Media Discussion - 2023/24

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Why a fairy-tale LaLiga title for Girona could be bad news for Man City

UEFA's multiclub ownership rules mean that if Girona win LaLiga and Manchester City don't retain their Premier League title, things will get awkward.

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Ogden cant seem to hide his desperation.

Ogden seems to be unaware that, by his logic, if Ratcliffe owned Nice win Ligue 1 and the rags finish 2nd, 3rd or 4th (a very long shot I know) they would be in the same situation.

UEFA cleared both RB Leipzig and RB Salzburg to participate this season because, although having the same owner, they are controlled by different management structures. With UEFA having set the precedent surely that would apply to City and Girona?

 

[old blue]

Man City fans fume at coverage of the FA Cup fifth-round draw

Pep Guardiola's side progressed to the next round of the tournament after beating Tottenham 1-0 on Friday night with Nathan Ake scoring in the 88th minute of the match to seal a late victory.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Umbridge, is that where "The Archers " is set?

 

[solley attwell]

I remember Ralph Coates with a full head of hair.

He'd have made a great forward partnership with Bob Hatton

 

[solley attwell]

All I keep hearing is the media praising Klopp's "loyalty".

Liverpool gave him a new contract, let him spunk millions on new players, turned down ridiculous bids for Salah, all while failing to qualify for the CL.

Klopp then resigns while they're top of the league, announcing it halfway through the season for maximum disruption, and saying his backroom staff are leaving as well.

You'd think just one journalist would have called this out.

You mean like not wearing black armbands on the eve of Heysel at the CL final in 2022 or last season when they had a match on the eve of the anniversary while every year making sure they wear black armbands and have a minutes silence every April

 

[cleavers]

UEFA cleared both RB Leipzig and RB Salzburg to participate this season because, although having the same owner, they are controlled by different management structures. With UEFA having set the precedent surely that would apply to City and Girona?

CFG don't even own 50% of Girona, so can't see what the issue would be.

 

[Metalartin]

I know some will say it doesn't/shouldn't matter but I did find this article from a while back interesting:

Which teams do football writers support?

Maybe it's worth it's own thread, that we can add to. For a more complete, up to date look, at the landscape we're dealing with?

Spoiler: Full List

The Telegraph
Chris Bascombe: Liverpool
Luke Edwards: Newcastle
Roddy Forsyth: Rangers
Thom Gibbs: QPR
Alan Hansen: Liverpool
John Ley: Arsenal
Jonathan Liew : Spurs
Mark Ogden: Manchester United
Matt Scott: Arsenal
Alan Smith: Arsenal
Alan Tyers: Hibernian
Jeremy Wilson: Arsenal
Henry Winter: Chelsea & John Terry

The Times
Patrick Barclay: Dundee
Oliver Kay: Liverpool
Gabriele Marcotti: Chelsea (season ticket holder anyway)
George Caulkin: Newcastle
Tony Evans: Liverpool
Matt Hughes: Arsenal
Peter Lansley: Wolves
Rory Smith: Liverpool

The Independent
James Lawton: Arsenal?
Sam Wallace: Arsenal?
Ian Herbert: Wrexham
Simon Rice: Arsenal

The Guardian
Paul Doyle: Arsenal?
Dominic Fifield: Crystal Palace
David Lacey: Arsenal
Amy Lawrence: Arsenal
Kevin McCarra: Celtic
Jacob Steinberg: West Ham
Daniel Taylor: Nottingham Forest
Louise Taylor: Sunderland
Brian Glanville: Arsenal
John Ashdown: Sheffield United

The Sun
Shaun Custis: Newcastle
Simon Barnes: Arsenal


The Daily Mail
Martin Samuel: West Ham
Matt Lawton: Arsenal
Matt Fortune: Arsenal
Neil Moxley: Everton

The Mirror
Oliver Holt: Stockport County
Martin Lipton: Spurs
Darren Lewis: Liverpool
Simon Bird: Newcastle
James Nursey: Norwich
John Cross: Arsenal
Matt Law: Aston Villa

 

[argyle]

I know some will say it doesn't/shouldn't matter but I did find this article from a while back interesting:

Which teams do football writers support?

Maybe it's worth it's own thread, that we can add to. For a more complete, up to date look, at the landscape we're dealing with?

Spoiler: Full List

The Telegraph
Chris Bascombe: Liverpool
Luke Edwards: Newcastle
Roddy Forsyth: Rangers
Thom Gibbs: QPR
Alan Hansen: Liverpool
John Ley: Arsenal
Jonathan Liew : Spurs
Mark Ogden: Manchester United
Matt Scott: Arsenal
Alan Smith: Arsenal
Alan Tyers: Hibernian
Jeremy Wilson: Arsenal
Henry Winter: Chelsea & John Terry

The Times
Patrick Barclay: Dundee
Oliver Kay: Liverpool
Gabriele Marcotti: Chelsea (season ticket holder anyway)
George Caulkin: Newcastle
Tony Evans: Liverpool
Matt Hughes: Arsenal
Peter Lansley: Wolves
Rory Smith: Liverpool

The Independent
James Lawton: Arsenal?
Sam Wallace: Arsenal?
Ian Herbert: Wrexham
Simon Rice: Arsenal

The Guardian
Paul Doyle: Arsenal?
Dominic Fifield: Crystal Palace
David Lacey: Arsenal
Amy Lawrence: Arsenal
Kevin McCarra: Celtic
Jacob Steinberg: West Ham
Daniel Taylor: Nottingham Forest
Louise Taylor: Sunderland
Brian Glanville: Arsenal
John Ashdown: Sheffield United

The Sun
Shaun Custis: Newcastle
Simon Barnes: Arsenal


The Daily Mail
Martin Samuel: West Ham
Matt Lawton: Arsenal
Matt Fortune: Arsenal
Neil Moxley: Everton

The Mirror
Oliver Holt: Stockport County
Martin Lipton: Spurs
Darren Lewis: Liverpool
Simon Bird: Newcastle
James Nursey: Norwich
John Cross: Arsenal
Matt Law: Aston Villa

Some on there aren't so bad and it shouldn't matter what team a journalist supports away from the job.

The problem is that more and more are being fanzine writers for their club - and it's mainly utd and liverpool supporting ones that get the main stories.

 

[mexico1970]

Some on there aren't so bad and it shouldn't matter what team a journalist supports away from the job.

The problem is that more and more are being fanzine writers for their club - and it's mainly utd and liverpool supporting ones that get the main stories.

They are part of an industry that is self serving, they enjoy an easy existence as long as they write what the football establishment want.

Some take it way to far and need banning from the Etihad IMHO mate.

 

[argyle]

I thought that this had already been debunked.

My recollection is that there are rules, and it's based on majority shareholding. CFG own less than 50% of Girona, so it's fine.

Ogden know's it's fine. He's just a troll.

Like most 'journalists' these days they say stupid shit they know is false to get people angry enough to click on it and share.

Not that the journalist industry was ever brilliant but clickbait has ruined whatever was good about it.

 

[argyle]

They are part of an industry that is self serving, they enjoy an easy existence as long as they write what the football establishment want.

Some take it way to far and need banning from the Etihad IMHO mate.

Yeah I think so too.

I just know from reading on here years ago that City are mindful that banning journalists would lead to criticism about UAE's/Abu Dhabi's freedom of speech, human rights, freedom of journalists, etc.