Manuel Pellegrini (cont)

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de niro said:
KnaresboroughBlue said:
J_Bow said:
This was the rumour going about that swayed Alexis to London and apparently Fabregas was more keen on London too.

Any decent man would be having none of it and putting his career first.

Perhaps they thought those moves were best for their careers.

and if west ham came knocking? suddenely london isn't such a draw. footballers want it all. money, shopping, trophies.

It's a balance of them all though isn't it? location, money, and potential. If you're neck and neck on two of them, then the third can swing a decision.

People underestimate player's families too. Obviously wives will have a say, but it can be parents and other family members too painting Manchester as cold and miserable, and London as 'short hop' back to Spain etc.

I don't think Manchester's got the pull that London has, but I'm sure it's ahead of Brum, Newcastle, Leeds, and Liverpool!
 
de niro said:
cleavers said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
it doesn't really.
We'll have to differ then, but I've lived within 30 miles of London for the last 25 years, its certainly nothing special.

Manchester may not have the quantity of places that London has, but London doesn't really have anything that Manchester doesn't have, other than a queen, and London doesn't have Manchester City.

Manchester is a village compared to London.
Indeed it is, but its easy to find everything in a village, and you can get around much easier.

A footballer should head to the best place to ply his trade, and generally they do, which is why Arsenal used to attract the best, but rarely do these days, same with united. Luckily for Manchester, it has great links with most of the best places in Europe, and even the world, and obviously this will always help. There's not much between us and Chelsea on the football front, but we should offer the better project imho, better stadium, better facilities, better plans, and as a few have alluded too above, if they prefer shopping in London, then they probably aren't suited to City. I don't think we've missed out on anyone due to location, just the fact we couldn't pay the transfer fee, or the wages due to UEFA. That will end, so lets see how we compete then.

One other thing that should be factored in, is that City are looking for a specific character of player to fit the clubs vision, so just because the daily rag says we lost out on player x, doesn't mean its true, and nobody knows who we have actually negotiated for.
 
cleavers said:
de niro said:
cleavers said:
We'll have to differ then, but I've lived within 30 miles of London for the last 25 years, its certainly nothing special.

Manchester may not have the quantity of places that London has, but London doesn't really have anything that Manchester doesn't have, other than a queen, and London doesn't have Manchester City.

Manchester is a village compared to London.
Indeed it is, but its easy to find everything in a village, and you can get around much easier.

A footballer should head to the best place to ply his trade, and generally they do, which is why Arsenal used to attract the best, but rarely do these days, same with united. Luckily for Manchester, it has great links with most of the best places in Europe, and even the world, and obviously this will always help. There's not much between us and Chelsea on the football front, but we should offer the better project imho, better stadium, better facilities, better plans, and as a few have alluded too above, if they prefer shopping in London, then they probably aren't suited to City. I don't think we've missed out on anyone due to location, just the fact we couldn't pay the transfer fee, or the wages due to UEFA. That will end, so lets see how we compete then.

One other thing that should be factored in, is that City are looking for a specific character of player to fit the clubs vision, so just because the daily rag says we lost out on player x, doesn't mean its true, and nobody knows who we have actually negotiated for.

agree with this. i can only understand a player wanting to go to london if he's from there originally/has family links there etc, which could apply to any city in the world. if a player wants a london club for non football related reasons like shopping/nightlife, then i'm afraid that player isnt in football for the right reasons imo.
 
mikeyboy said:
cleavers said:
de niro said:
Manchester is a village compared to London.
Indeed it is, but its easy to find everything in a village, and you can get around much easier.

A footballer should head to the best place to ply his trade, and generally they do, which is why Arsenal used to attract the best, but rarely do these days, same with united. Luckily for Manchester, it has great links with most of the best places in Europe, and even the world, and obviously this will always help. There's not much between us and Chelsea on the football front, but we should offer the better project imho, better stadium, better facilities, better plans, and as a few have alluded too above, if they prefer shopping in London, then they probably aren't suited to City. I don't think we've missed out on anyone due to location, just the fact we couldn't pay the transfer fee, or the wages due to UEFA. That will end, so lets see how we compete then.

