Mark Hughes On Our Owner

bluemoon32 said:
Lancet Fluke said:
He "wasn't their man" to the tune of about 150 million in the transfer market so don't really buy that. If had been able to organise a defence, he would have kept his job.

Bit harsh, similar could be said about Mancini and our midfield.

Mancini's had 3 MONTHS and has only spent only a small amount. Hughes had well over a year and spent over £150 million.

If Hughes had bought more wisely, Mancini would have better midfielders to work with<br /><br />-- Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:52 pm --<br /><br />
masterwig said:
I was a big fan and confident he'd get the team improving and have a strong second half to the season.

Can I ask why? I was the total opposite. We got by the first few games through huff and puff and scraped a few results, then we started to blow out of huff and puff and the results nose dived. At tottenham it completely fell to pieces and the only surprise for me was that it took so long
 
hbruz80 said:
oakiecokie said:
He didn,t buy Jo !!
He didn,t buy Robinho!!
They were thrust on him as a PR excecise by Shinawatra and The Sheikh.
We are now beggining to see why he wanted Lescott so much.The lad has taken off in my opinion and putting in some great performaces of late.
However you cannot fault him with some of his better buys Given,De Jong,Kompany,Bellamy.

Hughes spent 180m pounds (NOT including Jo and Robinho). I think we are all entitled to a much more balanced squad for that amount of money. As I said before, if Mancini, Mourinho, Hiddink, Del Bosque, Capello, Guardiola (and many other top coaches, i.e. people who have actually won something) had spent that amount of money there is no doubt that we would be competing for the title this season.

well said my view exactly that is the difference between a top manager and hughes.
no one will ever change my mind hughes cost us a crack at the title this season we could have caught all the top teams on the hop this year.
all the hughes innners should hang their heads in shame
 
whp.blue said:
hbruz80 said:
Hughes spent 180m pounds (NOT including Jo and Robinho). I think we are all entitled to a much more balanced squad for that amount of money. As I said before, if Mancini, Mourinho, Hiddink, Del Bosque, Capello, Guardiola (and many other top coaches, i.e. people who have actually won something) had spent that amount of money there is no doubt that we would be competing for the title this season.

well said my view exactly that is the difference between a top manager and hughes.
no one will ever change my mind hughes cost us a crack at the title this season we could have caught all the top teams on the hop this year.
all the hughes innners should hang their heads in shame

Yawn
 
GStar said:
Bigga said:
What does the "the ability to overachieve" mean when we had the best squad outside the so called Top 3??

Talk about a defeatist mentality...

He said he was asked go achieve 6th/70points.

He believed he could "over achieve" that target and reach fourth... its the opposite of defeatist. Thought he came across very well that day, he's gone now. History. But i'd applaud him if/when he comes back, didnt attempt one swipe at us and seemed genuinely happy we'd beaten Chelsea.

Just in case you,re NOT aware,Mark Hughes has been a Chelsea fan since he was a kid !!!!
 
oakiecokie said:
GStar said:
He said he was asked go achieve 6th/70points.

He believed he could "over achieve" that target and reach fourth... its the opposite of defeatist. Thought he came across very well that day, he's gone now. History. But i'd applaud him if/when he comes back, didnt attempt one swipe at us and seemed genuinely happy we'd beaten Chelsea.

Just in case you,re NOT aware,Mark Hughes has been a Chelsea fan since he was a kid !!!!

All the more reason to be impressed with his pundit role.
 
whp.blue said:
hbruz80 said:
Hughes spent 180m pounds (NOT including Jo and Robinho). I think we are all entitled to a much more balanced squad for that amount of money. As I said before, if Mancini, Mourinho, Hiddink, Del Bosque, Capello, Guardiola (and many other top coaches, i.e. people who have actually won something) had spent that amount of money there is no doubt that we would be competing for the title this season.

well said my view exactly that is the difference between a top manager and hughes.
no one will ever change my mind hughes cost us a crack at the title this season we could have caught all the top teams on the hop this year.
all the hughes innners should hang their heads in shame


Had Mancini been left with last years team and 100 million to spend we Could be lining up something like this.

