mayweather v mosely

Zin 'messiah' Zimmer

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Mayweather with a unanimous points verdict,
 
citytill1die84 said:
Mayweather easily Sugar Shane will be NO COMPETITION then I hope he fights Pac Man and gets his big fat Cocky mouth smashed in Mayweather does my nut in :)

Backs it up though mate, and pac will never fight him, to much to hide and simply isn't in his class when on a level playing field.
 
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I second that Zin. Mayweather for a unanimous decision.
 
people write mosley off at your peril, with all the talk of manny v money after this, shane may just upset the apple cart. I personally think mayweather will hit and run his way to a points victory, when i say hit and run it's not a dig at floyd, it's the style i think he will use to frustrate and confuse mosley.
 
The Shane mosely of ten years may have had a slim chance.
I can't see him taking too many chances and think it may be a bit of a boring fight first 5/6 rounds because mayweather isn't going to go looking for him as such.If Mosely tires and slows towards end of fight I think it may end similar to Ricky Hatton.

Zen I know you think mayweather would beat pac but how do you think he'd cope. I dont mean pacs speed I think he'll cope ok but pacs workrate and movement to get those awkward angled shots in.
I seriously think both wouldn't mind to much if they didn't fight each other at all.I can imagine them both looking at tapes fights thinking I'm not sure if I fancy some of that.
 
shootmeifipost10k said:
The Shane mosely of ten years may have had a slim chance.
I can't see him taking too many chances and think it may be a bit of a boring fight first 5/6 rounds because mayweather isn't going to go looking for him as such.If Mosely tires and slows towards end of fight I think it may end similar to Ricky Hatton.

Zen I know you think mayweather would beat pac but how do you think he'd cope. I dont mean pacs speed I think he'll cope ok but pacs workrate and movement to get those awkward angled shots in.
I seriously think both wouldn't mind to much if they didn't fight each other at all.I can imagine them both looking at tapes fights thinking I'm not sure if I fancy some of that.

Its all hypothetical but for me the best tactician i've seen in my lifetime is mayweather, he doesn't go into the fight one dimensional....ever. He doesn't have a plan A, Plan B etc but half the fucking alphabet. For me he would match pacs work rate and nullify the awkward angles he creates with his movement, also picking the right shots at the right time. For me pac is made for money in that he takes risks with the pressure he forces on the opponent, a counter master like mayweather would relish it, hence the bullshit excuses by pac....... come on who takes a fight for $6m when they can fight money and get $20m? A guy who has the irking feeling that not only can't he take his fix to be conditioned on a par, but one who knows he'd get dusted.
 
mayweather

and i think mayweather would beat pacman he would pick him off like he did with hatton mayweathers a class boxer
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
shootmeifipost10k said:
The Shane mosely of ten years may have had a slim chance.
I can't see him taking too many chances and think it may be a bit of a boring fight first 5/6 rounds because mayweather isn't going to go looking for him as such.If Mosely tires and slows towards end of fight I think it may end similar to Ricky Hatton.

Zen I know you think mayweather would beat pac but how do you think he'd cope. I dont mean pacs speed I think he'll cope ok but pacs workrate and movement to get those awkward angled shots in.
I seriously think both wouldn't mind to much if they didn't fight each other at all.I can imagine them both looking at tapes fights thinking I'm not sure if I fancy some of that.

Its all hypothetical but for me the best tactician i've seen in my lifetime is mayweather, he doesn't go into the fight one dimensional....ever. He doesn't have a plan A, Plan B etc but half the fucking alphabet. For me he would match pacs work rate and nullify the awkward angles he creates with his movement, also picking the right shots at the right time. For me pac is made for money in that he takes risks with the pressure he forces on the opponent, a counter master like mayweather would relish it, hence the bullshit excuses by pac....... come on who takes a fight for $6m when they can fight money and get $20m? A guy who has the irking feeling that not only can't he take his fix to be conditioned on a par, but one who knows he'd get dusted.

I was talking about this the other night with a mate of mine we both said mayweather and both also agreed with a yeah but.

