Maths for Children

[kinkladze10]

Ex went to parents evening and teacher said her Maths was not so great (obviously). She is doing really well though she always does well with her key words,alphabet,reading,spelling writing a simple Maths sum and workout the answer with her fingers and stuff, which is what I've tought her and the school mainley. I just have no idea on how to teach her the times tables, some good tips on here and I've been on google and stuff.

 

[117 M34]

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Try these if you want - I wouldn't actually be too concerned yet though, if they are expecting reception children to know 2x tables then it must be a very high performing school/affluent area.

 

[LittleStan]

Ex went to parents evening and teacher said her Maths was not so great (obviously). She is doing really well though she always does well with her key words,alphabet,reading,spelling writing a simple Maths sum and workout the answer with her fingers and stuff, which is what I've tought her and the school mainley. I just have no idea on how to teach her the times tables, some good tips on here and I've been on google and stuff.

My kids school invited parents in one night to teach us how they were teaching the kids. See if yours does something similar and then you know that you will be complementing what they do.

 

[pauldominic]

Lmao indeed.

First post: -

I make it £22.

A bottle of wine at 12% = 9 units.

440/750=0.59
5.2/12=0.43

0.43*0.59*9=2.28
2.28*24=54.72
54.72*0.4 = £22

PM to SWP: -

The penny dropped last night. My arithmetic is correct but poorly explained, so here is a clearer explanation: -

A 750ml bottle of wine rated at 12%ABV being 9 units is a reliable standard.
A can of stella is 440mls at 5.2%ABV

Hence in order to calculate the minimum price of a 24 pack of Stella requires adjustment calculations based on volume and %ABV

440mls / 750mls = 0.59
5.2% / 12% = 0.43

Hence a can of stella = 0.59*0.43*9 = 2.3 units.

Multiplied by 24 cans and 40p a unit this comes to £22.08

Obscure engineering logic I admit.

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We're almost friends because in a strange way he thinks like I do but we're frequently on a different wavelength.

Using your numbers I get the same answer Although.

1 unit = 10ml of pure alcohol.

So a 440ml can of Stella at 5.2% = (440/100)*5.2= 22.88ml of pure alcohol or 2.288 units per can

So 2.288 * 24 = 54.912 units

So 54.912 * 0.40p = 21.9648 or £21.97 for a minimum price.

Is Stella still 5.2% or is it 5% as that would give you a minimum price of £21.12 ?

Who cares?

EDIT: I'll have to recalibrate and a litre of pocheen almost makes that standard.

Personally I prefer mine.

 

[law74]

If you can afford some private tuition then this lot http://www.kumon.co.uk/ have a good reputation.

With times tables though it's really just about repetition. That's the way I learned them and no doubt a few others of a certain age on here. I know 7x9 is 63 and 9x12 is 108 without thinking. I don't need to know why; I just need to know it is.

Yet when my daughter (who has an A in A-Level Maths) did her times tables, they were taught to memorise the result only. So for the 2 times table it was 2, 4, 6, 8, etc. So if she needed to work out 2x6 she had to count 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12. and that was at a very good primary school. To me that's completely stupid.

Learning things parrot-fashion may be completely at odds with modern learning methods, where it's seemingly more important for kids to "express" themselves than actually learn facts, but it certainly works for times tables.

Kumon teach using methods which are very different to 'normal' and won't suit all children.

I wouldn't worry about her not knowing times tables at 4, many in my class don't know them and they are older than that.

Not sure what class you are in mate, but don't worry too much about the sums, your typed English is very good for someone at primary school.

 

[IM NOT REALLY HERE]

Learning must be fun at that age.
I got my kids a mini whiteboard and some whiteboard markers. We also use the change from the copper jar as counters.
Also some blocks that connect, so they can see that 2 lots of 2 is four and so on.

 

[117 M34]

If you can afford some private tuition then this lot http://www.kumon.co.uk/ have a good reputation.

With times tables though it's really just about repetition. That's the way I learned them and no doubt a few others of a certain age on here. I know 7x9 is 63 and 9x12 is 108 without thinking. I don't need to know why; I just need to know it is.

Yet when my daughter (who has an A in A-Level Maths) did her times tables, they were taught to memorise the result only. So for the 2 times table it was 2, 4, 6, 8, etc. So if she needed to work out 2x6 she had to count 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12. and that was at a very good primary school. To me that's completely stupid.

Learning things parrot-fashion may be completely at odds with modern learning methods, where it's seemingly more important for kids to "express" themselves than actually learn facts, but it certainly works for times tables.

Kumon teach using methods which are very different to 'normal' and won't suit all children.

I wouldn't worry about her not knowing times tables at 4, many in my class don't know them and they are older than that.

Not sure what class you are in mate, but don't worry too much about the sums, your typed English is very good for someone at primary school.

I try my best!

 

[cbeebies is poo]

There is loads of stuff on the net. BBC site very good. If its fun they will learn.
Although like others have said, I really wouldn't worry yet. Reception us about play and donut should be until they are 7-8 even, with elements of learning basic maths and literacy skills as they go along.

There is plenty of research shows that one of the few things we blokes grasp better than women is maths. Literacy seems to be more there bag. If your daughter is a Aug birthday and someone in the class was born on 1st Sep and she is compared to them, it's a unfair comparison. You just look around and compare kids out of schooling tasks etc. walking, talking ... " how old is your son/daughter?"
When someone answers 2 and your child is 1 you don't compare. When they get to school the eldest in the class will be 5 the youngest not 5 for just short of a year, but it's panic from day one. Enjoy teaching your daughter and let her make mistakes.

 

[bigquinn772]

Learning must be fun at that age.
I got my kids a mini whiteboard and some whiteboard markers. We also use the change from the copper jar as counters.
Also some blocks that connect, so they can see that 2 lots of 2 is four and so on.

Agree with this. Although I live in the US, my daughter is in kindergarten and recently turned 6 and they are not even doing times tables yet. To the OP, I wouldn't panic yet. She will get it :-)

 

[BulgarianPride]

have you tried explaining to her that 2x2 is 2+2 , that multiplication is simply a form of addition?
I don't think multiplication should be memorized at that age, they should be thought on how to get to the answer. If by repetition it sticks in their head then that is fine. But if they forget then they should be able to get the answer with addition.

show her
2x1 = 2
2x2 = 2 + 2
2x3 = 2 + 2 + 2
2x4 = 2 + 2 + 2 + 2
2x5 = 2 + 2 + 2 + 2 + 2

Play around with this , see if that helps her.