In the past Sky have let PL Channel customers watch Main Event if it's showing a PL game. Definitely worth trying.
Not to dissuade you from quitting Sky or course!
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Media Discussion - 2023/24
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Not to dissuade you from quitting Sky or course!
heslops barnet
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BBC Website……not one mention on our game this afternoon…..boxing, Rags, chavs girls, Moyes………
Not sure if mentioned already,but a brilliant piece by our media friend Martin Samuel in todays Times on our greatness.
Shame he's behind a pay wall these days.
kaz7
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All about the charges , west ham stopping us and how arses deserve the title . They adored pep when he was in spain, the second he came here and not the rags they have sniped and sneered at him , they call themselves football people as well
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Sky pundit saying that "we know City are using llegal delaying tactics to stop the charges" How does he know that?? Clearly just making stuff up to suit his agenda.
Illegal delaying tactics…… “cease & desist you ****!”
spacecadet
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Fucking disgracefulBBC Website……not one mention on our game this afternoon…..boxing, Rags, chavs girls, Moyes………
heslops barnet
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As per usual with BBC Salford red twatsFucking disgraceful
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Their coverage of the final day doesn't start until 2pm onlineBBC Website……not one mention on our game this afternoon…..boxing, Rags, chavs girls, Moyes………
Here is the Times’ Martin Samuels piece on City’s achievement,a lone balanced voice,in a cesspit of awful journalism.
Man City’s four in a row is only boring if you think genius is a snooze.Pep Guardiola’s assault on the record books is anything but dull. This side is one of footballing beauty, played by a team of world-class stars and producing some of the most thrilling title races the game has seen.
There are minutes of a Manchester City board meeting in which Brian Marwood is asked about future prospects at the club’s academy. Marwood is one of the unsung heroes of City’s rise. He was part of the recruitment process that brought Sergio Agüero, David Silva and Yaya Touré to the club. He helped shape the modern development strategy.
Marwood replies that they have identified one they think is exceptional, a future England player. “He comes from Stockport and his name is Philip Foden,” he says. Foden was eight at the time. So what is likely to unfold this afternoon is not just about money. There are plenty of Premier League clubs that have money, not least the lot down the road. City were building for this moment pretty much from the day in 2009 when Marwood walked through the door. The appointment of Pep Guardiola seven years later was the cherry on the cake. So it is hard to think of a fourth straight City title as boring. Hard to view it in such simplistic terms.
What is so tedious about the 2023-24 champions elect? Is it the accurate passing? The sublime finishing? A central midfield player whose reading of the game is unmatched? The invention, the imagination, the ambition? Winning beautifully is the hardest-fought victory of all; Arsène Wenger knew that. Wanting the ball, taking it under pressure, is as brave as any tackle. “This is boring yet difficult,” says Niles Crane in the sitcom Frasier, trying to master ballroom dancing. And City’s style can be, too. Their perfection and precision puts the critics to sleep, but just because City make control look easy, never imagine it is. It’s difficult to play the Guardiola way. It’s certainly not useless beauty.
And Guardiola has changed English football. Changed what the game demands from goalkeepers, messed with the limitations of a full back role. He does not merely accumulate great players. He takes them and makes adjustments, improvements, he stretches and radicalises. Others, such as Gareth Southgate or Jürgen Klopp, lift from him. It was Guardiola who demonstrated that Kyle Walker could become a hybrid centre half, or an inverted midfield player, and this contributed to England’s 2018 World Cup campaign — remember the optimism around that — and the reimagining of Trent Alexander-Arnold. Josko Gvardiol is the latest to receive a Guardiola makeover. He scored five goals in seven matches for City between April 9 and May 11 this season. His previous return, across three entire seasons in Croatian and German football, had been three, three and four. Then there is the job Guardiola has done with Stefan Ortega. Earlier in the season, there was much praise for Klopp’s superb marshalling of Caoimhin Kelleher, increasingly a rival more than just an understudy to Alisson. Yet, quietly, Guardiola performed a similar transformation with Ortega. With Ederson’s season blighted by misfortune, Ortega stepped up and came to City’s rescue against Tottenham Hotspur on Tuesday. “Without him, Arsenal are champions,” Guardiola confirmed. It’s a special achievement. So, apologies, but I’m not locating dullness in City’s assault on history. Brilliance isn’t a snooze. Genius isn’t a snore. Insight and initiative shouldn’t be taken for granted. At the start, I was as ABC as the next man. Anyone but City, indeed. It’s not healthy for a league to be won four times on the spin. We should be proud that, across three centuries, no club has managed to stay at English football’s pinnacle longer than three campaigns. And if West Ham United triumphed in Manchester and ushered in a title win for Arsenal, still, I’d be smiling. But that’s not going to happen and, increasingly, I’m OK with it. City are not dominating in England the way Bayern Munich did in Germany. We have not watched processions in this country. In Bayern’s 11 straight Bundesliga titles, only twice were the runners-up inside eight points of them. Their average winning margin is 12.36 points. City’s past three titles have been won by a combined total of seven points — five, one and one. The most they could win on Sunday is five again — but it is more likely to be two. City are frequently taken to the wire on the last day, and even the last kick.
