Media Bias

[Deleted member 14625]

Who does it really affect? I can't see that it affects anybody other than a few fans who get upset/angry and call "agenda" every other week.

The media have been talking bollocks since time began. They aimed their bollcks at City from 1st September 2008 and haven't stopped. In that time we've gone from 10th and a UEFA Quarter-final, 5th and a League Cup Semi-final, 3rd and winning the FA Cup to winning the Premier League. We have also steadily upped our attendances, commercial revenue, merchendise revenue, sopnsorship etc.

Nothing the media says will effect the club's progress. We don't seem to be slowing down or stopping in any way. In fact, we aren't nearly finished and still have a lot to do and will keep growing til we get there. All along the way the media will be taking bollocks and will do forevermore.

So the only people it affects are a certain number of fans who can't seem to take no notice of it.

People, take no notice!

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I was even impressed more with Hansen the other week as he gave you some proper insight not the usual talking head stuff.
At minimum i think the BBC are trying at least so that deserves a thumbs up.

Given the apparent barrage of complaints (and follow up complaints following meaningless generic replies) about Hansen's, Lawrenson's and Shearer's punditry and commentating over the summer maybe, just maybe, the BBC has taken notice and told Hansen in particular to get his act together and tone down some of his comments.

PMSL!!!!

Victory for the Bluemoon Internet Militants.

Murdoch is next.

 

[Pigeonho]

I was even impressed more with Hansen the other week as he gave you some proper insight not the usual talking head stuff.
At minimum i think the BBC are trying at least so that deserves a thumbs up.

Given the apparent barrage of complaints (and follow up complaints following meaningless generic replies) about Hansen's, Lawrenson's and Shearer's punditry and commentating over the summer maybe, just maybe, the BBC has taken notice and told Hansen in particular to get his act together and tone down some of his comments.

PMSL!!!!

Victory for the Bluemoon Internet Militants.

Murdoch is next.

Remember when Linekar pulled Hansen about his criticism of balo during the Euro's? People on here thought it was because of them and their complaints!

 

[moomba]

Who does it really affect? I can't see that it affects anybody other than a few fans who get upset/angry and call "agenda" every other week.

The media have been talking bollocks since time began. They aimed their bollcks at City from 1st September 2008 and haven't stopped. In that time we've gone from 10th and a UEFA Quarter-final, 5th and a League Cup Semi-final, 3rd and winning the FA Cup to winning the Premier League. We have also steadily upped our attendances, commercial revenue, merchendise revenue, sopnsorship etc.

Nothing the media says will effect the club's progress. We don't seem to be slowing down or stopping in any way. In fact, we aren't nearly finished and still have a lot to do and will keep growing til we get there. All along the way the media will be taking bollocks and will do forevermore.

So the only people it affects are a certain number of fans who can't seem to take no notice of it.

People, take no notice!

I don't think it effects things significantly, but PR companies exist for a reason, and positive PR is better for us as a club than negative PR.

At a very minor level, each article with inaccuracies and negative slants make it all the easier for others to perpetuate negative myths about us. We shouldn't be reluctant to pull the media up on things that allow this to happen.

 

[BlueMooney]

Hill-Wood is exactly right, and if it's the title you are making a point about well we are a money-bags club aren't we? When Chelsea were doing this when Red Rom first took over and for the seasons after that, they were referred to as money-bags too, as will someone else should it happen again.

I have no problem with the content of the article, or what Hill-Wood says about their club. But he referred to several clubs in the article, not just City alone and he didn't use the word moneybags at all.

The title is totally misleading, and IMO casts us in a negative light. And as far as I'm concerned referring to us as simply moneybags totally undervalues what we are as a club.

It's a paraphrased quote from the Arsenal chairman. In terms of getting people to read it, naming City - as last season's champions - has more effect. The headline has to be brief, it can't say "Arsenal chairman admits his club can't compete with X, Y, or Z..." So they pick one.

And what's more interesting: The Arsenal chairman effectively saying his club can't compete with, say Chelsea, who finished outside the top four and won the Champions League because of a few good performances but were largely inconsistent domestically, or the Arsenal chairman telling their fans they're a long way off winning the title and they're not going to spend the money to get them anywhere near it in the future?

