Marc Cucurella

[bumbleblue]

When we have set a price before and not gone above that price it has worked in our favour as in Sanchez, Maguire,Fred etc but although I stand totally with our management behind it all I do think we have missed out here

He hasn’t signed for anyone else yet..

 

[Dribble]

I suppose I'll stick my head above the parapet on this one.....

1. Yes we did, it was a release clause and great deal. He was clearly worth way more than that from the moment he stepped foot on the pitch.

2. Not surprised, would be a great deal for a young player who would fit seamlessly into your style of play.

3. We don't actually want to sell. Although I believe you bought Zinchenko for less than 2m and sold him for 32m, which is FOUR SQUARED times more. If we're going to be convinced, make us an offer we can't refuse. You'd do the same for any of your stars. If PSG want Foden? There will be a price you'd say yes to, and it would be astonishingly large.

A. The answer is its neither of us or both of us, it's just what has happened to football. Mouthwatering transfer fees were happening while we played at the withdean athletics track, and before you were taken over by Abu Dhabi. And more relevantly, rather than complain about it, we can surely both recognise that we've each taken advantage of it way better than most of our competitors, you're now one of the best teams in the world, we've gone from a relegation scrap in league 1 to top half of the Premier league. Poorly managed historically 'big clubs are languishing, well managed clubs like City and the Albion are flourishing. Under different management we'd just be one of the myriad of 'smaller clubs who can't compete'

Zinchenko was a young EDS prospect when we bought him. After 6 years at City, he left as Captain of the Ukraine national team & a multi-title winning player domestically & a CL regular. Cucurella has won nowt, never play CL football & has one cap for Spain.

Zinchenko was sold for £32m, so how do you justify a rumoured £50m plus £15m in add-on for Cucurella? Please explain? :-/

Foden is a Premier League Champions & England first team regular & rated in the top 5 young players in the world. Where's the comparison with Cucurella?

So again, who out of City & Brighton are bringing inflationary pressures into the game seeing as we also sold Brazil starter Jesus & England starter Sterling for a combined £92.5m as opposed to a rumoured £65m fee wanted for Cucurella?

 

[Irishblue93]

Very quiet the last day or 2 on the Chelsea front?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

As Frank Zappa famously stated “you are what you is”.

Ergo, if you are playing left back then you is a left back.

Thus he played left back (regularly) so he was a regular left back and there’s no escaping that except by hiding in a nice warm safe blanket of delusion.

Though I do agree that it maybe wasn’t his favoured position.

They’d have to call Cancelo a right back using the same logic as he plays there for his country.

Oh and Walker a centre half too.

 

[theres only one carlito]

Zinchenko was a young EDS prospect when we bought him. After 6 years at City, he left as Captain of the Ukraine national team & a multi-title winning player domestically & a CL regular. Cucurella has won nowt, never play CL football & has one cap for Spain.

Zinchenko was sold for £32m, so how do you justify a rumoured £50m plus £15m in add-on for Cucurella? Please explain? :-/

Foden is a Premier League Champions & England first team regular & rated in the top 5 young players in the world. Where's the comparison with Cucurella?

So again, who out of City & Brighton are bringing inflationary pressures into the game seeing as we also sold Brazil starter Jesus & England starter Sterling for a combined £92.5m as opposed to a rumoured £65m fee wanted for Cucurella?

Your user name is not a fair reflection of this post. Excellent squire

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Your user name is not a fair reflection of this post. Excellent squire

Don’t mention his username. He’s a bit touchy about it.

;-)

 

[Zenmanc]

The number of people in here boldly saying "just pay the money" is ridiculous. Yes we need a left back- we've needed a left back for years. Are we really supposed to drop our pants and just pay up even when the price asked is well and above our valuation? This isn't football Manager- we can't just throw money around like there's no consequence. We already know that every time we look at a player the price goes up compared to another team. If we simply just throw the money on the table that's asked we might as well be ready to just throw the money on the table anytime we need any player in the future.

 

[JewelZee]

It's odd because reports were Chelsea walked away from the Aké deal after being quoted far less for him by City than they're reportedly being quoted for Cucurella by Brighton.