These aren’t cakewalks. Some may wish to depict the season’s outcome as inevitable, but it’s been intriguing. If this is to be four straight, on three of those occasions a second team was in contention on the last day. Bayern’s first two titles were won by a combined 44 points; the next two by 20; the two after that by 36. No wonder so many presumed Harry Kane only had to alight in Bavaria to be presented with a trophy. Yet the trepidation over City’s fourth is also understandable. Backed by a Gulf state and competent in a way some wealthy rivals are not, what is to stop them running away with it as Bayern did? Well, 115 charges for starters. This time next year we should have a clearer picture of any sanctions for breaking Premier League rules which, if prosecuted successfully, could bust City to a league below. Yet is four truly the crossing of the Rubicon, either way? Unprecedented, certainly. But that is more a testament to the greatness of this City side. There’s plenty that have come close before, without clearing the final hurdle.
Aston Villa were first, five titles in seven years between 1893-94 and 1899-1900, then Huddersfield Town who won three straight, 1923-24 to 1925-26, before coming second to Newcastle United by five points in the fourth season. Had Arsenal not fallen two points short of Everton in 1931-32, they would have won five straight, winning the one before then claiming three afterwards. Fast forward to the 1970s, and Liverpool won two sets of back-to-back titles, split by a second-placed finish to Nottingham Forest in 1977-78, and a run of three straight titles from 1981-82 to 1983-84 was ended by a distant second to Everton in 1984-85. Then it gets serious. United would have won five straight had they not drawn at West Ham United and conceded the 1994-95 campaign to Blackburn Rovers on goal difference. They would have won six had Arsenal not won the league, again by a single point, in 1997-98. And they would have got to four if not missing out to Carlo Ancelotti’s Chelsea in 2009-10, again by a point. It is their quite extraordinary consistency in closing out a season that separates City.
And, in some, constancy induces stupor. Yet, clearly, a number of teams through history have been almost as dominant, and almost as good. But not quite. So that’s not tedium. That’s talent. It’s why, this afternoon, they will stand alone as the best.
Man City’s four in a row is only boring if you think genius is a snooze.Pep Guardiola’s assault on the record books is anything but dull. This side is one of footballing beauty, played by a team of world-class stars and producing some of the most thrilling title races the game has seen.
There are minutes of a Manchester City board meeting in which Brian Marwood is asked about future prospects at the club’s academy. Marwood is one of the unsung heroes of City’s rise. He was part of the recruitment process that brought Sergio Agüero, David Silva and Yaya Touré to the club. He helped shape the modern development strategy.
Marwood replies that they have identified one they think is exceptional, a future England player. “He comes from Stockport and his name is Philip Foden,” he says. Foden was eight at the time. So what is likely to unfold this afternoon is not just about money. There are plenty of Premier League clubs that have money, not least the lot down the road. City were building for this moment pretty much from the day in 2009 when Marwood walked through the door. The appointment of Pep Guardiola seven years later was the cherry on the cake. So it is hard to think of a fourth straight City title as boring. Hard to view it in such simplistic terms.
What is so tedious about the 2023-24 champions elect? Is it the accurate passing? The sublime finishing? A central midfield player whose reading of the game is unmatched? The invention, the imagination, the ambition? Winning beautifully is the hardest-fought victory of all; Arsène Wenger knew that. Wanting the ball, taking it under pressure, is as brave as any tackle. “This is boring yet difficult,” says Niles Crane in the sitcom Frasier, trying to master ballroom dancing. And City’s style can be, too. Their perfection and precision puts the critics to sleep, but just because City make control look easy, never imagine it is. It’s difficult to play the Guardiola way. It’s certainly not useless beauty.
