Mancini

[OB1]

Was it one of those blokes that wheels the carb-loaded food into the dressing room on 'Tunnel Cam'?

That is a good guess Gordon. I also wondered whether Moonchester was coming out of retirement?

I think I know who the bloke is. He goes by the name the fifth column.

Pretty disturbing, if true, someone high up at the club is acting so unprofessionally.

What do you mean: "if true"?

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

That is a good guess Gordon. I also wondered whether Moonchester was coming out of retirement?

I think I know who the bloke is. He goes by the name the fifth column.

Pretty disturbing, if true, someone high up at the club is acting so unprofessionally.

What do you mean: "if true"?

You're wasting your time my friend. If the club came out and said Mancini was a convicted paedophile with Mafia links who took drugs and embezzled millions of pounds from the club to fund his habits, they'd still say "I don't care because he won the league & FA Cup."

The truth is that he had great strengths as a manager and gave us the best times of the last 40 years. But he had big weaknesses as well and, in the end, the weaknesses caused his downfall. Pretty much like Big Mal really.

 

[Dicko69]

Only read a bit of the thread but didn't he accept city job whilst hughes was in charge and non the wiser about his sacking. Its football. Evolution.(Unless your rag utd, moyes equal devolution) pelle will have his successor lined up b4 he is gone, that's life

 

[GoMancini7]

Huge difference between talking to new manager 1-2 week before you will fire the current manager after a horrible run of results (hughes= 8 draws in a row in the league vs shit teams too and then losses vs Bolton and Spurs maybe) or talking to new managers months (!) before you fire the current one with lot of things at stake yet like league run and Fa Cup at least.

Will I be surprised if Txiki/soriano does the same to Pellegrini too after some time unless he wins trophies every year? No.

 

[Blue Streak]

Such a shame it's coming to this although when the article appeared a few weeks ago with Mancini taking credit for City this season I did fear more to come. Now I loved Mancini although his flaws were all to see but why he is going public now is beyond belief. City managers have had to work in far more trying circumstances than Bobby (ie Reid under Swales and Horton under Lee) and when they left Maine Road they kept out the papers.

How this has made the front page of the Sun is what's truely shocking when far more important things are going on in the world but I suppose that's a mark of how far we have come and the talking point the club is.

But as Mourinho begins his mind games at the business end of the season, injuries kick in and now Bobby going public I hope it doesn't have an adverse effect on City. Call me paranoid but what with the midweek MEN article as well I can't help but feel that out there is an agenda to derail us.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Show me then these stone cold facts then. I don't think that is too much to ask.

As if I would on here.

I will give you the tip of the iceberg as it's in the public domain. This article is directly from Manchester City and tells a tenth of the real story. I've been told that real story, but I'm not saying any more.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2326322/Roberto-Mancini-revealed-The-Manchester-City-dressing-room-battles-sacking.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... cking.html</a>

Is some un-attributed internet article in The Mail your proof? You'll believe anything as long as it furthers your cause... Sources said, a club insider commented, I'll believe them when they show the courage of their convictions and come out and say what they have to say like Mancini did. He's the only person to yet come out with 'facts' whilst up till now all you're quoting is internet hearsay, not one name or one attributed quote, just nothing but hearsay.

A manager is there to manage not be the player's best mate and the player's should have respected that. I'd love to have seen what any other top-level manager would have done differently if they'd inherited the squad and characters that Mancini did.

The only difference between Fergie at ManUre and Mancini at City was that Ferguson managed to get rid of the bad element quicker than Mancini could. Fergie routed out players and staff who undermined him and replaced them with his own people, a trophy or 10 later Fergies dominance was enshrined. This was NEVER going to happen for Mancini at City from the day Soriano and Txiki arrived. If they'd been at ManUre when Fergie first arrived, I'm sure he'd have gone the same way.

Mancini wanted to run the club his way, the owners wanted the club to be run with a DOF deciding the way forward and from that day it was only ever going to end in tears for Mancini. MP knew the deal before he accepted the City just, so I don't see a similar problem emerging based purely on that fact.

So in future when you 'claim' to have facts, please have the evidence to back them up.

No, I made myself perfectly clear from my post. I have the facts of what went on in my possession. Not from the newspapers but from those who were there. I don't really care if people like you chose not to believe me, but those who come on the forum and know me in the real world know I don't tell lies on here. In fact I learnt a while back that it isn't worth giving out any information on here because the biggest mouths on this subject are nearly always the least informed, and start barking 'bullshit' at you. And to be honest, you might be a nice guy in real life, but someone who brackets Mancini with Ferguson is a solid gold football fool.

That story was run by ian Ladyman, one of city's favoured local journalists. A journalist who would find himself out of favour, and likely out of a job, should he be running bullshit stories. Go and look at his work over the years and see how many pieces he has been given by City. He's pally pally with the key figures at city and that's how he does his job.

Is the penny dropping yet?

