Mancini's selection and tactics

[Blue Heaven]

70% spot on. Are you serious??

He needs to go, he seems to be completely lost atm.

We should sack a manager ten games after we have won our first chamiponship in ten years.

He won titles, but let's face it, it was about fuc*ing time to win the Premier League with a roster like that.

About time!!! he had two full season in charge with a team not even likely to qualify for a champs lge place. First full season year third and FA Cup. Second year Champions that is a dramatic acceleration of our fortunes. If we had a good roster it was due to Mancinis signings.

You can blame players as long as you want, but when the team underperforms constantly, it's manager's fault.

Constantly underperform. We havent been beaten at home for nearly two years in the lge and are the champions of our domestic league. Yes we really are continually underperforming.

City looked like an average club.

Yes an average club competing against Dortumnd in the Champions league. Average clubs dont become champions of the premier league.

Mancini not special

He has won trophies at every club he has managed. You can argue he isnt as good as a Mourinho etc but he is anything but average.

Just embarrassing any City fan would agree with such a stupid post.

I think Mancio has lost his way, but I do agree with you that he has earned the right to manage for the entire season. Not much point in bringing in a new manager at this juncture, unless, I suppose, he's on sabbatical and floating around out there...But okay, Mancio has time to steady the ship, but to go out in the CL Group stage again will mean that he probably has to win the league. If we do go out of the CL early, I hope we finish last and miss all of those Thursday night Eurodisney fixtures in God-forsaken and very distant Euro outposts. I know this, however, and that is any manager on the planet can lose his position very quickly, even in-season, if he loses the dressing room.

Well I personally hope that is not the case. In the Premier league and Champs league we are competing against a number of world class teams. We have no divine right to win either trophy and if he gets sacked the first year he is unsuccessful (like United were last year) it would be a sad day for the football club.

Quite amazing how all these theories about losing the dressing room surface after a bad result or two or losing the plot. One of the poorest performaers this season has been Kompany and he has just committed to City for a number of years with Mancini as manager. Similarly so has David Silva. Once those type of players start reproducing there best form we will return to the side that won at Newcastle beat United and clinched the championship. Nothing significant has changed with the exception of players form.

Too many people on this forum has preconceived ideas about Mancini (Not referring this to you) and so when we have a blip (a draw with the German Champions) its used as a brush to beat him with. Such as he is tactically a failure in Europe... well so is Wenger and the vast majority of other managers as few managers have lifted the euro cup.

Were lucky to have him and as yet were still unbeaten in the Premiership. Some crisis.

I agree that it is incredibly difficult to win the CL. Look at all those dominant Chelsea squads under Mourinho and others that couldn't get it done, and then di Matteo leads a ragtag and aging bunch to glory. You have to keep coming back, year after year, and continue to pound on the door, and wait until Lady Luck answers. Even if we go out at the Group Stage again, it's not a fatal wound for Mancio, but I think he would need to win the league, or something equivalent (but we'd only have the FA Cup in addition). The owner would not wish to chop and change managers again, especially after signing for a cool 35 for 5 seasons.

I'm not implying that I've heard or seen anything to indicate dressing room unrest of a serious nature. Only the Daily Star comes up with those articles, and none of its fellow media organs ever reprint or cut-and-paste those stories, so that may indicate something about their credibility. However, I do not know that there isn't significant disenchantment with Mancio - after all, hasn't there always been in his clubs? Kind of like Koeman, in that regard.

I am a longtime Mancio fan, but I assure you that in addition to being an excellent tactical manager (until recently ;-)), he has always had trouble getting along with those he works with, going back to his days as a great, but mercurial, player. We are lucky to have him, but he's also pretty lucky to have been signed for 35 for 5 seasons and backed with what, 400 million in incoming transfers.

I'm not panicked, but I am deeply concerned with the regression in our play. If we do not sort out our issues on the pitch, then we will soon start to drop points in Prem fixtures, and that would be an unfortunate development.

 

[salfordblues]

So much random shite in this thread.

This is/was a decent debate about Selection and Tactics. If you want a Mancini in/out thread, make your own.

 

[Balti]

even Kiddo was telling him that 3 at the back was a big mistake

 

[rastus]

even Kiddo was telling him that 3 at the back was a big mistake

Nope, kiddo was telling him to get the fruit pastilles out...fact

 

[Simon Curtis MCFC]

well i'm still shocked after that dortmund performance i think 4-1-4-1 against ajax with tevez up on his own aguero feeding him the ball with silva on the other side . and full on defence .

 

[DruntBlunt]

...However, I believe the greater danger for Mancio is falling out badly with the owner and Chairman. I'll be fascinated to observe Ferran Soriano as our day-to-day onsite leader. Brilliant career at Barca, and very, very close to the Pep, currently "on sabbatical" or so they say.

Mmm, think you're on to something here. Bobby will be given time to build a Euro powerhouse, but how much? No progress from group stages nor league title this season will mean a much earlier exit than what it says on his contract I'm afraid.

 

[Ragnarok]

To all those who want Mancini gone... Keep Dreaming

 

[LoveCity]

Mancini's job will be totally secure, we don't have trigger happy owners and he's barely into a 5-year contract that would cost more than a world class player to terminate! However I think Mancini may need to alter his ideology, we limped over the finishing line last season and are struggling this season with our slow build-up style. Pace and directness is a proven formula in the Premier League and we have the resources to bring in fast/direct AND intelligent players instead of tall and technically sound midfielders that we seem to over-invest in (Garcia and Rodwell - why both and not one?). If we want to play this methodical build-up passing football then we have to move the ball much faster, press constantly, and be very clever like Barcelona are (teams learned how to defend better against Barca but Barca are managing to work around that and win with the same style).

 

[Mancio]

To all those who want Mancini gone... Keep Dreaming

they have the advantage to be used. are now almost 3 years they get used. they thought Mancini was sent away within the first 6 months.

 

[Danielmanc]

Mancini's job will be totally secure, we don't have trigger happy owners and he's barely into a 5-year contract that would cost more than a world class player to terminate! However I think Mancini may need to alter his ideology, we limped over the finishing line last season and are struggling this season with our slow build-up style. Pace and directness is a proven formula in the Premier League and we have the resources to bring in fast/direct AND intelligent players instead of tall and technically sound midfielders that we seem to over-invest in (Garcia and Rodwell - why both and not one?). If we want to play this methodical build-up passing football then we have to move the ball much faster, press constantly, and be very clever like Barcelona are (teams learned how to defend better against Barca but Barca are managing to work around that and win with the same style).

Hi

We won all of our last 6 matches - how is that limping ?