Given
Maicon Kompany Dunne Bridge
Cambiasso de Jong Gago
Elano
Ibrahimovic Tevez
 
robbieh said:
whp.blue said:
well said my view exactly that is the difference between a top manager and hughes.
no one will ever change my mind hughes cost us a crack at the title this season we could have caught all the top teams on the hop this year.
all the hughes innners should hang their heads in shame


Had Mancini been left with last years team and 100 million to spend we Could be lining up something like this.

Given
Maicon Kompany Dunne Bridge
Cambiasso de Jong Gago
Elano
Ibrahimovic Tevez

I see where you are coming from but he cost £60 + Eto'o so we would need more than 100mil for that team also Elano still would only play well 5 times a season and I think it was time for Dunne to go. That said Hughes did buy poor as he left us unbalanced and with not too many value for money players
 
We might have been able to throw in Robinho as part exchange.

I think the team could look like this. However dont think it would win the league. But top four pretty much nailed on I would think.
 
Lancet Fluke said:
He "wasn't their man" to the tune of about 150 million in the transfer market so don't really buy that. If had been able to organise a defence, he would have kept his job.

I will always support whoever is in the hotseat, and was no different when Hughes was in charge, but I cant disagree with this.

Fuck me, I wish some **** would give me 150 mil to spend and not be 'their man'. They backed Hughes to the hilt up until the point they felt they couldnt afford to continue to back him. You had a fucking good crack at changing the owners mind Mr. Hughes, much, much better than some managers get.
 
robbieh said:
whp.blue said:
well said my view exactly that is the difference between a top manager and hughes.
no one will ever change my mind hughes cost us a crack at the title this season we could have caught all the top teams on the hop this year.
all the hughes innners should hang their heads in shame


Had Mancini been left with last years team and 100 million to spend we Could be lining up something like this.

Given
Maicon Kompany Dunne Bridge
Cambiasso de Jong Gago
Elano
Ibrahimovic Tevez

But he wasn,t and we wont !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Blue Hefner said:
robbieh said:
Had Mancini been left with last years team and 100 million to spend we Could be lining up something like this.

Given
Maicon Kompany Dunne Bridge
Cambiasso de Jong Gago
Elano
Ibrahimovic Tevez

I see where you are coming from but he cost £60 + Eto'o so we would need more than 100mil for that team also Elano still would only play well 5 times a season and I think it was time for Dunne to go. That said Hughes did buy poor as he left us unbalanced and with not too many value for money players

Haha, i don't... Maicon dismissed our club, not our manager, Kompany/Lesscott is better than either or with Dunne imo, Cambiasso... why because he plays for Inter? Not a chance we'd get Ibrahimovic either.

I like how you get to keep Dunne and Elano and also get to buy Tevez... its a very lop sided, inaccurate view imo.

P.S Gago is a bit shit ;)
 
GStar said:
Blue Hefner said:
I see where you are coming from but he cost £60 + Eto'o so we would need more than 100mil for that team also Elano still would only play well 5 times a season and I think it was time for Dunne to go. That said Hughes did buy poor as he left us unbalanced and with not too many value for money players

Haha, i don't... Maicon dismissed our club, not our manager, Kompany/Lesscott is better than either or with Dunne imo, Cambiasso... why because he plays for Inter? Not a chance we'd get Ibrahimovic either.

I like how you get to keep Dunne and Elano and also get to buy Tevez... its a very lop sided, inaccurate view imo.

P.S Gago is a bit shit ;)

Agreed Tevez fantastic buy by MH.

But do you think that RM could not have improved on RSC 18m, Toure 12m, Barry 12m, Lescott 20m, Adebayor 25m.
 
It could have gone either way... i remember being happy with our signings last summer and tbh i'm still pretty happy with them now. It was a logical plan which still looks like it can pay off with CL football.

other than RSC, i think every signing was more than decent (jury out on Toure)... look at Bellamy, we saw what Hughes can get out of him ,whats to saysomething similar couldn't have occured with RSC (just for arguements sake).
 
