Matheus Nunes

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Fordyboy46 said:
If we keep on going with this method though, we will probably never sign a top Premier league player ever again. Kovacic seemed to be easy as Chelsea had to have a fire sale, and seemingly were happy to accept a lower fee. Sometimes you have to accept a rival teams fee they've put on a player
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Wurtz is the one next summer, but we will have to blow the doors off the safe to make sure we get that deal done.

And for me he IS a player paying over the sticker price is more that justifiable.
 
Coatigan said:
Did the club ask him to refuse to train?

If he wants to gamble a week's wages on a potential move of a lifetime, call in sick with a headache, or do whatever he wants with his life, how is that a bad look for the club?
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The answer to that is yes there manger came out after the game and explained why he isn't training with first team
 
Really don’t understand city’s thinking here. kovacic will very likely get injured at some point just look at his past injury record. We will then be down to the absolute bare minimum. Not to mention we are absolutely flogging rodri, that is not sustainable and will catch up with him.
 
Keeper! said:
Very true, this break could do wonders for him, he has looked a very tired man for a long time.

A nice long break with his family before the start of rehab is one positive in all of this.
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I’ve still got faith the Nunes deal will get done anyway, in which case I’d be more than happy with the way we finish the window, plus we’d still have a gap in the squad list for a potential last minute loan or a January purchase.
 
Keeper! said:
"The price for Rice was extortionate; an excellent player but £105m is too much, and we got arsenal to pay it"

100% it was, but he was NEVER going to be sold to us for 85M or whatever we bid, we knew, they knew and Arsenal Knew.

So why bid?

Txiki taking the proverbial?
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Not at all. No way is Rice a £105m player and no way at the start of this window was anyone saying £85m is a daft price for Rice and I don’t think many people were suggesting he is worth £105m.
 
BringBackSwales said:
The price for Rice was extortionate; an excellent player but £105m is too much, and we got arsenal to pay it.

The price for Gvardiol was brilliant negotiation, we got him for a good bit less than expected and got him for the start of the season.

Paqueta looks like we negotiated what we thought was a fair price that we were prepared to pay, nothing we could then do about the gambling allegations, completely beyond our control.

Nunes - we offered £47m, they rejected it and have been posturing about £60m. We probably think that’s too high (I say probably because none of us know) and are most likely negotiating that down a bit - if we are then I think that’s sensible, and it will PROBABLY get sorted in the next 3 days

People also forget we snapped up one of the best midfielders in the PL for a snip at £25m very early in the window.

We got Doku for £55m without too much fuss - compared to the average players chelsea have been spending a billion on I am very happy with that purchase

On top of that we persuaded Bernardo, Kyle and Ortega to stay with us.

I think we have conducted our transfer business pretty well this summer, like we always do - just look at our squad, brimming with quality, Pep not looking for quantity
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None of that is my point really. Bidding once and then just not going in again would be odd.
 
Let me be serious, I don't understand Txiki.

Didn't you hear the interviews of the players, especially what Rodri said?

Wouldn't the Physio team have issued a warning? Small squad?

What the hell is a small squad for? Will board members regret after their injuries?
 
not my fault! said:
It’s not a strange tactic, we are a business and are run like one. We offer what we deem a fair price, if it’s acceptable then great, if not we move on. We bid because we are interested, and maybe we are trying to bring prices down to realistic levels again rather than adding to the problem by just agreeing and paying or inflating them further.
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And more to the point, clubs know we won't just pull our keks down to be dry bummed when going in for one of their players; the price has to meet our expectations. Caving in to whatever the selling club demands has consequences further down the line.
 
It does frustrate me that city are so quick to to brag about how much money they have made from selling x,y and z academy products. It just stinks of a very insecure mindset, a desperation to be accepted & admired by the wide football community. We all know that won’t ever happen and the narrative we just spend spend spend will continue.

This transfer window hasn’t gone well and as a result we may just have to suck it up and slightly overpay for Nunes. The market has changed and we will not get worldwide acclaim for refusing to pay above our valuation. Just feels like cutting our nose to spite our face.

