Martin Samuel: The plot to shackle City & Chelsea

[ali benarbia's studs]

Re: The plot to shackle City & Chelsea

In tomorrow's Mail...

Notice they have the only still image that shows Kompany with 2 feet off the ground!

this is a joke can someone tell me please how i could tackle with one foot on the ground.....i `d bet i`d be knocked over off balance and i`d be on my "tail end".

it s impossible to tackle without it happening......yet 2feet off the ground is been thrown around all over the place.

i would love to see how many stills "pics" we have of airborne players tackling.....how many were sent off?????? 2 feet off the ground does not suffice to a red, nor should the term be accepted.

it would be different if the player went over the ball,but that should be addressed when it happens!

 

[mancity1]

As Chelski and City have stadiums that house approx 42k and 47k I would be more happy to look at Manure /Arses concerns if they had to limit attendances to those amounts at their home games and ensure entry prices were no higher than those of Chelski's and Cities.

Let's see them whinge about that directive which makes more sense than what they are proposing.

If a club chooses to and is in a position to underwrite operating losses then so be it.

Most clubs run at an operating loss year in year out.

 

[waspish]

Re: Martin Samuel: The plot to shackle City & Chelsea

In tomorrow's Mail...

Notice they have the only still image that shows Kompany with 2 feet off the ground!

this is a joke can someone tell me please how i could tackle with one foot on the ground.....i `d bet i`d be knocked over off balance and i`d be on my "tail end".

it s impossible to tackle without it happening......yet 2feet off the ground is been thrown around all over the place.

i would love to see how many stills "pics" we have of airborne players tackling.....how many were sent off?????? 2 feet off the ground does not suffice to a red, nor should the term be accepted.

it would be different if the player went over the ball,but that should be addressed when it happens!

Yep totally agree but when the footage gets assessed they will look at it in super slow motion all angles and they could say it was reckless and dangerous play! For me it was a great tackle and shouldn't of even been booked..

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

It is not just that, When Vinnies leading foot connected with the ball, his right leg was actually trailing

I can understand the decision of the ref with the angle he had, the movement of Wilshere going over made it look worse. Also the apparent actions that i have been told about did not help the matter either - Wilshere was apparently stating to the ref that it was 2-footed (which pictures show it wasn't) then applauded the sending off.

Now as the game went on (post sending off of Kosceinly) we were in total control of the game, however the actions of a few arsenal players was totally over the top.
They felt hard done by by his dismissal, which of course was justified anyway as it was a clear rugby tackle on dzeko, Every freekick that went against or for them they were berating the ref and constantly ranting.

The appeal should clear Vinny no doubt, but if it doesn't then defenders may as well call it a day.

 

[Anonymous]

morals in football.

An oxymoron if I ever I saw one right there Cleavers ... :)

 

[M18CTID]

Get yourselves on the DM comments page relating to this article. It's awash with idiots claiming that Arsenal, United, and Liverpool have all grown totally organically down the years while totally ignoring that all three of those clubs have benefitted from outside investment in the past!

 

[OB1]

Simple answer:

ALL CLUB REVENUES from all 20 Premier League teams pooled and shared EQUALLY........BUT ONLY AFTER every club has spent as much as the HIGHEST PREMIER LEAGUE SPENDER HAS SPENT IN THE LAST 20 YEARS OF THE PREMIER LEAGUE (and who would that be????).

And NO-ONE can exceed that amount UNTIL the last club has spent that much money, which means one club can spend NOTHING, and others are limited until the rest catch up!

You want a socialist system, then do it THE WHOLE WAY. If you want a CAPITALIST SYSTEM, THAT UTILIZES CAPITALIST BUSINESS PRINCIPLES OF INVEST FOR LONG TERM SUCCESS, then leave the fuck alone and let the chips fall where they may.

Anything in-between is just a game meant to advantage those who have already SPENT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS to put them on top of the revenue pile, and thus cut everyone else of at the knees.

Fucking joke!

UEFA's socialism, and social conscience, appears not to extend to their own finances. They don't allow alcohol served at games, yet one of their largest sponsors is Heineken!?! Fucking hypocrites! Why not espouse ONLY Heineken at least?! Nah, that would not be "Nanny-State" enough!

Did I mention...fucking joke! The lot of them....FIFA, UEFA, The FA!! Old white men counting their pieces of silver behind closed (and locked) doors!

Sadly, some clubs just want an oligopoly but won't admit it.

How soon before The Rags start agitating to negotiate their own TV deals a la Madrid and Barcelona, the ability to do that, by the way, being one of the reasons that UEFA's FFPR are really FUPR (or should that just be FUBAR?).

 

[cibaman]

Interesting couple of articles in The Times today on the subject. They suggest that the majority of PL clubs are more interested in "FFPR Lite " than the Gang of Four's proposals.

Apparently the likes of Wigan and West Ham believe that UEFA's propsals will eventually put a brake on City and Chelsea's spending. And, whilst they do not want all of the extra telly money to go to the players, they certainly do not want to discourage outside investment.

 

[Anonymous]

Get yourselves on the DM comments page relating to this article. It's awash with idiots claiming that Arsenal, United, and Liverpool have all grown totally organically down the years while totally ignoring that all three of those clubs have benefitted from outside investment in the past!

Looks like someone has!

All this organic growth without any assistance from anyone. If I was John Henry Davies, Danny Fiszman or a member of the Moore's family, I'd be offended.
- libano, Mcr, United Kingdom, 15/1/2013 11:43

 

[fbloke]

If you think further ahead FFPR might help secure a couple more years of PL football for the likes of Wigan but it also means that the club itself becomes of little interest to a man like Sheikh Mansour.

Why buy Wigan when you cant do what Sheikh Mansour has at City?

Why buy Everton? Why but Stoke?

These are the sorts of middling clubs who, with some investment could become truly competitive but whose future would be already written, the current owner hamstrung by FFPR.

But Whelan, Coates and the likes need to ask what will happen to their beloved clubs when they move on?

Who will buy if they cant invest to get competitive?