Marc Cucurella

[hammocity]

It is allowed, and we have done similar we turned the debt into equity periodically as we incurred it.

FFP only relates to money in and money out.

Lots of chelsea debt predated FFP too.

But Chelsea were still doing it after FFP, it was unsustainable as the debt increased every year. Anyway, the new rules won’t allow Chelsea to use that Business model anymore, I think players will be signing on longer contracts to amortise the fees to keep within the spending and wages rules.

 

[Great Kompany]

Why though, what's the point?

It would piss me off as the seller and in a negotiation is that not the last thing you want to do?

Exactly
Why piss off billionaires. We ain’t spurs and Omar and Txiki ain’t Levy. Why pocket pinch just to show interest. This is a big position to fill and and we don’t even have a Delph or Zinc to convert them into LBs

Ake Laporte ain’t LBs.

 

[bluesmith]

But Chelsea were still doing it after FFP, it was unsustainable as the debt increased every year. Anyway, the new rules won’t allow Chelsea to use that Business model anymore, I think players will be signing on longer contracts to amortise the fees to keep within the spending and wages rules.

So were we. Its not relevant to FFP.

That's rich! Manchester City owner Mansour writes off club's £305m debts

Manchester City owner Sheik Mansour has sensationally wiped out the club's £305million debts. The mega-rich Abu Dhabi businessman has transformed the club's huge debt into equity.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[waspish]

All over the world, reality is going to bite in the next 12 months.

Yep and seems city dealings this window are looking ahead to what’s might be down the line! With Ukraine war and how long that’s going to last? Plus the Taiwan with China situation…

 

[hammocity]

So were we. Its not relevant to FFP.

That's rich! Manchester City owner Mansour writes off club's £305m debts

Manchester City owner Sheik Mansour has sensationally wiped out the club's £305million debts. The mega-rich Abu Dhabi businessman has transformed the club's huge debt into equity.

www.dailymail.co.uk

That article pre dates FFP

 

[Dribble]

They thought they were getting kounde.

So Cucurella is Chelsea's Aké/Koundé alternative?

 

[Inter Me Nan]

That “£60m fee” for Cancelo is a bit disingenuous.

Didn't Danilio going the other way make it about £27 million or am I remembering wrong?

 

[Dribble]

I think the likelihood is they walked away from the Ake deal because they got advised Kounde was coming onto the market and considered he had a higher ceiling than Ake so targetted him instead.

So Cucurella is Chelsea's Aké/Koundé alternative?

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Regardless, they’d have had a better argument if they compared Cucurella to Mendy.

When we signed Mendy he was regarded as one of the best young defenders in Europe and had just won the French League and reached the CL semi-final with a star-studded Monaco team. Before then he had been successful at Marseille. We know it all ended in tears but when we signed Mendy he was rated much higher than Cucurella is now. I think City did the right thing walking away.
If the reports are true that Bloom refused to talk directly to City (essentially taking the piss) than I can't see what else we could have done. The days of clubs taking the piss out of City are over.

 

[Coatigan]

We bought Danilo for £26.5m on a 5 year deal. He’d be worth £21m on our books when we sold him.

Anything else is accountancy balance. He’s down as a €37m part exchange on Wikipedia, which seems €10-15m too high.

I agree. My point is it is not entirely disingenuous to refer to Cancelo as a 60m signing. Since we paid 60m for him. While getting 30m back for Danilo.

In the same way Phillips is a 42m signing, despite us getting 5m back for an outhing youngster, and Cucurella will be a 52-55m or whatever signing, and not 30-40m depending on what they get back for their Colville.