Marxism

Ancient Citizen said:
ChicagoBlue said:
Yeah....no poor, hard working people in the world, eh?! You know, other than the BILLIONS outside of the supposedly First World kleptocracies, of course!

WTF kind of "intellect" believes that "capitalist" shit? Show me the people at the top who pulled themselves up by the bootstraps and I will show you 10 silver spoons for every last one of them....and I won't have to go looking for them, either!

Are there some boots trappers at the top? Absolutely! But to suggest that the game is not rigged is farcical!
Bullshit.
There are plenty of self made billionaires, tell us how Alan Sugar became one. Anwar Pervez, brought up in poverty, Charlie Mullins, left school at 15, now a billionaire after an apprentice plumber background. There are many more in Britain alone, there will be dozens in your country, your silver spoon analogy may indeed include inherited wealth, but as an example of capitalism only making the privileged few rich, it is envy ridden nonsense.

Bullshit? You just made my point! You throw out a few bootstrappers as some example of how it is possible. Excellent! Now, tell me again about the tens of millions of others who work their arse off every day and haven't made it onto your list of...three!

I reposted the relevant part in blue for you, just in case, in your zeal to defend the game, you forgot which one we were playing!

Oh yeah...I'm not a billionaire, with a B, but I'm not the envy ridden prole you take me for. And, I wear the bootstraps proudly, but that doesn't mean I don't understand the game is one sided against most of us.
 
SWP's back said:
ChicagoBlue said:
Yeah....no poor, hard working people in the world, eh?! You know, other than the BILLIONS outside of the supposedly First World kleptocracies, of course!

WTF kind of "intellect" believes that "capitalist" shit? Show me the people at the top who pulled themselves up by the bootstraps and I will show you 10 silver spoons for every last one of them....and I won't have to go looking for them, either!

Are there some boots trappers at the top? Absolutely! But to suggest that the game is not rigged is farcical!
Work hard or work smart. Choice is the individuals.

Choice. Interesting concept that is sadly lacking from the lives of billions of people....unless, of course, by "choice" you mean life or death and not Battersea Power or Knightsbridge.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Ancient Citizen said:
ChicagoBlue said:
Yeah....no poor, hard working people in the world, eh?! You know, other than the BILLIONS outside of the supposedly First World kleptocracies, of course!

WTF kind of "intellect" believes that "capitalist" shit? Show me the people at the top who pulled themselves up by the bootstraps and I will show you 10 silver spoons for every last one of them....and I won't have to go looking for them, either!

Are there some boots trappers at the top? Absolutely! But to suggest that the game is not rigged is farcical!
Bullshit.
There are plenty of self made billionaires, tell us how Alan Sugar became one. Anwar Pervez, brought up in poverty, Charlie Mullins, left school at 15, now a billionaire after an apprentice plumber background. There are many more in Britain alone, there will be dozens in your country, your silver spoon analogy may indeed include inherited wealth, but as an example of capitalism only making the privileged few rich, it is envy ridden nonsense.

Bullshit? You just made my point! You throw out a few bootstrappers as some example of how it is possible. Excellent! Now, tell me again about the tens of millions of others who work their arse off every day and haven't made it onto your list of...three!

I reposted the relevant part in blue for you, just in case, in your zeal to defend the game, you forgot which one we were playing!

Oh yeah...I'm not a billionaire, with a B, but I'm not the envy ridden prole you take me for. And, I wear the bootstraps proudly, but that doesn't mean I don't understand the game is one sided against most of us.
If you truly believe that tens of millions are prevented from being billionaires then you have exceeded the bounds of bullshit. Tens of millions are not billionaires because they have been prevented from doing so by some unseen diktat, unless you're talking of communism, which does indeed prevent it. I listed three, simply because I couldn't be arsed writing out lists, but informed you of dozens more, there are also hundreds, if not thousands of others who may not be billionaires but have made dozens of millions, by virtue of the system in place. How did these people do it?
What, exactly is stopping you from becoming very rich? Let's hear about how America quashes and suppresses ambition and drive, it should be an eye opener.
 

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