Matthijs de Ligt

Uffa said:
I have to agree with the Barça fan here, the "not classy" statement sounds like a poor excuse. They're free to say that of course.
Some fans are worried about this release clause but I heard that its value could grow each year, and in any case it's applicable only if he does want to leave. No sense in keeping a player that wants to leave. If we get around 200m after 2-3 years with him I'll be fine. We've learned not to get attached to Raiola's clients.
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Think de Ligt has just chosen Juventus and PSG uses this communication to face their failure for his signing.
 
FCBarca said:
The assumption is that the poster is from Paris but you have no idea where he's from. Great city but shite club that has been in existence for only a few decades and now with morally bankrupt Qatari owners. The story of players trying to exit that club are well documented and either ends with them being relegated to bench fodder or rewarded with bumper contracts. The irony is that even though my club has a shite board & aimless sporting direction atm, the moral highground is that we can always censure them or vote in a new one. Alternatively, PSG fans have to spin for their Qatari benefactors. It's genius from Raiola & De Ligt since the gulag could've only ever been a layover to a bigger club, hence the insistence on a tenable exit plan - even if it still was likely to be too steep for most to consider at 150M. Moreover, I am happy that this shite board won't entertain matching those sort of terms for the player.

As it happens, I like Basel, since they are a sister club to Barca. We are a small country but produce & export great football & footballers, maybe you're familiar with Shaqiri, Salah, Rakitic, Embolo, Lichtsteiner, Behrami, Degen, Djourou, Xhaka, Senderos & Fernandes among others
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I would seriously like to understand how a Swiss person can call anyone morally bankrupt. When has anyone from your country taken a moral stand on anything?
 
Uffa said:
It's usually better to reply on the substance instead of being strayed OT. His nationality has nothing to do with the validity of his argument.
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He can't go in any thread merely related to PSG without his gulag trademark comment. At this point, we can't talk about validity of his argument but propaganda.

Imagine if in any post related to Barcelona we were writing about UEFAlona, how despite their holier than thou attitude and the mes que un club, they engaged in partnership with Qatar that this poster despises, how the club and players are consistently the target of the tax authority and how their previous president went to prison because of dodgy deals.

I think we got his idea PSG is a gulag, now he can move on.
 
Parisian said:
He can't go in any thread merely related to PSG without his gulag trademark comment. At this point, we can't talk about validity of his argument but propaganda.

Imagine if in any post related to Barcelona we were writing about UEFAlona, how despite their holier than thou attitude and the mes que un club, they engaged in partnership with Qatar that this poster despises, how the club and players are consistently the target of the tax authority and how their previous president went to prison because of dodgy deals.

I think we got his idea PSG is a gulag, now he can move on.
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I agree that he's ridiculous and annoying but I try not to lower myself to that level. Reporting him or saying that what he's writing is fucked up and has no logic is one thing; starting to talk shit about Switzerland, which is completely OT, is another.
 
Enlighten me. Did the barca and psg feud began during the neymar transfer? Or earlier when barca tried to get veratti from psg?
 
jared said:
Enlighten me. Did the barca and psg feud began during the neymar transfer? Or earlier when barca tried to get veratti from psg?
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Didn't it begin with the "remuntada" in the 2017 CL?
I'd like to know as well though.
 
FCBarca said:
The assumption is that the poster is from Paris but you have no idea where he's from. Great city but shite club that has been in existence for only a few decades and now with morally bankrupt Qatari owners. The story of players trying to exit that club are well documented and either ends with them being relegated to bench fodder or rewarded with bumper contracts. The irony is that even though my club has a shite board & aimless sporting direction atm, the moral highground is that we can always censure them or vote in a new one. Alternatively, PSG fans have to spin for their Qatari benefactors. It's genius from Raiola & De Ligt since the gulag could've only ever been a layover to a bigger club, hence the insistence on a tenable exit plan - even if it still was likely to be too steep for most to consider at 150M. Moreover, I am happy that this shite board won't entertain matching those sort of terms for the player.

As it happens, I like Basel, since they are a sister club to Barca. We are a small country but produce & export great football & footballers, maybe you're familiar with Shaqiri, Salah, Rakitic, Embolo, Lichtsteiner, Behrami, Degen, Djourou, Xhaka, Senderos & Fernandes among others
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You were doing well until you mentioned Xhaka.
 
Did not expect de ligt to go to juve when the transfer saga started. They are going to be real threat in the CL, not that they aren't already. De ligt in that juve back line with possibly rabiot, pogba, Ramsey in midfield and Ronaldo and dybala up front is up there with the favorites.
 
jared said:
Enlighten me. Did the barca and psg feud began during the neymar transfer? Or earlier when barca tried to get veratti from psg?
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Don't really know about that.

For PSG fans and prolly the board, it has started when they tried to pull what Bayern is doing in regards of Sané. They started they public court and mediatic campaign of Thiago Silva as if PSG was not in the picture. Then Marquinhos. Then Verratti. The on field games are just some circumstantial episodes. I have nothing against their wins against us bar the last game where the officiating was really biased and made a big difference.

Barça fans liked the PSG that sold them Ronaldinho , not the one that dares to keep their best players and even take one of their best players (Neymar) against their will.
 
jared said:
Did not expect de ligt to go to juve when the transfer saga started. They are going to be real threat in the CL, not that they aren't already. De ligt in that juve back line with possibly rabiot, pogba, Ramsey in midfield and Ronaldo and dybala up front is up there with the favorites.
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There were rumours a while back but when Barcelona jumped in it looked to be over. Thankfully they had their disagreements with de Ligt's side, otherwise he'd be there already.

I don't think we'll get Pogba back, I know we're interested but he costs a lot. Too much in my opinion. And there's also the matter of whether he can come back to form with us. I don't know, I won't be upset if he comes back but I'd prefer not. I don't know if he can still deliver and he's never been a player you can trust in.
 
Uffa said:
There were rumours a while back but when Barcelona jumped in it looked to be over. Thankfully they had their disagreements with de Ligt's side, otherwise he'd be there already.

I don't think we'll get Pogba back, I know we're interested but he costs a lot. Too much in my opinion. And there's also the matter of whether he can come back to form with us. I don't know, I won't be upset if he comes back but I'd prefer not. I don't know if he can still deliver and he's never been a player you can trust in.
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You certainly don't want the twat who is currently pissing about with the rags. He is a fucking disgrace of a player who is stealing a living .
 
jared said:
Did not expect de ligt to go to juve when the transfer saga started. They are going to be real threat in the CL, not that they aren't already. De ligt in that juve back line with possibly rabiot, pogba, Ramsey in midfield and Ronaldo and dybala up front is up there with the favorites.
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Rabiot, Pogba and Ramsey is nowhere near City's midfield.

Juve won't pay the Pogba fee anyway, so it's a mute point.

He'll spend another year at the swamp, poisoning the dressing room with the rest of the big time charlie's.
 
Colin Bells Boots said:
You certainly don't want the twat who is currently pissing about with the rags. He is a fucking disgrace of a player who is stealing a living .
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Yeah as I said, I'd rather not see him back, especially at this price.

I know he's not performed since he went back to United, at least not consistently. I fault that on his managers as much as on him. He was played out of position and mistaken for a leader in midfield. He's not. When he had to play without Pirlo and Vidal in his last season with us, he didn't perform as well as he had in previous seasons. He needs freedom in midfield and he can be an excellent creative box-to-box player, but he can't lead neither the midfield nor the team.

I've never had any sympathy towards him because I personally don't like showboaters, but I admired his talent.
On a general note, I couldn't care less if one of our players is a twat, as long as he's the right twat for the team.
 
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