As it stands we haven’t got the squad capable of competing for all 4 competitions (which is clearly the clubs aim). An injury to rodri and the season could be similar to the 2019/20 campaign. We have yet another chance to make history by becoming the first side to win 4 prem titles in a row. I just don’t understand why city seemingly are willing to put that achievement in serious jeopardy by hampering pep and weakening the squad.
 
Fordyboy46 said:
If we keep on going with this method though, we will probably never sign a top Premier league player ever again. Kovacic seemed to be easy as Chelsea had to have a fire sale, and seemingly were happy to accept a lower fee. Sometimes you have to accept a rival teams fee they've put on a player
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Not signing top premier league players has worked so far.Who are the top players we have missed out on surely not Maguire.
 
BlueDejong said:
Let me be serious, I don't understand Txiki.

Didn't you hear the interviews of the players, especially what Rodri said?

Wouldn't the Physio team have issued a warning? Small squad?

What the hell is a small squad for? Will board members regret after their injuries?
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For that very reason i think this transfer gets done, i personally think the club are sorting out any Doyle and Mcatee moves.
 
BringBackSwales said:
Not sure why there’s so much crying in here. Pep has always said he likes playing with a small squad and v last season we’ve got -

Gundogan
Mahrez
Laporte

Replaced with

Kovacic
Gvardiol
Doku

I still think Nunes will come in this week. So basically that’s 1 more senior player, with the obvious downside that KDB is injured for a few months but on the upside Palmer looks capable of delivering more than last season, and MacAtee is available and capable. Cancelo I don’t count as he wasn’t here for the second half of last season.

Also the upsides of keeping Kyle, Bernardo and Ortega, who all looked like they were leaving at one stage, is huge.

Not getting the same despondent feelings as so many in here.
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Also McAtee and Palmer could step up. Not saying they will but they’re both talented lads. I’d love to see Phillips come good as well. The latter I’m less confident of but if he could return to the form he showed for England and indeed against us when they beat us with 10 men he’d be a valuable asset
 
dancity19 said:
None of that is my point really. Bidding once and then just not going in again would be odd.
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None of us KNOW what discussions are ongoing and how we are dealing with Wolves public declaration of wanting £60m, but with 3 days of the window left I am relaxed.

I wasn’t answering just you but the general tone of this thread.

Not a comprehensive list but:-

Ederson
Ortega
Walker
Stones
Dias
Gvardiol
Akanji
Bernardo
KDB
Haaland
Alvarez
Kovacic
Rodri
Etc

Not to mention the value we got out of Jesus, Sterling, Laporte, Mahrez, Zinchenko, Gundogan, Torres etc who all decided to move on after brilliant contributions to us.

Significantly outweighs

Mendy
Phillips

Name me any director of football who has delivered quality and value like that over the last 10 or so years? Fucking brilliant squad, but just because a couple of transfers are taking longer than the needy posters of a football forum apparently Txikki isn’t very good at his job. I’d say he was a fucking genius. Look at the shit chelsea and united spend billions on
 
We were willing to pay around 80m for Lucas Paqueta.

We aren't willing to pay 60m for Nunes.

That says to me the club don't particularly rate him that highly.

It seems to me as if it's the agent that has come to Manchester City in the first place to try and strike a deal for his client.

It does make me scratch my head why we haven't gone abroad like we did with Doku to buy a midfield player for a better price.

Are the scouts not doing a good enough job?
 
BringBackSwales said:
Not at all. No way is Rice a £105m player and no way at the start of this window was anyone saying £85m is a daft price for Rice and I don’t think many people were suggesting he is worth £105m.
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I said it was a crazy price for a no more than decent player so why did we get involved?
 
BlueDejong said:
Let me be serious, I don't understand Txiki.

Didn't you hear the interviews of the players, especially what Rodri said?

Wouldn't the Physio team have issued a warning? Small squad?

What the hell is a small squad for? Will board members regret after their injuries?
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Let me be serious, Txiki isn't judge, jury and executioner. Hope that helps.
 
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