I agree about mayweather being a brilliant tactitian saying that there's no doubt he wouldn't have to go further than plan A he knows excactly what fight he'd be getting.Not sure about matching the workrate though.
I really do think like you that mayweather is as good as anything I've ever seen and agree that pac does take chances to be picked off,but the one thing that I can't get away from is the combined speed and workrate,You have to say drugs issues aside there's not been a fighter who can,or has matched him and not just through the first half only then to slow down,because he doesn't and hardly drops the pace for the whole 3 mins 12 rounds.
I don't think for 1 min that pac doesn't think he couldn't win and mayweather as already admitted and said when the fight was on "It will be the toughest fight in my career I'll look so good in there though when winning"
There's no getting away from both being the best by far at what they do.
I think both in different ways and styles are quite awesome to watch in a ring.
Mayweather the slickest smoothest cockey git,don't give a shit what you throw at me I'll look better and with style than you and that's out of the ring inside he's better than that..

Pac all smiling friendly and probabaly would rather do 12 rounds punch for punch at full pace than sit at home by the pool don't think I've seen anyone who actually enjoys himself in the ring more.

I really hope they would sort it out think they match up for each other mayweather loves someone comeing at him and pac likes counter puncher.

My boxing head says same as you mayweather should pick him off,but think he could be in trouble if he does the usual slowish start to the first few rounds.He's good enough to get away with it most times doing as he pleases normally because of picking up his workrate and picking his punches superbly.But if it's a close fight which I think it may well be then he will have to match him from first bell.

IMO the fight would probabaly go the distance and mayweather will have to be busier than normal to keep pace with pac but I can't see him doing more than him so those early rounds may be crucial.

I'm really not sure how it would turn out if they make 20-30mill each and it's close,then it's a nailed on draw and rematch.I've already decided if it happens even though I never bet on boxing I'm going to have 20 quid on the draw simply because there's way too much money to be made for everyone invovled for there to be no rematch and a draw would be the perfect result.



Anyway IMO...Mayweather to easily beat Mosley in about 7.To quick smooth and pick off mosely who at 38 won't be able to do anything quick or cute enough to trouble mayweather.It could be one of those nights were maweather makes mosley who down the years as been a brilliant and world class look real bad.
But then again one punch.
 
shootmeifipost10k said:
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
Its all hypothetical but for me the best tactician i've seen in my lifetime is mayweather, he doesn't go into the fight one dimensional....ever. He doesn't have a plan A, Plan B etc but half the fucking alphabet. For me he would match pacs work rate and nullify the awkward angles he creates with his movement, also picking the right shots at the right time. For me pac is made for money in that he takes risks with the pressure he forces on the opponent, a counter master like mayweather would relish it, hence the bullshit excuses by pac....... come on who takes a fight for $6m when they can fight money and get $20m? A guy who has the irking feeling that not only can't he take his fix to be conditioned on a par, but one who knows he'd get dusted.

I was talking about this the other night with a mate of mine we both said mayweather and both also agreed with a yeah but.

I agree about mayweather being a brilliant tactitian saying that there's no doubt he wouldn't have to go further than plan A he knows excactly what fight he'd be getting.Not sure about matching the workrate though.
I really do think like you that mayweather is as good as anything I've ever seen and agree that pac does take chances to be picked off,but the one thing that I can't get away from is the combined speed and workrate,You have to say drugs issues aside there's not been a fighter who can,or has matched him and not just through the first half only then to slow down,because he doesn't and hardly drops the pace for the whole 3 mins 12 rounds.
I don't think for 1 min that pac doesn't think he couldn't win and mayweather as already admitted and said when the fight was on "It will be the toughest fight in my career I'll look so good in there though when winning"
There's no getting away from both being the best by far at what they do.
I think both in different ways and styles are quite awesome to watch in a ring.
Mayweather the slickest smoothest cockey git,don't give a shit what you throw at me I'll look better and with style than you and that's out of the ring inside he's better than that..

Pac all smiling friendly and probabaly would rather do 12 rounds punch for punch at full pace than sit at home by the pool don't think I've seen anyone who actually enjoys himself in the ring more.

I really hope they would sort it out think they match up for each other mayweather loves someone comeing at him and pac likes counter puncher.

My boxing head says same as you mayweather should pick him off,but think he could be in trouble if he does the usual slowish start to the first few rounds.He's good enough to get away with it most times doing as he pleases normally because of picking up his workrate and picking his punches superbly.But if it's a close fight which I think it may well be then he will have to match him from first bell.

IMO the fight would probabaly go the distance and mayweather will have to be busier than normal to keep pace with pac but I can't see him doing more than him so those early rounds may be crucial.

I'm really not sure how it would turn out if they make 20-30mill each and it's close,then it's a nailed on draw and rematch.I've already decided if it happens even though I never bet on boxing I'm going to have 20 quid on the draw simply because there's way too much money to be made for everyone invovled for there to be no rematch and a draw would be the perfect result.