One other thing that should be factored in, is that City are looking for a specific character of player to fit the clubs vision, so just because the daily rag says we lost out on player x, doesn't mean its true, and nobody knows who we have actually negotiated for.

agree with this. i can only understand a player wanting to go to london if he's from there originally/has family links there etc, which could apply to any city in the world. if a player wants a london club for non football related reasons like shopping/nightlife, then i'm afraid that player isnt in football for the right reasons imo.

Most players when plying their trade abroad like to make sure that their family are happy. That doesnt necessarily mean that they want to indulge them in shopping trips and nightlife. But if, for example, they know that there are a few coffee shops frequented mainly by Chileans, or at least Spanish speakers, where the missus can go and meet other Chilean women in the morning for a natter while the player is training, that will have a greater appeal than the proximity of Harrods. Its easier for foreigners to settle in London than Manchester because there are likely to be more ex pats from their country, more restaurants serving their national dishes, more of their country's culture.
 
mikeyboy said:
cleavers said:
de niro said:
Manchester is a village compared to London.
Indeed it is, but its easy to find everything in a village, and you can get around much easier.

A footballer should head to the best place to ply his trade, and generally they do, which is why Arsenal used to attract the best, but rarely do these days, same with united. Luckily for Manchester, it has great links with most of the best places in Europe, and even the world, and obviously this will always help. There's not much between us and Chelsea on the football front, but we should offer the better project imho, better stadium, better facilities, better plans, and as a few have alluded too above, if they prefer shopping in London, then they probably aren't suited to City. I don't think we've missed out on anyone due to location, just the fact we couldn't pay the transfer fee, or the wages due to UEFA. That will end, so lets see how we compete then.

One other thing that should be factored in, is that City are looking for a specific character of player to fit the clubs vision, so just because the daily rag says we lost out on player x, doesn't mean its true, and nobody knows who we have actually negotiated for.

agree with this. i can only understand a player wanting to go to london if he's from there originally/has family links there etc, which could apply to any city in the world. if a player wants a london club for non football related reasons like shopping/nightlife, then i'm afraid that player isnt in football for the right reasons imo.

why? would be like turning down New York to live in Baltimore, just because they might pay you more or do better in whatever American Sport for a couple of years.

Could hardly think of anything I'd really spend my money on, or time doing in Manchester, than going to City.
 
Davs 19 said:
Got everything pretty much spot on today and bossed maureen in his own back yard.

Tactically I don't think we were lacking but it's obvious we need to put more time on on our corners..
 
Davs 19 said:
Got everything pretty much spot on today and bossed maureen in his own back yard.

Not only that he will land us the league again this season.
 
Davs 19 said:
Got everything pretty much spot on today and bossed maureen in his own back yard.

Not sure what he specifically did, his selection was predictable due to having no Nasri or Yaya.

We used our width well today for a change, just lacked the final ball and getting more bodies into the danger area.

I didn't like his late subs of Aguero & Silva.
 
blueinsa said:
Davs 19 said:
Got everything pretty much spot on today and bossed maureen in his own back yard.

Not only that he will land us the league again this season.

I agree. I feel more confident after today than I've felt all season, particularly considering we've got Yaya coming back, Samir heading back to fitness and Bony giving us the boost of something direct up front. I felt we bossed Chelsea and I'm feeling pretty confident after today. We can close that gap.
 
He made the right decision today in starting Sagna instead of Zabaleta. Sagna had a very good game and was a hazard for hazard..............................

Anyway, he deserved credit for that and we looked more solid at the back apart from the goal which was more about Chelsea's play than our defensive ails.

However I think he should have gone for it in the second half by bringing Dzeko or Jovetic earlier in the second half and so a big opportunity missed. But all in all, you cannot really fault how the team was organised and coordinated all over the pitch.
 
Much respect to Pellegrini. I would've picked a different team, but the one he picked was spot on. Got all the big decisions right, and really bullied Mourinho's side on their own patch/pitch.

Most importantly though his players once again stepped up in a big game and put in the kind of performance which has already won us two titles.

