Mata ... Available ..... Really ?

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mike channon´s windmill said:
sam-caddick said:
Looks like Mourinho doesn't fancy him, I was astonished to not see him at least come of the bench tonight.

Chelsea won't sell to a PL rival though.
Atletico have been linked again today and the chairman Cerezo didn´t do much to deny any interest - it sounded like an imminent bid may be in the offing
Would make Atleti serious contenders for the title and not a bad outside bet in the CL either

Think contenders for the title is a stretch but it would certainly make them more of a force.
 
mike channon´s windmill said:
sam-caddick said:
Looks like Mourinho doesn't fancy him, I was astonished to not see him at least come of the bench tonight.

Chelsea won't sell to a PL rival though.
Atletico have been linked again today and the chairman Cerezo didn´t do much to deny any interest - it sounded like an imminent bid may be in the offing
Would make Atleti serious contenders for the title and not a bad outside bet in the CL either

Atletico are looking for a loan, madness if it goes through.
 
I am surprised at how many people are surprised with Mourinho's dislike for Mata. Mourinho doesn't like midfielders like that; instead, Mourinho prefers midfielders who fight hard and are successful on the defensive end, not just on the offensive end. Also, Lampard and Mata didn't play all that well together last year, and Mourinho loves Lampard and is known to be loyal to the players with whom he established connections in the past.

So, I wouldn't be surprised one bit if Chelsea sold Mata. Now, do we need him? Nope, not at all. He is too similar of a player to the ones we already have in the squad. Also, he is most effective when the ball is played through him at all times and I just don't see him and Silva on the pitch at the same time, whatsoever. Buying Mata would be a complete waste of resources. Better invest in CB.
 
Castiel said:
Impeccable One said:
My thinking as well. And would say Mata means more to Chelsea than Rooney does to United, taking in to account his shitty attitude and desire to leave.

But I can't get my head around all this mention of bids/offers for Mata. Normally no smoke without fire ?
It started with Marca trying to undermine Mourinho since Mata is Spanish. Since Marca is Madrid's mouthpiece it probably indicated that they were interested in grabbing him if it was at all possible but those rumours of a supposed rift were quickly shot down seeing as they'd never even met.

Then United decided to lie to the press and tell them that we offered him in a part exchange for Rooney. Presumably some genius in their camp thought it'd be a clever way of telling us to back off, and it backfired on them. Both a club statement and a Mourinho press conference have categorically denied it and reaffirmed that he's not for sale.

Wouldn't United offer Rooney in part exchange for Mata ?
 
ifiwasarichfan said:
Castiel said:
Impeccable One said:
My thinking as well. And would say Mata means more to Chelsea than Rooney does to United, taking in to account his shitty attitude and desire to leave.

But I can't get my head around all this mention of bids/offers for Mata. Normally no smoke without fire ?
It started with Marca trying to undermine Mourinho since Mata is Spanish. Since Marca is Madrid's mouthpiece it probably indicated that they were interested in grabbing him if it was at all possible but those rumours of a supposed rift were quickly shot down seeing as they'd never even met.

Then United decided to lie to the press and tell them that we offered him in a part exchange for Rooney. Presumably some genius in their camp thought it'd be a clever way of telling us to back off, and it backfired on them. Both a club statement and a Mourinho press conference have categorically denied it and reaffirmed that he's not for sale.

Wouldn't United offer Rooney in part exchange for Mata ?


Looks like Rooney is staying at United now but with this Bale rumour knocking about it does make me wonder whether Rooney would be offered to Spurs as bait*.




*It's at times like this where I wish I was a dab hand at Photoshop and knew how to stick Rooney's face on a fish.
 
I like Samir a lot, think he is a very gifted footballer, but I'd swap him for Mata without even thinking about it.
 
shadowyu said:
I am surprised at how many people are surprised with Mourinho's dislike for Mata. Mourinho doesn't like midfielders like that; instead, Mourinho prefers midfielders who fight hard and are successful on the defensive end, not just on the offensive end. Also, Lampard and Mata didn't play all that well together last year, and Mourinho loves Lampard and is known to be loyal to the players with whom he established connections in the past.

So, I wouldn't be surprised one bit if Chelsea sold Mata. Now, do we need him? Nope, not at all. He is too similar of a player to the ones we already have in the squad. Also, he is most effective when the ball is played through him at all times and I just don't see him and Silva on the pitch at the same time, whatsoever. Buying Mata would be a complete waste of resources. Better invest in CB.

Mourinho's attraction to the past (and former glories) could be costly; he is building his side around Terry and Lampard (again) but I'm not sure either is up to a 50 game season - he may need a plan B by Christmas - he needs to remember 5 years have elapsed since he was last here. I wasn't particularly impressed by Chelsea last night - then again they can defend a corner!
 
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