I made it perfectly clear that that story was 'the tip of the iceberg'. That it was a sanitised version of what happened put out by the club to try to explain to people like you,with your heads in the sand, why a manager who'd won the league was out of the door 12 months later. There was much much more that went on behind the scenes. Some of it was leaked to other journos, some of it wasn't. I'm not sure the names of the players who were going to leave should Mancini stay has ever been made public, but it's lengthy and contains some surprising names.

There is a damn good reason why Mancini didn't make the short lists for United, Chelsea, Real Madrid, PSG, inter Milan, Barcelona and all of those other top jobs which came up in the summer when he was touting himself around. People have got wise to him. Believe what you want, I don't really care, because I don't have 'a cause' as you so melodramatically call it. I had a cause, and I was vindicated by Sheikh mansour on May 15th 2013. You're the one with the 'cause', but it's misguided and based on ignorance I'm afraid.

There's not a single person at Manchester City FC who isn't delighted that Txiki sussed this guy out so quickly and gave him the bullet. The only people still hankering for him are those who know nothing about football. It's as black and white as that.

 

[kaz7]

Can someone post the whole interview please?

 

[Damocles]

As if I would on here.

I will give you the tip of the iceberg as it's in the public domain. This article is directly from Manchester City and tells a tenth of the real story. I've been told that real story, but I'm not saying any more.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2326322/Roberto-Mancini-revealed-The-Manchester-City-dressing-room-battles-sacking.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... cking.html</a>

Is some un-attributed internet article in The Mail your proof? You'll believe anything as long as it furthers your cause... Sources said, a club insider commented, I'll believe them when they show the courage of their convictions and come out and say what they have to say like Mancini did. He's the only person to yet come out with 'facts' whilst up till now all you're quoting is internet hearsay, not one name or one attributed quote, just nothing but hearsay.

A manager is there to manage not be the player's best mate and the player's should have respected that. I'd love to have seen what any other top-level manager would have done differently if they'd inherited the squad and characters that Mancini did.

The only difference between Fergie at ManUre and Mancini at City was that Ferguson managed to get rid of the bad element quicker than Mancini could. Fergie routed out players and staff who undermined him and replaced them with his own people, a trophy or 10 later Fergies dominance was enshrined. This was NEVER going to happen for Mancini at City from the day Soriano and Txiki arrived. If they'd been at ManUre when Fergie first arrived, I'm sure he'd have gone the same way.

Mancini wanted to run the club his way, the owners wanted the club to be run with a DOF deciding the way forward and from that day it was only ever going to end in tears for Mancini. MP knew the deal before he accepted the City just, so I don't see a similar problem emerging based purely on that fact.

So in future when you 'claim' to have facts, please have the evidence to back them up.

No, I made myself perfectly clear from my post. I have the facts of what went on in my possession. Not from the newspapers but from those who were there. I don't really care if people like you chose not to believe me, but those who come on the forum and know me in the real world know I don't tell lies on here. In fact I learnt a while back that it isn't worth giving out any information on here because the biggest mouths on this subject are nearly always the least informed, and start barking 'bullshit' at you. And to be honest, you might be a nice guy in real life, but someone who brackets Mancini with Ferguson is a solid gold football fool.

That story was run by ian Ladyman, one of city's favoured local journalists. A journalist who would find himself out of favour, and likely out of a job, should he be running bullshit stories. Go and look at his work over the years and see how many pieces he has been given by City. He's pally pally with the key figures at city and that's how he does his job.

Is the penny dropping yet?

I made it perfectly clear that that story was 'the tip of the iceberg'. That it was a sanitised version of what happened put out by the club to try to explain to people like you,with your heads in the sand, why a manager who'd won the league was out of the door 12 months later. There was much much more that went on behind the scenes. Some of it was leaked to other journos, some of it wasn't. I'm not sure the names of the players who were going to leave should Mancini stay has ever been made public, but it's lengthy and contains some surprising names.

There is a damn good reason why Mancini didn't make the short lists for United, Chelsea, Real Madrid, PSG, inter Milan, Barcelona and all of those other top jobs which came up in the summer when he was touting himself around. People have got wise to him. Believe what you want, I don't really care, because I don't have 'a cause' as you so melodramatically call it. I had a cause, and I was vindicated by Sheikh mansour on May 15th 2013. You're the one with the 'cause', but it's misguided and based on ignorance I'm afraid.

There's not a single person at Manchester City FC who isn't delighted that Txiki sussed this guy out so quickly and gave him the bullet. The only people still hankering for him are those who know nothing about football. It's as black and white as that.

I bowed out of this one early mate. Nobody wants a proper conversation and everybody wants to call you a ****. There's no point in conversing with those who won't listen to reason or debate in good faith.

 

[Shayam183]

Interesting timing for the article, just after City dropped points from two games. Great work "The Shit"

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I'll join you Dammers. Night all.