Martin Demichelis

[kp789]

I think this thread is starting to highlight those with football knowledge and those without much.

One single incident in an entire match does not make it a bad performance! Kompany made mistakes in that game, but was phenomenal. Messi, Xavi and Iniesta made mistakes in that game.

I have seen strikers score 4 goals in a game and miss a sitter, yet they still put in an amazing performance.

The reason that people are blaming MDM is for two reasons. Firstly, they cannot accept that City are not the greatest team in the world and were undone by a well drilled team with some of the greatest players of our generation. (Some are starting to sound like un*ted 'fans')
Secondly, certain fans already have a dislike for MDM and look for any excuse to use him as the scapegoat and blame him for anything which goes wrong.

Give your heads a wobble! He plays for City and therefore you should support him, not just wait for him to fail. It is sickening the treatment that this bloke gets of some moronic people. Applaud what he does well and encourage when he needs it.

I find it hard to think that this is the same fan base that was watching City play Crewe with me 13 years ago.

I agree with the first sentence.

You dispute that I have football knowledge? Please bring forward some evidence.

 

[TCIB]

I think this thread is starting to highlight those with football knowledge and those without much.

One single incident in an entire match does not make it a bad performance! Kompany made mistakes in that game, but was phenomenal. Messi, Xavi and Iniesta made mistakes in that game.

I have seen strikers score 4 goals in a game and miss a sitter, yet they still put in an amazing performance.

The reason that people are blaming MDM is for two reasons. Firstly, they cannot accept that City are not the greatest team in the world and were undone by a well drilled team with some of the greatest players of our generation. (Some are starting to sound like un*ted 'fans')
Secondly, certain fans already have a dislike for MDM and look for any excuse to use him as the scapegoat and blame him for anything which goes wrong.

Give your heads a wobble! He plays for City and therefore you should support him, not just wait for him to fail. It is sickening the treatment that this bloke gets of some moronic people. Applaud what he does well and encourage when he needs it.

I find it hard to think that this is the same fan base that was watching City play Crewe with me 13 years ago.

I agree with this and especially the bit about not being best.

Half those who slated him will calm down and see reason but some as you say will just be blind to the good stuff and attack him for any errors.
Criticism is fine but some of the comments on here say more about the posters ideals than MD if i am being truthful.

 

[the old abbey]

Fact is hes a liability.everyone other than pellegrini were worried about mdm playing a centre back.he was found out with the lack of pace in timing the tackle.we should of broke the bank in january for a class centre half. that could become our downfall in Europe and possibly the premiership.

-- Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:09 pm --

Fact is hes a liability.everyone other than pellegrini were worried about mdm playing a centre back.he was found out with the lack of pace in timing the tackle.we should of broke the bank in january for a class centre half. that could become our downfall in Europe abd possibly the premiership.

Just to highlight a couple of things firstly you have no proof that this is a fact all you have is 1 bad judgement and a poor game when he was left wanting by Yaya.

Also all the best CB were already playing in the CL so too late for this season

Course ive proof.seen every game of his since sep thats proof enough to know the guys a liabilty.he aint good enough comprende! As for breaking the bank money talks.<br /><br />-- Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:25 pm --<br /><br />

Fact is hes a liability.everyone other than pellegrini were worried about mdm playing a centre back.he was found out with the lack of pace in timing the tackle.we should of broke the bank in january for a class centre half. that could become our downfall in Europe and possibly the premiership.

-- Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:09 pm --

Fact is hes a liability.everyone other than pellegrini were worried about mdm playing a centre back.he was found out with the lack of pace in timing the tackle.we should of broke the bank in january for a class centre half. that could become our downfall in Europe abd possibly the premiership.

Just to highlight a couple of things firstly you have no proof that this is a fact all you have is 1 bad judgement and a poor game when he was left wanting by Yaya.

Also all the best CB were already playing in the CL so too late for this season

Course ive proof.seen every game of his since sep thats proof enough to know the guys a liabilty.he aint good enough comprende! As for breaking the bank money talks.

 

[Lucky Toma]

I should point out in addition to my earlier post that I've never before criticised Demichelis on here or anywhere else and I certainly wont be considering him a liability for any future games based upon one incident.

But when someone royally fucks up in such an important fixture I think its fair to be extremely frustrated and angry about it.

 

[BigOscar]

Pretty surprising that you'd say people are blaming him for two reasons, then neither of those two reasons being that he got himself sent off and cost us the game? I'm pretty sure that's most peoples main reason for blaming him.

 

[kp789]

I think this thread is starting to highlight those with football knowledge and those without much.

One single incident in an entire match does not make it a bad performance! Kompany made mistakes in that game, but was phenomenal. Messi, Xavi and Iniesta made mistakes in that game.

I have seen strikers score 4 goals in a game and miss a sitter, yet they still put in an amazing performance.

The reason that people are blaming MDM is for two reasons. Firstly, they cannot accept that City are not the greatest team in the world and were undone by a well drilled team with some of the greatest players of our generation. (Some are starting to sound like un*ted 'fans')
Secondly, certain fans already have a dislike for MDM and look for any excuse to use him as the scapegoat and blame him for anything which goes wrong.

Give your heads a wobble! He plays for City and therefore you should support him, not just wait for him to fail. It is sickening the treatment that this bloke gets of some moronic people. Applaud what he does well and encourage when he needs it.

I find it hard to think that this is the same fan base that was watching City play Crewe with me 13 years ago.