I bet he's desperate to get Toure/Bony/Nasri back. It's a big call but I'm saying we don't lose again this season and won't draw more than one more game. We can win 14/15 on the bounce with those players back.

Anyway well done to the gaffer once again.
 
Mister Appointment said:
Much respect to Pellegrini. I would've picked a different team, but the one he picked was spot on. Got all the big decisions right, and really bullied Mourinho's side on their own patch/pitch.

Most importantly though his players once again stepped up in a big game and put in the kind of performance which has already won us two titles.

I bet he's desperate to get Toure/Bony/Nasri back. It's a big call but I'm saying we don't lose again this season and won't draw more than one more game. We can win 14/15 on the bounce with those players back.

Anyway well done to the gaffer once again.

It wasn't the right team when I suggested it ;).

The manager has done superbly well to cope with all the injuries. Just watch us go when he has a full squad to choose from. I'm really confident.
 
hgblue said:
Mister Appointment said:
Much respect to Pellegrini. I would've picked a different team, but the one he picked was spot on. Got all the big decisions right, and really bullied Mourinho's side on their own patch/pitch.

Most importantly though his players once again stepped up in a big game and put in the kind of performance which has already won us two titles.

I bet he's desperate to get Toure/Bony/Nasri back. It's a big call but I'm saying we don't lose again this season and won't draw more than one more game. We can win 14/15 on the bounce with those players back.

Anyway well done to the gaffer once again.

It wasn't the right team when I suggested it ;).

The manager has done superbly well to cope with all the injuries. Just watch us go when he has a full squad to choose from. I'm really confident.

I have fuck all faith in Milner at present so would never have picked that team and would've had Dzeko or Jovetic playing instead of him - but as with most things, I'm not the manager and the manager got his team selection bang on based not just on the result but the overall performance too.
 
Mister Appointment said:
hgblue said:
Mister Appointment said:
Much respect to Pellegrini. I would've picked a different team, but the one he picked was spot on. Got all the big decisions right, and really bullied Mourinho's side on their own patch/pitch.

Most importantly though his players once again stepped up in a big game and put in the kind of performance which has already won us two titles.

I bet he's desperate to get Toure/Bony/Nasri back. It's a big call but I'm saying we don't lose again this season and won't draw more than one more game. We can win 14/15 on the bounce with those players back.

Anyway well done to the gaffer once again.

It wasn't the right team when I suggested it ;).

The manager has done superbly well to cope with all the injuries. Just watch us go when he has a full squad to choose from. I'm really confident.

I have fuck all faith in Milner at present so would never have picked that team and would've had Dzeko or Jovetic playing instead of him - but as with most things, I'm not the manager and the manager got his team selection bang on based not just on the result but the overall performance too.

Get the flags out, we agree ;).
 
I'm looking forward to going back to 4-4-2 and seeing Bony in action. For all the criticism people gave Pellers over 4-4-2 we look a much better side using it. Last season we were putting 4,5 and 6 past teams on a regular basis. This season aside from Spurs we have looked a lot more conservative. Hopefully the return of the 4-4-2 will see a return to form and a couple of consecutive big wins will really put the pressure on Mourine.
 
city91 said:
I'm looking forward to going back to 4-4-2 and seeing Bony in action. For all the criticism people gave Pellers over 4-4-2 we look a much better side using it. Last season we were putting 4,5 and 6 past teams on a regular basis. This season aside from Spurs we have looked a lot more conservative. Hopefully the return of the 4-4-2 will see a return to form and a couple of consecutive big wins will really put the pressure on Mourine.

4-4-2 PL , 4-2-3-1 UCL.
 
i♥city! said:
city91 said:
I'm looking forward to going back to 4-4-2 and seeing Bony in action. For all the criticism people gave Pellers over 4-4-2 we look a much better side using it. Last season we were putting 4,5 and 6 past teams on a regular basis. This season aside from Spurs we have looked a lot more conservative. Hopefully the return of the 4-4-2 will see a return to form and a couple of consecutive big wins will really put the pressure on Mourine.
4-4-2 PL , 4-2-3-1 UCL.
Yep! But I think for some teams in PL also use 4-2-3-1 or be ready to change it with subs in the game.
 
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