Marc Cucurella

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philjoneswho? said:
You have a point. Before the summer before we were linked I wouldn’t have had him down anywhere near that fee.
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When we signed Walker for 50m thought that was crazy money but he's been worth every penny, that was before it was norm to be paying those prices. £40m + add ons will be a reasonable fee for Cucurella
 
The fact is, until Jesus to Arsenal (or Sterling to Chelsea) is confirmed, we don’t actually have a squad space for another signing beyond Phillips.

I would imagine once Gabby or Raz are done, we’ll see this one pick up from our side.

Whether Brighton decide they want to sell or not remains to be seen, but at the moment it’s all posturing on both sides as negotiations between the clubs haven’t formally started.
 
Nicholas van Whatsisface said:
The fact is, until Jesus to Arsenal (or Sterling to Chelsea) is confirmed, we don’t actually have a squad space for another signing beyond Phillips.

I would imagine once Gabby or Raz are done, we’ll see this one pick up from our side.

Whether Brighton decide they want to sell or not remains to be seen, but at the moment it’s all posturing on both sides as negotiations between the clubs haven’t formally started.
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Mendys place in squad is available also think we had 3 spare places last season so should be enough
 
uwe rosler 28 said:
Mendys place in squad is available also think we had 3 spare places last season so should be enough
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Not sure that’s right mate, although if you know for a fact then fair enough.

I think we had two free spots during the second half of last season (post Torres), and with Ferna leaving that makes three - were adding Haaland, Phillips and Alvarez, so we’re at the full quota.

Mendy wasn’t included in either our PL or CL Squads after January, as far as I recall, so is included in the numbers already.
 
RandomJ said:
Is it crazy money? Walker, Cancelo, he who shall not be named, chilwell, Wan-Bissaka all over £45 million. Seems to be the going rate these days for a fullback.
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For a genuinely class one, anyway. And that's not to mention three of our four centre halves, who came to us for substantially more. And the fourth, Aké, came to us for somewhat under — an estimated £41 million, so not very far away — but almost no-one was excited about his signing at the time.
 
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zebbemacahan said:
I think it is very a good sign when potential transfers go quiet, I think it means that negotiations are close to completion, and nobody has any interest of leaking anything to the press.
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I think the best almost silent transfer we ever made was Bernardo. Shame that we had to take Mendy as part of the deal, eh ;-)
North of fifty million quid for that guy. Does anyone now believe that?
 
foggy1974 said:
When we signed Walker for 50m thought that was crazy money but he's been worth every penny, that was before it was norm to be paying those prices. £40m + add ons will be a reasonable fee for Cucurella
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He’s at least as good as Ben White……..suspect that’s Bloom’s starting point.
 
Why are transfers so slow in the modern game ?? So much red type to cross, agents getting involved between selling club and buying club, the media are given a slot to when they can officially put out the transfer its all bollocks

what happened to the good old handshake or word of mouth
 
ancoats said:
Why are transfers so slow in the modern game ?? So much red type to cross, agents getting involved between selling club and buying club, the media are given a slot to when they can officially put out the transfer its all bollocks

what happened to the good old handshake or word of mouth
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Onlince social media happened
 
BringBackSwales said:
We may have to pay him legally but surely it’s up to us who we give squad spaces to?
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Had a quick Google of what would happen under employment law and it looks complicated. Dont think City would want to be taken to a tribunal for unfair dismissal. Whether City decide to register him for competitions is a different matter
 
ancoats said:
Why are transfers so slow in the modern game ?? So much red type to cross, agents getting involved between selling club and buying club, the media are given a slot to when they can officially put out the transfer its all bollocks

what happened to the good old handshake or word of mouth
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Nothing has changed its just that its more in the open nowadays. Its a lot harder nowadays to meet an agent at a motorway service station with a load of brown envelopes.
 
foggy1974 said:
Had a quick Google of what would happen under employment law and it looks complicated. Dont think City would want to be taken to a tribunal for unfair dismissal. Whether City decide to register him for competitions is a different matter
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You’d be better off googling the obligations of parties under a goods and services contract because players are contracted to supply services for a set period rather than being ‘employed’ in the traditional sense.
In most cases players are employed by their own companies or by their agents company’s and their services are sold to the clubs they play for - it’s an arrangement between companies rather than a direct employment - it makes not a lot of sense in the light of IR35 but that’s how it is.
 
OccupiedPalestineBlues said:
You’d be better off googling the obligations of parties under a goods and services contract because players are contracted to supply services for a set period rather than being ‘employed’ in the traditional sense.
In most cases players are employed by their own companies or by their agents company’s and their services are sold to the clubs they play for - it’s an arrangement between companies rather than a direct employment - it makes not a lot of sense in the light of IR35 but that’s how it is.
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HMRC put a stop to that while ago iirc
 
ancoats said:
Why are transfers so slow in the modern game ?? So much red type to cross, agents getting involved between selling club and buying club, the media are given a slot to when they can officially put out the transfer its all bollocks

what happened to the good old handshake or word of mouth
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There are vast sums of money involved and contracts have to be exact.

The days of handshakes and word of mouth are thankfully long gone, all that era makes me think of is owners like Swales and Francis Lee (not as a player obviously) and stumbling from one disaster to another.
 
LongsightM13 said:
HMRC put a stop to that while ago iirc
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Haha if that’s so then it’s about time.

I spent most of my working life employed by companies in commercial roles and steering clear of ir35 implications in employing subcontractors was one of my concerns.
I then set up my own company and sold my services into local authorities - and, out of respect for it, I always kept at least 2 clients on my books at any one time to negate ir35.
Despite all the concerns over ir35 I had plenty of peers who were employed as independent contractors to one sole organisation, often for decades without a break, but never got any grief due to it.
It was a threat hanging over sole contractors and self employed but ultimately toothless I guess.

I retired 5 years ago, in my late 50’s due to my wife’s ill health, so I’m out of date on the topic :-D
 
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