 

[moomba]

It's a paraphrased quote from the Arsenal chairman. In terms of getting people to read it, naming City - as last season's champions - has more effect. The headline has to be brief, it can't say "Arsenal chairman admits his club can't compete with X, Y, or Z..." So they pick one.

And what's more interesting: The Arsenal chairman effectively saying his club can't compete with, say Chelsea, who finished outside the top four and won the Champions League because of a few good performances but were largely inconsistent domestically, or the Arsenal chairman telling their fans they're a long way off winning the title and they're not going to spend the money to get them anywhere near it in the future?

Does that make it a balanced article and headline then?

 

[ABU inc GDR]

Maybe people stop debating your posts because they are usually condescending and frequently rude. Just a thought.

I think the point about marketing and demographics has been made and has been accepted, so in some areas there could be more United posters than City, and this could be perceived as biased. I also think the question raised as to how you know equal numbers of posters have been printed hasn't been answered, bearing in mind your logic below that there should be many more posters without United as the majority detest them. As for you knowing BSkyB very well through business, that doesn't wash with me. If you know any more about their strategy and tactics than the rest of us, the I am a Dutchman. Your generalisation about profits though is, unsurprisingly for a media business, or any other for that matter, spot on. BSkyB will do whatever it takes to increase profits, as the News International scandals and the persistent selling of media support for political favour shows.

By the way, do they really have a financial stake in United?

I told you. Total silence in response to these points.

Hard to understand your convoluted English, but the main thing I note is that you totally ignored my point about the corresponding "Every Goal Matters" TV advert, which is considerably higher impact than the billboard.

You also totally ignored my point about the fact that there are ten Sky customers who detest Man United for every one who likes them. As proved by the reaction to our title win (one of Skysports greatest ever days, incidentally).

But I'm afraid you are a Dutchman, Johan. I deal with senior management at SkySports from Leeds and Osterley every single day. I socialise with them fairly regularly. I'm not going into more detail but several people on this site know why. I know all about the poster campaign, and all their other campaigns, in ways which would surprise you.

You can choose to disbelieve me if you want, that's your perogative. But I don't tell lies on here.

You're just another football fan with an eye patch on, his head in the clouds and a persecution complex, I'm afraid. The fact that you think Sky have a stake in Man United proves that. Just a thought.

You seem obsessed with answering your own posts Dave, by all means give your opinion regarding media bias (if possible without patronising others) but as you profess your own close liason with Sky your opinion may be viewed as bias by others. Not wishing to narrow the wider discussion of media bias as your connected with Sky can you ask them to update the EPL trophy ribbons (currently black and red) that appear before any replay event during the live matches. I believe the current trophy has blue and white ribbons!

 

[BlueMooney]

It's a paraphrased quote from the Arsenal chairman. In terms of getting people to read it, naming City - as last season's champions - has more effect. The headline has to be brief, it can't say "Arsenal chairman admits his club can't compete with X, Y, or Z..." So they pick one.

And what's more interesting: The Arsenal chairman effectively saying his club can't compete with, say Chelsea, who finished outside the top four and won the Champions League because of a few good performances but were largely inconsistent domestically, or the Arsenal chairman telling their fans they're a long way off winning the title and they're not going to spend the money to get them anywhere near it in the future?

Does that make it a balanced article and headline then?

Yes. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that article.

There is balance - Arsenal chairman says one thing, group that disagrees with him is allowed to have their say too. He's not being misrepresented in his comments in the article by the headline. He's said Arsenal can't compete with rich football teams such as City. The headline says he's said they can't compete with City.

I really don't see the problem.

 

[Jnr Kisby]

Dont know why so many get their knickers in a knot over this. Some people like City, some dont. Regardless of where you go there will always be a 'bias' in life. Time to grow up, dont take notice and stop embarrassing yourselves.

 

[ABU inc GDR]

Given the apparent barrage of complaints (and follow up complaints following meaningless generic replies) about Hansen's, Lawrenson's and Shearer's punditry and commentating over the summer maybe, just maybe, the BBC has taken notice and told Hansen in particular to get his act together and tone down some of his comments.

PMSL!!!!

Victory for the Bluemoon Internet Militants.

Murdoch is next.

Remember when Linekar pulled Hansen about his criticism of balo during the Euro's? People on here thought it was because of them and their complaints!

Are you 2 a double act?