Mancini

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I find his urge to talk about the backstory to the denouement of his time at City to be a little tiresome. It isn't necessary. Lots of managers get what they could justifiably perceive as raw deal at clubs: Hodgson at Liverpool, Di Matteo at Chelsea, AVB at Spurs spring to mind, but they don't appear to be as compelled to go to the press with their spin on things.

He's coming across as a little bitter and small-time imo.

 

[argyle]

What tears? What's fucking weird about the anti-Mancini lot is that they don't understand that people who were fans of Mancini can still see why had to go, were pleased with the job he did all the same, and are now enjoying this season with the new manager whom we like. That's true for me anyway.

People like you just make yourselves look like very bitter people with strange outlooks on things.

...because you and your likeness are like flies to a turd. As soon as we draw or lose many come out the wood work writing about Mancini.

As soon as Mancini does a well calculated interview with a 'journalist' who has slagged us off all season you're all in the relevant thread crying about him.

Let it go and move on already.

Nope. You're incorrect. I think I've mentioned Mancini once in the Pellegrini thread and even apologised or doing so, I think I was just using him as an example. And I don't bring him up in post match threads as he isn't our manager.

If you'd read my post you'd see I have moved on, I am enjoying this season.

I've not cried since the day we won the league so I don't know why you keep saying "crying" and "tears".

Fair enough. Mistook you for those still bringing up Mancini is the pre/post match threads. Apologies.

 

[OB1]

we KNOW that bob was a loon, but he was our loon and a winning loon.

I'm not really here to offer my opinions on Mancini. The point is that the affection of supporters for Mancini was irrelevant. The manager of the team has to work successfully with a host of people beyond the first team squad and Bobby failed to do that; in addition to failing to win anything last season, which is a recipe for losing your job.

I will reiterate that I was one of the people who wanted Mancini installed at City well before Hughes got the bullet. I wanted Bobby to be hugely successful and was a big fan but I accepted it was time for him to go, which he has.

 

[Troubadour]

Part of supporting the Club is holding the Club's legends in high esteem. Have you ever heard of Joe Mercer? Some of us support the Club and our Managers

But Joe upset the apple-cart by refusing to honour his supposed promise to step aside for Allison. You could argue that started a chain of events that led to Swales taking control, relegation in 1983 and 25 years of underachievement and high drama. But none of us judge him on that or Big Mal on his disastrous tenure.

Was it because we didn't have things like the internet in those days and only got the official view? Big Mal won us nothing in his second spell and ripped us apart as a club and a team yet we still adored him.

So what is it about managers like Mancini & Hughes that makes people so dislike them?

PB your post is a bit of a silly one to be fair.
If Joe ever did decide to step aside for Big Mal then he probably realised what a disaster he would be and therefore changed his mind. This was proven true more than once! To bring that sequence of events into the Mancini saga is bizarre tbh!

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Your analogy is misplaced. It's not about my mentality; it's about that the fact that influential people in the club decided Mancini was not worth the trouble. That is a fact and my opinion on it, which I have not offered, is neither here nor there. The opinion of the person that I had a conversation with does matter and I do not claim to know him; I happen to have met him, briefly, a couple of times.

I'm obviously not going to name anyone but I will tell you that the same person also commented negatively on Mancini's handling of Joe Hart and that Mancini was not the right person to build the sort of culture that the club want.

we KNOW that bob was a loon, but he was our loon and a winning loon.

But was he "our" loon? The owners and executive had made it clear what they expected from him in terms of working with his fellow senior employees and the plan they wanted to follow. If you're an executive and your board and CEO expect you to work a certain way, which they had agreed was the best for the medium and long-term, then you go off and ignore them and don't deliver, what would you expect to happen?

If you send two of your lads out on a job and tell them exactly what you want doing and one says to the other "Fuck what he wants, I'm doing it my way" and then they cock it up, would you be happy?

The Barca Boys had messed up with their miserable Summer 2012 transfer window performance.

Ferran and Txiki were always going to want their own man and that is life. Bob was on borrowed time. People who bug their own staff (allegedly) aren't going to hesitate removing the manager who hadn't delivered in the CL. The sacking helped the Barca boys to cover their tracks.

 

[argyle]

we KNOW that bob was a loon, but he was our loon and a winning loon.

But was he "our" loon? The owners and executive had made it clear what they expected from him in terms of working with his fellow senior employees and the plan they wanted to follow. If you're an executive and your board and CEO expect you to work a certain way, which they had agreed was the best for the medium and long-term, then you go off and ignore them and don't deliver, what would you expect to happen?

If you send two of your lads out on a job and tell them exactly what you want doing and one says to the other "Fuck what he wants, I'm doing it my way" and then they cock it up, would you be happy?

The Barca Boys had messed up with their miserable Summer 2012 transfer window performance.

Ferran and Txiki were always going to want their own man and that is life. Bob was on borrowed time. People who bug their own staff (allegedly) aren't going to hesitate removing the manager who hadn't delivered in the CL. The sacking helped the Barca boys to cover their tracks.

They aren't the Barca boys anymore. They're our boys and a pretty damn good job they are doing too.

 

[Skashion]

He's coming across as a little bitter and small-time imo.

So did our club after we sacked him.

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

I'm off to work in an hour!

Don't bother calling the cops tonight because I won't be dispatching any to the inners and outers as it seems like people are still wanting to fight.

Loved Mancini.Love Pellegrini.
Jesus fucking wept.

 

[OB1]

Lol. You have the sort of mentality that thinks a bureaucratic in a hospital
Is more important than the surgeon who saves people's lives.

It seems pretty clear to me that Mancini has got pissed of with negative briefings from the Club. It is time for everyone to move on - not just Roberto.

Have the decency to name the ITK you claim to know.

Your analogy is misplaced. It's not about my mentality; it's about that the fact that influential people in the club decided Mancini was not worth the trouble. That is a fact and my opinion on it, which I have not offered, is neither here nor there. The opinion of the person that I had a conversation with does matter and I do not claim to know him; I happen to have met him, briefly, a couple of times.

I'm obviously not going to name anyone but I will tell you that the same person also commented negatively on Mancini's handling of Joe Hart and that Mancini was not the right person to build the sort of culture that the club want.

OK mate I respect your position for not naming your contact who sounds like a gobshite anyway. He could hardly be as important as our title winning manager though.

Yes I accept that it is important to keep the decision makers on side but the Barca Boys were always going to want their own man so trying to win over Txiki and Ferran would have been a futile pursuit in this particular case.

It clearly time to move on. Singing the MP song was clearly the highlight from Saturday.

No he wasn't a gobshite. He is one of the people charged with taking our club forward and he was kind enough to engage in polite and honest conversation with one of the club's supporters.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

He's coming across as a little bitter and small-time imo.

So did our club after we sacked him.

I think that's fair comment, up to a point.