Why walk away from a former club trained academy product, experienced PL player & longstanding Netherlands international, then potentially pay £20m more for one PL season, one international cap Cucurella?

Summats not adding up here! :-/

Exactly. And while Cucurella has shown to be dynamite up the left flank this idea that he's not going there to compete with Chillwell but to play LCB in a 3 back set makes it even stranger. Ake may not be the LB Cucurella is, but Cucurella is 1000% not the LCB Ake is either. If Chelsea are actually looking for a replacement for Rudiger Ake is by far the better option. So we're supposed to believe 50 mil for Ake was too much for Chelsea, but possibly up to 65 mil for Cucurella to play out of position is OK with Chelsea. And I know Cucurella has played some at LCB, but without his ability to get up the field, run the line, and whip in crosses his value becomes much diminished. He is far from special as an inside back and IMO not even worth City's opening 30 mil pound bid in that position.

 

[Dribble]

I agree with you, its not just Brighton who see city as a money bag club, and im glad that you have walked away not because i dont want Cucu to go but because you have stuck to your guns. Wait to Newcastle start trying to get players, dont know if its true but i read that there owners are wealthier than you so its going to be a Geordie tax.

This is part of the problem with modern football now, i dont like it that clubs inflate prices because you have money, its not fair on the player.
This is where i fel sorry for Cucu he wants u, but unfairly Brighton have priced him out of that. I have nothing against him wanting to go as far as he can, u were the ideal club for him. We will never be able to compete with top 6 sides, our aim is that spot between 7 and 10th with maybe a cup final here or there. Thats how i would describe ourr ambitions. Hopefully that answered 1 and 2.
Yes it is a risk Bloom is taking, hopefully for BHAFC it does not backfire on him. Time will tell, one thing i will say is alot of our scouting is south america and unknown players, so there only real chance of P L is Brighton. However in Europe im sure agents will be weary of getting the best deal from Bloom. Again only time will tell.

I think alot of fans and media will say Bloom stood up to City because for some reason they like to give u bad press, again i dont know why. As i said some time ago, u have had ur off field problems, and have now risen to the top, and good luck u deserve it.
I was at the Goldstone in May 2 weeks i think before the cup final, you beat ys 1 nil to relegate us to division 2, yes u also come down the following week but i think went straight back up, we us that was the start of our decline.

It's like house prices. Economists place great importance on increasing house prices as a sign of a healthy economy, but if I sold my house for £750k, I'd have to spend at least that amount in the same area for a similar house, so no one wins & those at the entry level are cut further adrift.

Football has gone fuckin crazy, whereby mid-table teams are selling decent players for £50m+ & buying decent players for up to £40m. PSG made me nearly shit myself into a coma when they paid Barça £198m for Neymar & £162m for Mbappé.

Conversely, was Coutinho to Barça really worth £140m? Football has gone crackers, but everyone seems to accept the European elite spending the equivalent of the Gross Domestic Product of a small Island nation on one player, but when City spent £150m on 4 top quality international defenders, we were accused of throwing money around & ruining football!

Hopefully your experience on this forum will be shared with others that City are anything but a loadsamoney oil club who throw money around with wanton abandon.

We have our valuations based on sound scouting, with a bit of negotiating wriggle room built in. Several posters have outlined to you already all the players we walked away from when the selling club decided to take the piss.

Personally, I really want/wanted Cucurella at City, but not at any cost. Now it's becoming blatantly clear that Brighton want to keep the player & will only sell if a crazy offer is made, & that's your right to do so, as it's our right to walk away if the prices quoted are too rich for our blood.

The final thing to consider is Cucurella. What about him & his dream of playing in the top echelons of European football? How will potential Cucurella's view his plight in future when considering an approach from the Gulls?

Bloom's stance over Cucurella could have longlasting & serious ramifications for Brighton's recruitment ambitions going forward. At best these potential top players will want buyout clauses inserted to protect their future careers from being priced out of dream moves. It's not a good place for Brighton to be if I'm being honest. )(

 

[JewelZee]

He never been much of any set position at club level tbf.

True. Its why he always returns to the midfield when playing for country.