And Guardiola has changed English football. Changed what the game demands from goalkeepers, messed with the limitations of a full back role. He does not merely accumulate great players. He takes them and makes adjustments, improvements, he stretches and radicalises. Others, such as Gareth Southgate or Jürgen Klopp, lift from him. It was Guardiola who demonstrated that Kyle Walker could become a hybrid centre half, or an inverted midfield player, and this contributed to England’s 2018 World Cup campaign — remember the optimism around that — and the reimagining of Trent Alexander-Arnold. Josko Gvardiol is the latest to receive a Guardiola makeover. He scored five goals in seven matches for City between April 9 and May 11 this season. His previous return, across three entire seasons in Croatian and German football, had been three, three and four. Then there is the job Guardiola has done with Stefan Ortega. Earlier in the season, there was much praise for Klopp’s superb marshalling of Caoimhin Kelleher, increasingly a rival more than just an understudy to Alisson. Yet, quietly, Guardiola performed a similar transformation with Ortega. With Ederson’s season blighted by misfortune, Ortega stepped up and came to City’s rescue against Tottenham Hotspur on Tuesday. “Without him, Arsenal are champions,” Guardiola confirmed. It’s a special achievement. So, apologies, but I’m not locating dullness in City’s assault on history. Brilliance isn’t a snooze. Genius isn’t a snore. Insight and initiative shouldn’t be taken for granted. At the start, I was as ABC as the next man. Anyone but City, indeed. It’s not healthy for a league to be won four times on the spin. We should be proud that, across three centuries, no club has managed to stay at English football’s pinnacle longer than three campaigns. And if West Ham United triumphed in Manchester and ushered in a title win for Arsenal, still, I’d be smiling. But that’s not going to happen and, increasingly, I’m OK with it. City are not dominating in England the way Bayern Munich did in Germany. We have not watched processions in this country. In Bayern’s 11 straight Bundesliga titles, only twice were the runners-up inside eight points of them. Their average winning margin is 12.36 points. City’s past three titles have been won by a combined total of seven points — five, one and one. The most they could win on Sunday is five again — but it is more likely to be two. City are frequently taken to the wire on the last day, and even the last kick.
These aren’t cakewalks. Some may wish to depict the season’s outcome as inevitable, but it’s been intriguing. If this is to be four straight, on three of those occasions a second team was in contention on the last day. Bayern’s first two titles were won by a combined 44 points; the next two by 20; the two after that by 36. No wonder so many presumed Harry Kane only had to alight in Bavaria to be presented with a trophy. Yet the trepidation over City’s fourth is also understandable. Backed by a Gulf state and competent in a way some wealthy rivals are not, what is to stop them running away with it as Bayern did? Well, 115 charges for starters. This time next year we should have a clearer picture of any sanctions for breaking Premier League rules which, if prosecuted successfully, could bust City to a league below. Yet is four truly the crossing of the Rubicon, either way? Unprecedented, certainly. But that is more a testament to the greatness of this City side. There’s plenty that have come close before, without clearing the final hurdle.
Aston Villa were first, five titles in seven years between 1893-94 and 1899-1900, then Huddersfield Town who won three straight, 1923-24 to 1925-26, before coming second to Newcastle United by five points in the fourth season. Had Arsenal not fallen two points short of Everton in 1931-32, they would have won five straight, winning the one before then claiming three afterwards. Fast forward to the 1970s, and Liverpool won two sets of back-to-back titles, split by a second-placed finish to Nottingham Forest in 1977-78, and a run of three straight titles from 1981-82 to 1983-84 was ended by a distant second to Everton in 1984-85. Then it gets serious. United would have won five straight had they not drawn at West Ham United and conceded the 1994-95 campaign to Blackburn Rovers on goal difference. They would have won six had Arsenal not won the league, again by a single point, in 1997-98. And they would have got to four if not missing out to Carlo Ancelotti’s Chelsea in 2009-10, again by a point. It is their quite extraordinary consistency in closing out a season that separates City.
And, in some, constancy induces stupor. Yet, clearly, a number of teams through history have been almost as dominant, and almost as good. But not quite. So that’s not tedium. That’s talent. It’s why, this afternoon, they will stand alone as the best.
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