sure how many new players we will need to adopt that formation but its an exciting way to setup the team.

 

[Oohvonkyvonky]

In the Kingdom of the deaf even the man who shouts loudest is still not heard

The same people are saying the same things to the same people nobody is listening yet everyone is talking

Clearly some people want Mancini out and no matter what anyone says they will not change their point of view. Some people want Mancini out and no matter what anyone says they will not change their point of view

So can we agree to disagree and save bandwidth with this tiresome and boring thread which isnt a debate its just a way of people saying the same thing in different ways

Same thing I said on page 600, also previously stated in the last Mancini thread ;)

This thread will never end.

Ever.

Ever?...............I beg to differ!

It will be here longer than you or I!

And I am only 5.

 

[robbieh]

There isn't an issue with debating them. We have 600 pages debating them. I like debating them. But it is funny as fuck when people started off banging the drum for Jose as the one man to take us forward and ended up doing a backwards triple somersault with pike to splash down on...Frank De Boer and his 3 years in the Dutch League.

You need a heart of stone not to find it funny.

I think the outers will even start to find positives in Paolo Di Canio or Mick McCarthy if they were somehow linked to the club. This is the "anyone but Mancini" thread not "top replacements for Mancini" thread.

Thanks for bringing that to the table

But actually it is true. If someone had suggested de Boer and Pellegrini two months ago they would have been laughed out of court. All roads pointed to Pep, and if not him Mou. And if the worst came to the worst surely we could get Klopp, couldn't we.

Now people are touting a couple of guys, both unfit to knot Mancini's scarf at the moment, but for different reasons. One has had the same amount of time in the Europan managerial game and has won, well ahem zilch, which doesn't look too good stacked next to 4 leagues, three cups at four different clubs in two of the top four leagues historically. The other may one day be something but the jury has to be out.

If these managers are OK because Txiki can work with them then that is a sad state of affairs. What may have worked at Barca may not work in Manchester.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Tixylix "you want keep Yaya Bob?"
Bob "yeh,eez important"
Tixylix"I keep you Yaya Bob"

Tixylix "Bob, Bob, I got Yaya stay Bob!"
Bob "Sweet"

How hard can it be?

 

[Danamy]

Same thing I said on page 600, also previously stated in the last Mancini thread ;)

This thread will never end.

Ever.

Ever?...............I beg to differ!

It will be here longer than you or I!

And I am only 5.

Really?..........I had you down as a 3 year old? ;-)

 

[OB1]

There is no doubt some have convinced themselves Mancini has gone largely because they want him gone so badly it hurts. Some people have also now convinced themselves that its OK we are not getting a top tier manager because its Txki and he spotted Pep and did I mention they want Mancini gone so badly it hurts? Txiki could unveil Mark Hughes and there would be threads about why it went wrong last time, why it wasn't Hughes fault and why this time it will work. Oh and Mancini will be gone so thats all right then.


Mind you people doing their best to trash Mancini's record and blow life into Pellegrini's or paint De Boer as the new messiah now that the big names are off the table is funny as fuck.

If you believe what you have written you, I pity you.

If you think that pile of scrapings from the floor of your local cattle market is funny, I pity you.

 

[fbloke]

Tixylix "you want keep Yaya Bob?"
Bob "yeh,eez important"
Tixylix"I keep you Yaya Bob"

Tixylix "Bob, Bob, I got Yaya stay Bob!"
Bob "Sweet"

How hard can it be?

Its like they were in my front room.

 

[Danamy]

I think the outers will even start to find positives in Paolo Di Canio or Mick McCarthy if they were somehow linked to the club. This is the "anyone but Mancini" thread not "top replacements for Mancini" thread.

Thanks for bringing that to the table

But actually it is true. If someone had suggested de Boer and Pellegrini two months ago they would have been laughed out of court. All roads pointed to Pep, and if not him Mou. And if the worst came to the worst surely we could get Klopp, couldn't we.

Now people are touting a couple of guys, both unfit to knot Mancini's scarf at the moment, but for different reasons. One has had the same amount of time in the Europan managerial game and has won, well ahem zilch, which doesn't look too good stacked next to 4 leagues, three cups at four different clubs in two of the top four leagues historically. The other may one day be something but the jury has to be out.

If these managers are OK because Txiki can work with them then that is a sad state of affairs. What may have worked at Barca may not work in Manchester.

Can a thread not change direction then?........I can only speak for myself but have given my opinion why Mourinho wont fit our mould even though I rate him as one of the best in Europe.

If your saying people can't change their minds or a thread can't change direction, the cellar would only be down to two pages.