Martin Demichelis

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Blue Punter said:
Think we all appreciate he was filling in for injured colleagues and in the absence of a fully fit Milner was probably the best option. The system didn't help him either. Two up front and alongside Yaya who's not renowned for tracking back.

The thing I don't get is people claiming he never put a foot wrong, missed a tackle and was our MOM.

Regardless of what position he's supposed to be playing, he let Hazard bring that ball down and in from the touchline far too easily. The fact that he's a defender by trade compounds it even further. Put the ball, Hazard or preferably both into the front row . At worst give away a free kick. After that he wasn't a position to influence the game as he was too slow to get back into a central position.

Does anyone praising his performance last night believe he was in any way to blame for the goal?

He was probably on par with Yaya who couldn`t be arsed in making a tackle on Ivanovic as he shot for the goal !!
 
The truth of the matter is that MP doesn't fancy Milner as a player, and even if he was "fit" I genuinely think he would have picked MDM to start.

If Garcia had been fit clearly he would have started - and we need him to be fit for the weekend so Lescott or MDM can replace the hapless Nastasic at the back whose confidence looks shot at the minute. Probably not helped by his bollocking off vinny last night.
 
blue ranger said:
The truth of the matter is that MP doesn't fancy Milner as a player, and even if he was "fit" I genuinely think he would have picked MDM to start.

If Garcia had been fit clearly he would have started - and we need him to be fit for the weekend so Lescott or MDM can replace the hapless Nastasic at the back whose confidence looks shot at the minute. Probably not helped by his bollocking off vinny last night.

I've watched a fair bit of footy in my time and I am fucked if I can understand how Javi G and Martin D get ahead of Jimmy. Would either of the former have belted in the winner v The German Rags. Would they have been within 50 yards of the ball coming across the goal where Jimmy was sniffin' out a chance? Same with GazBaz's departure. I wish Pellers would come out with some explanation. Mystifying.
 
Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
blue ranger said:
The truth of the matter is that MP doesn't fancy Milner as a player, and even if he was "fit" I genuinely think he would have picked MDM to start.

If Garcia had been fit clearly he would have started - and we need him to be fit for the weekend so Lescott or MDM can replace the hapless Nastasic at the back whose confidence looks shot at the minute. Probably not helped by his bollocking off vinny last night.

I've watched a fair bit of footy in my time and I am fucked if I can understand how Javi G and Martin D get ahead of Jimmy. Would either of the former have belted in the winner v The German Rags. Would they have been within 50 yards of the ball coming across the goal where Jimmy was sniffin' out a chance? Same with GazBaz's departure. I wish Pellers would come out with some explanation. Mystifying.
Slightly odd logic to pick a holding midfielder on, how likely they are to appear cutting in from the left wing to finish perfectly. By that logic, maybe we should give Aguero a bash in holding midfield, as he's our best finisher. I'd definetly play Milner on the left wing ahead of Javi or MDM though
 
He's a CB and he played CM yesterday. Quite simply, I don't think even the most optimistic fan was expecting a great performance from him. That said, he made a few excellent tackles and was comfortable enough in possession. Good game for him considering the circumstances but was still the weak-point in the team.
 
oakiecokie said:
Blue Punter said:
Think we all appreciate he was filling in for injured colleagues and in the absence of a fully fit Milner was probably the best option. The system didn't help him either. Two up front and alongside Yaya who's not renowned for tracking back.

The thing I don't get is people claiming he never put a foot wrong, missed a tackle and was our MOM.

Regardless of what position he's supposed to be playing, he let Hazard bring that ball down and in from the touchline far too easily. The fact that he's a defender by trade compounds it even further. Put the ball, Hazard or preferably both into the front row . At worst give away a free kick. After that he wasn't a position to influence the game as he was too slow to get back into a central position.

Does anyone praising his performance last night believe he was in any way to blame for the goal?

He was probably on par with Yaya who couldn`t be arsed in making a tackle on Ivanovic as he shot for the goal !!
The problem was he wasn't in a position close enough to make the challenge because he never is, in situations like that and at set pieces he's as sloppy as Tiswaz custard.
 
ForzaMancini said:
He's a CB and he played CM yesterday. Quite simply, I don't think even the most optimistic fan was expecting a great performance from him. That said, he made a few excellent tackles and was comfortable enough in possession. Good game for him considering the circumstances but was still the weak-point in the team.

I thought exactly the same. He had more than an OK game. But that is just his position.
He doesn't deserve the amount of flak he is getting from all quarters.
 
blueonblue said:
That "Pony tailed twat" was our best player last night, he was all over the pitch getting tackles in and trying to get us forward, meanwhile Ya Ya was having one of his stroll about games, certainly the villan for their goal.

The simple truth is they wanted it more, we still had more than enough chances to win the game but Dzeko was truly woeful and the beast not fully fit, even Zabba was struggling at times, the season has a long way to go yet and Demichelis will be crucial.

Demechellis our best player !!!
You're having a giraffe arnt you pal ??

Cant be arsed going into detail why he wasnt our best player, i think its blatantly obvious he wasnt our best player.<br /><br />-- Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:02 pm --<br /><br />
blue ranger said:
tolmie's hairdoo said:
blue ranger said:
I just don't get it with MDM Tolm and can't see where you are coming from.
The truth is that MDM has been poor since the day we signed him. Always has a mistake in him and his habit of diving in on half way line and leaving the rest of defence exposed is comical at times. The problem we have is that Nastasic has been even worse this season and the truth is kompany has covered for both this season.

Most sane city fans know the best defending partnership we have is kompany and lescott. Unfortunately lescott has never had a run of games. Personally don't think lescott is the answer next season but he is certainly better than the other 2.

Once every city fan heard that team last night their hearts will have sunk. Everyone expected MDM and Yaya to be overrun in midfield. In truth they were. Agree MDM wasn't the worst player, nastasic, negredo etc would be at the top of that list but to say he was our top player is laughable. Navas and Hart out best 2 by some distance.


I stopped reading when you said Lescott was a better player - he's shocking!

Mancini knew it, Pellegrini already knows it - just as he knows Richards is in the same category.

Demichelis has had more good games than bad since his arrival and I am more confortable when he is in the team than any of Nasty, Lescott, Rodwell or Garcia.

If you think Demichelis wasn't outstanding against Newcastle recently, I don't know here we can find any middle ground?

Demichelis is a squad player who is being played because the manager knows he ticks more boxes than the others.

Is Demichelis the second-coming of Baresi, no.

Is he the shite he is being made out to be, far from it.

I actually said in my post tolm lescott isn't the answer long term. I'd happily let him go in the summer. But in my opinion lescott is certainly a better defender than both MDM and Nastasic. Look at the combination last night of Terry and Cahill. Hardly similar to baresi as you say but very effective as a partnership. At this moment in time, my view is that lescott should partner kompany.

Regarding middle ground, I agree MDM had a really good game at Newcastle, but that level of performance has been few and far between IMO.

Blueranger, i am in total agreement with you pal, lescott all day for me at this moment in time, i also think Its noticeable that vinnie looks more comfortable playing alongside lescott, or at least it seems that way to me .
 
He's adequate as a third choice centre half and adequate at beefing up the midfield as he did against Spurs, what he can't do is play as the sole holding midfielder against genuine quality opposition.
 
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