I agree with this and especially the bit about not being best.

Half those who slated him will calm down and see reason but some as you say will just be blind to the good stuff and attack him for any errors.
Criticism is fine but some of the comments on here say more about the posters ideals than MD if i am being truthful.

It as if because he is not at the same standard as Kompany (Lets be honest, only a hanful of CB's are) everything he does wrong is scrutinised and slated. These people have expectations that he should be some sort of Baresi character to partner Kompany and whenever he does anything that does not fit this defensive 'ideal' he is slated.

 

[Chippy_boy]

So the reason I'm blaming him for our defeat is not because I consider us the greatest team in the world - as you state - but rather because he was to blame.

You have to agree with this. Had Kompany made this challenge he would have got slated for it as well. It was a stupid thing to do and with MDM's age and experience, he really should have known better.

 

[Lucky Toma]

So the reason I'm blaming him for our defeat is not because I consider us the greatest team in the world - as you state - but rather because he was to blame.

You have to agree with this. Had Kompany made this challenge he would have got slated for it as well. It was a stupid thing to do and with MDM's age and experience, he really should have known better.

I can see KP's point in that if Kompany had done similar any criticism would have been very much tempered with frsutration rather than ire. But that's because Vinnie has been largely outstanding for us for several seasons whereas Dimichelis has not. One has earned the right to avoid outright castigation after a cock-up, the other has not.

I see his point but dont understand why he thinks this is so unfair. Its the same for all of life - you make more allowances for those you have greater feeling/respect for.

 

[the originalkippaxman]

Fact is hes a liability.everyone other than pellegrini were worried about mdm playing a centre back.he was found out with the lack of pace in timing the tackle.we should of broke the bank in january for a class centre half. that could become our downfall in Europe and possibly the premiership.

-- Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:09 pm --

Fact is hes a liability.everyone other than pellegrini were worried about mdm playing a centre back.he was found out with the lack of pace in timing the tackle.we should of broke the bank in january for a class centre half. that could become our downfall in Europe abd possibly the premiership.

Just to highlight a couple of things firstly you have no proof that this is a fact all you have is 1 bad judgement and a poor game when he was left wanting by Yaya.

Also all the best CB were already playing in the CL so too late for this season

Course ive proof.seen every game of his since sep thats proof enough to know the guys a liabilty.he aint good enough comprende! As for breaking the bank money talks.

-- Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:25 pm --

Fact is hes a liability.everyone other than pellegrini were worried about mdm playing a centre back.he was found out with the lack of pace in timing the tackle.we should of broke the bank in january for a class centre half. that could become our downfall in Europe and possibly the premiership.

-- Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:09 pm --

Fact is hes a liability.everyone other than pellegrini were worried about mdm playing a centre back.he was found out with the lack of pace in timing the tackle.we should of broke the bank in january for a class centre half. that could become our downfall in Europe abd possibly the premiership.

Just to highlight a couple of things firstly you have no proof that this is a fact all you have is 1 bad judgement and a poor game when he was left wanting by Yaya.

Also all the best CB were already playing in the CL so too late for this season

Course ive proof.seen every game of his since sep thats proof enough to know the guys a liabilty.he aint good enough comprende! As for breaking the bank money talks.

Unfortunately it isn't proof that is just your opinion. You stated you had facts but actually you don't you just have a point of view.
Facts are when you can add something to a debate and show the evidence at hand that he is a liability. What is a fact is that you have nothing but your opinion which means nothing. For all I know you could say that Lescott is by far a better defender. Then in my opinion I would say you are fucking clueless and your previous post is void.
However I don't have facts to prove that you are fucking clueless. I shall just leave this for you to keep posting and prove this yourself.

 

[aguero93:20]

Just to highlight a couple of things firstly you have no proof that this is a fact all you have is 1 bad judgement and a poor game when he was left wanting by Yaya.

Also all the best CB were already playing in the CL so too late for this season

Course ive proof.seen every game of his since sep thats proof enough to know the guys a liabilty.he aint good enough comprende! As for breaking the bank money talks.

-- Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:25 pm --

Just to highlight a couple of things firstly you have no proof that this is a fact all you have is 1 bad judgement and a poor game when he was left wanting by Yaya.

Also all the best CB were already playing in the CL so too late for this season

Course ive proof.seen every game of his since sep thats proof enough to know the guys a liabilty.he aint good enough comprende! As for breaking the bank money talks.

Unfortunately it isn't proof that is just your opinion. You stated you had facts but actually you don't you just have a point of view.
Facts are when you can add something to a debate and show the evidence at hand that he is a liability. What is a fact is that you have nothing but your opinion which means nothing. For all I know you could say that Lescott is by far a better defender. Then in my opinion I would say you are fucking clueless and your previous post is void.
However I don't have facts to prove that you are fucking clueless. I shall just leave this for you to keep posting and prove this yourself.

Has to be done, sorry!

Liability
A comprehensive legal term that describes the condition of being actually or potentially subject to a legal obligation.

Joint liability is an obligation for which more than one person is responsible.

Joint and several liability refers to the status of those who are responsible together as one unit as well as individually for their conduct. The person who has been harmed can institute a lawsuit and recover from any or all of the wrongdoers—but cannot receive double compensation, for instance, the full amount of recovery from each of two wrongdoers.

Primary liability is an obligation for which a person is directly responsible; it is distinguished from secondary liability which is the responsibility of another if the party directly responsible fails or refuses to satisfy his or her obligation.