Media bias against City

[blueinsa]

Sorry mate, but to borrow from Father Dougal "You've gone a bit mad there, Ted".

How does this conspiracy manifest itself? Is it part of official FA policy? Are referees briefed by email not to give us penalties, or is it like the Final Solution (nothing in writing)? Or is it like Cambridge in the 1950's, with FA agents targeting the closet homosexuals?

I can accept that individual referees may suffer from conscious and/or unconscious bias, that some may be susceptible to the kind of pressure that Taggart and the media used to deliberately exude, and further that there may be some that actively hate us and do indeed cheat (the name Peter Walton will live long in the memory, and I could quite easily see Robert Madley heading down the same path). I can also accept that there is scope for corruption in an organisation that knowingly allows card carrying Manchester United fans (Anthony Taylor, Lee Mason) to pass themselves off as Altrincham and Bolton supporters and officiate at not just the Etihad but at Old Trafford. However, beyond that I think you're straying into the realms of fantasy. Most referees simply do the best job they can and I do not believe there is an orchestrated campaign to deny us anything

So you agree that the things i have said exist probably do yet im straying into the realms of fantasy?

As for the stonewall penalty, no doubt, stonewall but its ever so easy for them to wave away our appeals for stonewall penalties whilst merrily blowing the whistle at every opportunity for theirs and thats the point i make.

Players like Kun and Sterling could get fucking shot by a sniper in the box right now and it would be waved away with some fucking idiot like Webb or media clown pundit saying not enough contact.

The PL is a huge business, £Billions of pounds and its only that because of a huge global fanbase that is predominately made up of rags, scouse, Arse and chav fans. Real competition and years of those sides winning nothing would hurt the brand, Scudamore said as much and to think a business man would do what was needed to protect the brand and the income streams is not so much of a stretch of the imagination.

PB has also said many a times that several high profile refs have suddenly had to retire because of info we as a club had on them and they were refs that we had suffered under.

Said it before, the richest league in the world should have the best refs and linesmen/women and for me, they should be brought in from around the world. No more Mr Altrincham or Bolton fan managing the rags to dodgy wins or denying us clear goals and penalties and that applies to every team in this league.

lets have a fair contest, refereed by the very best instead of the hand picked next big thing Mr Riley wants to push through despite them being clearly not up to the job.

 

[franksinatra]

I thought he knocked it away sneakily with his hand. But I must admit I didn't have time or effort to study it enough to see whther he was as disorientated as Shearer and co said. And therefore if it wasn't deliberate, fair enough. But how would the ref know how much 'he didn't know where he was'?

Suffice to say it was far less of a penalty than Navas at Everton.

Again you are probably right with regards the Navas penalty but every club could point to similar instances where penalties were not given..

It does not make it right or fair but it does not make it bias either.

 

[Aytoun]

Back to the mundane - todays mail says dont forget its Premier league again. See the comments from Louis, Arsene & Jurgen ahead of the midweek fixtures. 1st. 5th. & 8th. positions. NO mention of the other 5 involved.

 

[franksinatra]

Frank,
I am trying to visualise you in the stadium. Trying to convince your fellow fans that the stonewall penalty that has just been denied was statistically acceptable. ;-)

I think it would be wasted on my brethren in South Stand Level 3 and during the game I am like a cross between bluemooner and blueinsa for impartiality :-)

 

[blueinsa]

I think it would be wasted on my brethren in South Stand Level 3 and during the game I am like a cross between bluemooner and blueinsa for impartiality :-)

:-)

 

[The blue phantom]

So you agree that the things i have said exist probably do yet im straying into the realms of fantasy?

As for the stonewall penalty, no doubt, stonewall but its ever so easy for them to wave away our appeals for stonewall penalties whilst merrily blowing the whistle at every opportunity for theirs and thats the point i make.

Players like Kun and Sterling could get fucking shot by a sniper in the box right now and it would be waved away with some fucking idiot like Webb or media clown pundit saying not enough contact.

The PL is a huge business, £Billions of pounds and its only that because of a huge global fanbase that is predominately made up of rags, scouse, Arse and chav fans. Real competition and years of those sides winning nothing would hurt the brand, Scudamore said as much and to think a business man would do what was needed to protect the brand and the income streams is not so much of a stretch of the imagination.

PB has also said many a times that several high profile refs have suddenly had to retire because of info we as a club had on them and they were refs that we had suffered under.

Said it before, the richest league in the world should have the best refs and linesmen/women and for me, they should be brought in from around the world. No more Mr Altrincham or Bolton fan managing the rags to dodgy wins or denying us clear goals and penalties and that applies to every team in this league.

lets have a fair contest, refereed by the very best instead of the hand picked next big thing Mr Riley wants to push through despite them being clearly not up to the job.

How come its us that the rulers of the PL are trying to stop, when chelsea came along and upset the applecart stopping the rags domination i never read anything abt corruption then, is it just manchester city they dislike?

 

[Eds]

So you agree that the things i have said exist probably do yet im straying into the realms of fantasy?

As for the stonewall penalty, no doubt, stonewall but its ever so easy for them to wave away our appeals for stonewall penalties whilst merrily blowing the whistle at every opportunity for theirs and thats the point i make.

Players like Kun and Sterling could get fucking shot by a sniper in the box right now and it would be waved away with some fucking idiot like Webb or media clown pundit saying not enough contact.

The PL is a huge business, £Billions of pounds and its only that because of a huge global fanbase that is predominately made up of rags, scouse, Arse and chav fans. Real competition and years of those sides winning nothing would hurt the brand, Scudamore said as much and to think a business man would do what was needed to protect the brand and the income streams is not so much of a stretch of the imagination.

PB has also said many a times that several high profile refs have suddenly had to retire because of info we as a club had on them and they were refs that we had suffered under.

Said it before, the richest league in the world should have the best refs and linesmen/women and for me, they should be brought in from around the world. No more Mr Altrincham or Bolton fan managing the rags to dodgy wins or denying us clear goals and penalties and that applies to every team in this league.

lets have a fair contest, refereed by the very best instead of the hand picked next big thing Mr Riley wants to push through despite them being clearly not up to the job.

I would love to see this 'dossier' but this site is remarkable if any of its views are true http://footballisfixed.blogspot.co.uk/

 

[franksinatra]

I would love to see this 'dossier' but this site is remarkable if any of its views are true http://footballisfixed.blogspot.co.uk/

Wouldn't we all. Over to you PB. If there was evidence of ref bias and the club kept it to itself, but used it to force refs to retire rather than expose malpractise it would be a shameful episode in our history.

 

[trublue55]

Again you are probably right with regards the Navas penalty but every club could point to similar instances where penalties were not given..

It does not make it right or fair but it does not make it bias either.

I take you back to my comments of last night, with respect, not unduly bothered about right, fair or biased as they are subjective opinions, much more interested in COMPETENCE, and if you ignore the previous 3 areas, that is what you are left with, and competence or otherwise is not a matter of opinion, it is rapidly becoming a matter of fact!

 

[franksinatra]

I take you back to my comments of last night, with respect, not unduly bothered about right, fair or biased as they are subjective opinions, much more interested in COMPETENCE, and if you ignore the previous 3 areas, that is what you are left with, and competence or otherwise is not a matter of opinion, it is rapidly becoming a matter of fact!

Well you need to post this in another thead. This is the media/agenda thread and is a discussion about possible/perceived bias against the club.

Everybody, I am sure, is in agreement we want competentreferees who never make a mistake. Sadlythis will never happen. Some fans think those decisions are skewed against City and rather than it be incompetence it is more a deliberate policy to penalise us. That is what we are exploring.