GStar said:
It could have gone either way... i remember being happy with our signings last summer and tbh i'm still pretty happy with them now. It was a logical plan which still looks like it can pay off with CL football.

other than RSC, i think every signing was more than decent (jury out on Toure)... look at Bellamy, we saw what Hughes can get out of him ,whats to saysomething similar couldn't have occured with RSC (just for arguements sake).
Thats true but its one thing to take a risk on someone for 9m in the Jan window that is at least fit at the time he was signed it's another thing to try the same thing in a summer window(when fees are lower)for 18m on a guy thats 6months away from being fit.
 
DontLookBackInAnger said:
GStar said:
It could have gone either way... i remember being happy with our signings last summer and tbh i'm still pretty happy with them now. It was a logical plan which still looks like it can pay off with CL football.

other than RSC, i think every signing was more than decent (jury out on Toure)... look at Bellamy, we saw what Hughes can get out of him ,whats to saysomething similar couldn't have occured with RSC (just for arguements sake).
Thats true but its one thing to take a risk on someone for 9m in the Jan window that is at least fit at the time he was signed it's another thing to try the same thing in a summer window(when fees are lower)for 18m on a guy thats 6months say from being fit.

True... we could have bought him for £40mil though, other than the impacts on future transfer figures, the monetary terms on one off transfer fees aren't particularly significent at our club currently.

Hughes knew exactly what he could get from RSC and i'd guess our medcial staff said his injury would heal, they just didn't say he'd get a new one every week!
 
GStar said:
DontLookBackInAnger said:
Thats true but its one thing to take a risk on someone for 9m in the Jan window that is at least fit at the time he was signed it's another thing to try the same thing in a summer window(when fees are lower)for 18m on a guy thats 6months say from being fit.

True... we could have bought him for £40mil though, other than the impacts on future transfer figures, the monetary terms on one off transfer fees aren't particularly significent at our club currently.

Hughes knew exactly what he could get from RSC and i'd guess our medcial staff said his injury would heal, they just didn't say he'd get a new one every week!
Very true!!!
 
i love this place!

how predictable is it for the swarm of locusts to come flooding in at the mention of Hughes in any topic :)
 
leewill31 said:
i love this place!

how predictable is it for the swarm of locusts to come flooding in at the mention of Hughes in any topic :)
Hughes was the most divisive appiontment the club has made in the 30 years I have been supporting city. So its hardly suprizing that would be the case.
 
DontLookBackInAnger said:
leewill31 said:
i love this place!

how predictable is it for the swarm of locusts to come flooding in at the mention of Hughes in any topic :)
Hughes was the most divisive appiontment the club has made in the 30 years I have been supporting city. So its hardly suprizing that would be the case.
the most divisive appiontment the club has made in the 30 years
No he wasn't,every poll on here & we had a fuckin lot backed him.
Have you seen the polls on mancini on other sites ??the italian would appear to be just what you you are accusing Hughes of being.
Just to clear things up, our owners when they 1st came to City bragged they would pay £100's of millions for players & pay the biggest wages to those players,it was our owners that inflated the prices of players we went for not the manager.
This manager IS the owners choice & that IS fair comment,if he delivers then fine he stays if he doesn't he will be gone & one or 2 others will follow him down the road.
To be fair he's on a hiding to nothing because changing managers in jan does not work unless of course it's to bring in Harry & the fact he doesn't know our players doesn't know the tactics used by other teams & has taken us out of 2 cup comps because of his lack of understanding of all of those points & certainly didn't know anything about shay givens big weakness doesn't bode well.
The next 3 games could kill our season, let's hope not.
 
I bet that if RSC had been fit all season then Hughes would still be in charge and we would have 4th place wrapped up and everyone would be hailing his signing. I know it. Like someone said, look what he got out of Bellers.

Either way. He's gone. Mancini is the man now, and I believe that he will do what Hughes would have done if he had stayed. CITY FOR CL!!
 

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