Anyway IMO...Mayweather to easily beat Mosley in about 7.To quick smooth and pick off mosely who at 38 won't be able to do anything quick or cute enough to trouble mayweather.It could be one of those nights were maweather makes mosley who down the years as been a brilliant and world class look real bad.
But then again one punch.

I enjoyed that response mate........ well thought out and clearly knowledgeable.
I really am unable to look past the dirt in pacs locker truth be told, the past 4 years with him have left a sour taste in my mouth, i know exactly the intricacies a fighter must sacrifice when conditioning the body and the closer i look at pac something just doesn't ring true with him...... the body mass alone and not only the retention of speed but the improvement in it just defies the logic of all fighters, this coupled with untold stamina with which the likes i've never seem.
Now there is always the possibility that he really has improved in a completely unorthodox manner, he really is all of the above by sheer dedication, somehow though i know deep down that all is not as it seems.

Interestingly the documentary (24/7) is inadvertently having a sly dig with the concentration on the new doping system which the nevada state is now embracing....... pac wants to fight in vegas again he'll have to overcome his fear of drawing blood and pissing in a cup (O:
 
To be fair to him though he did agreed to do any random turn up test leading up to the fight but none as close as the final one they wanted which he wasn't happy about not sure on time was it 4 weeks beforehand.
I can't see how he can hide anything if his camp said they'd do that.I know they changed this afterwards but that was down to pettyness and he still says he'd do the 4weeks before anyday anytime random and stright after the fight so sounds ok if they agree to that can't hide anything there.
I really hope there's nothing in it.
I look at it as he's just brought his speed up with him,back as a flyweight he looked much quicker than most so he's bound to look hyper also I just can't see a reason why he'd risk his reputation especially back home and there's that many hangers on surely somebody would sell it to the press if true they'd make a fortune.

I can see a fight down the line there's just way too much money involved hopefully 2 and I win some wads on a brilliant fight and a draw in the fiist one :-).

Who's your fave boxer ever Zim
 
Money and Mosely I cant wait for this a couple of years too late in the making for Mosely to have a chance of a upset. Saying that I expect the first 6 rounds to be tight but Money to get the better in the later rounds and may even force a late stoppage.

Have to say fair play to Sky for putting the fight on normal Sky and next weeks fight looks a decent 1 with Paul Williams. Maybe if Money wins and Williams win the next week we could see a Money v Williams at light middleweight if money is able to move up to that weight.
 
i see your reasoning mate, and theres plus and negatives to each argument......... like i said in an ideal world pac really is clean and simply that good. As for the fight happening? all depends on the politics, personally i don't see Bob Arum risking his cash cow as it would end some of pacs mystique, he generates more ppv viewers back home than any other fighter in there respective countries, simply put pac is a goldmine, risking his reputation not only in the ring but also out of it, something mayweather would exploit to the core. He would constantly bring into doubt pacs integrity, and the key being he would win the psychological war before lacing the gloves, he's a master at it. How many times you seen a pac opponent slag him off? he's generally accepted as a nice guy, how does he react to criticism? he'd simply lose this fight before it began.

As for my fav fighter mate,

Hagler- best finisher ever in my opinion.
Whitaker- oozed class, mayweather himself models his style on him.
Calzaghe - greatest british boxer of all time and up there with the best ever middleweights
duran - absolute warrior
Lewis - last great heavyweight champion, severely underrated.
 
I don't know why so many are saying that Mosley will get beat because 'he is 38'. IMO, he has reached his peak now. Just look at his previous opponents. He will get beat because, even at his best, he is not better than Mayweather.
 
Money has all the tools a great defence lighting handspeed and great movement add to that he has decent power. The most complete fighter I have seen from the 00s and we may never see anyone like him for a long time when he decides to call it a day. I would rate Money up there with the best to have laced a pair of gloves thats how highly I rate him.
I dont know why the Americans hate him so much if he was British or Irish he would be 1 of our most watched and favourite fighters. Time will tell if Pacman grows some balls we might get to see that fight if not then its boxing loosing out as its the fight everyone wants to see.
 
nosher78 said:
mayweather

and i think mayweather would beat pacman he would pick him off like he did with hatton mayweathers a class boxer


Mayweather all day, and agree I reckon he will beat pac any day !
 
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take a look at this little kid 'cashflow' lol, 5:40 into the clip........ without doubt a champion in the making, piss funny.
 

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