Marc Cucurella

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Starting to think that Brighton were looking for a LB because they thought City were going to pay 50m. Why not, given that Arsenal paid 50m for White! But...turns out they were (probably) wrong. As things stand, a deal is anything but done or close. If there's a deal, it will be closer to 50m than to 40m, that much is certain now.

I think no Cucu deal is more likely now. Things may change a bit with a transfer request. But Sosa/another LB + JWE is the likely way to go forward.
They are near to signing a LB though
 
You are entitled to ask for what you want for him, but it sounds like you are basing it on what we have paid for fullbacks before. There is no bidding war here, it is a case of one club wanting him, one club willing to consider selling him and one player willing to accept the move. I don’t think you are in as strong a negotiation position as you think you are. If we walk away you will be left with an unhappy player, then what? Accept a similar bid in 12 months time and an adversely affected team spirit?

The only happy solution for both parties here is a halfway £40 million accepted offer. Otherwise both clubs will be in weaker positions when they next negotiate transfers. If we walk away at £30 mill you will be weaker, if we cough up £50 mill we will be weaker.

I understand that perception of the buying / selling process - it’s a popular one but, with due respect, I hold that it doesn’t work like that.
I think you’ll find that football clubs carry out an assessment of needs exercise and decide a maximum price that they’ll pay (the buying club) and a minimum price that they’ll sell for (the selling club obviously).
If those figures meet then the player gets bought / sold and if they don’t then the selling clubs valuation is above the market value, as is often the case, and a sale doesn’t happen.
The reason for the poker playing between the parties is that there can be quite a wide crossover so that both clubs will want to maximise their position (buying club wanting to pay less than their maximum and selling club wanting to receive more than their minimum) - though it can still ultimately transpire that there’s a gap between the two.
The added complexity is that the clubs valuations can fluctuate during the process due to matters like the replacement player being more or less expensive than anticipated or the purchasing clubs alternative being more / less expensive than anticipated or simply not available etc.
The days of chairmen spitting in their palms and shaking hands on an artificial mid-point value (we want to pay 30 you want to receive 50 so let’s call it 40) are long gone - if they ever existed in the first place except in movies.
 
Yeah i think we could have upped to 40mils considering the price they are paying to Williams

Hope I'm wrong but don't think their asking price has something to do with Williams. They weren't postering in order to get Williams for 10m+5m.

Postering is not inconsequential because it sets limits to what is seen as acceptable. They won't go from 50m+ to 40m, imo.
 
There is a difference here. He hasn’t even been at Brighton a year yet, they bought him for £15 million. Clearly this is not a case of developing their own players and being adequately compensated. This is about cherry picking young European talent, showcasing them and selling for a profit. There is nothing wrong with that, but it is a bit rich complaining about the size of the profit when Brighton have done nothing with him.
As Gordon Gecko once said “greed is good” lol
 
You can say that about any player. But you still think a package of £40m is reasonable. I honestly think Cucurella deal isn't going to be about value as we don't want to sell. It therefore has to be about being Peps number 1 target. With that in mind £50m can't be out of the question. If he isn't Peps number 1 target and you only want value transfers then you will walk away.
Peps already got his top 3 targets and only 1 was over 50mil. Englands current player of the year and arguably Leeds best player was 42 mil with 3 mil add ons, haaland was 51mil and alvarez was 14 mil all three are quality signing and represent good value. Pep is the best manager he will provide a list of 3-7 targets for each position and the board will do the best deal for the club and pep knows the club has done its best and work with what he has. As I said Cucurella could be worth 50mil to you but alot less to us its all about perspective.
 
Esbrand and Ake can both do a job there as back up.

At RB we have Rico Lewis and Phillips who if asked can do a job there as back up.
This isn't a mix and match depending who is available Sunday league team...its the most talented team in Europe...let's keep it at least a little real...
 
This isn't a mix and match depending who is available Sunday league team...its the most talented team in Europe...let's keep it at least a little real...
Some stupid statement people have short memories, we won the league by the skin of our teeth in May, now suddenly Phillips or a youth team player can fill in full back, nonsense. Zinchenko has to be replaced simple
 
Am I reading too much into cancelo starting at RB and Wilson Esbrand and LB with Walker on the bench? That says to me that if we had signed or go sign Cucurella that he will start LB with Cancelo RB? Considering Cancelo was LB and Walker RB last season and both were available fir the game it seems pep is planning for Cucurella to start.
Walker played the entire 90 the other day and he is 32 regardless of how fit he is...no need to put extra miles on his legs in July...
 
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