Media Discussion - 2023/24

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Hence 5 places in CL and last night's cheating at the swamp.
5 places due to City's coefficient, the red tops should be thanking up, the ungrateful cunts.

There’s only 5 places cos they couldn’t be certain of 4 & before Chelsea 3 & so on.
 
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Day Newcastle win the league will be Prem’s darkest… unless Kim Jong Un or Taliban have bought clubs by then​


  • Published: 21:43, 14 Aug 2023
  • Updated: 22:00, 14 Aug 2023
THE GLUT of pre-season Premier League predictions was strange in one respect — the widespread idea that Newcastle United would suffer a dip in fortunes.
While most pundits suggested Eddie Howe’s team would finish outside of the top four, filthy-rich state-funded football projects don’t often do ‘dips’.
Newcastle winning the Premier League would be the competition's darkest ever day's darkest ever day
Newcastle winning the Premier League would be the competition's darkest ever day Credit: Rex
And especially one being carried out as intelligently as Newcastle’s.
Reality bit when they demolished upwardly-mobile Aston Villa 5-1, with excellent goalscoring performances from summer signings Sandro Tonali and Harvey Barnes.
And while we shouldn’t reach too many conclusions from one round of matches, the two most ruthless displays of the opening weekend came from the two clubs powered by sovereign wealth.
Manchester City’s victory at Burnley, effectively finished before half-time by two Erling Haaland strikes, was another prime example of the dead weight of financial might flattening decent budget opposition.

This weekend, Newcastle visit Pep Guardiola’s champions for an early-season six-pointer between, for my money, this season’s eventual top two teams.

Pity the poor little American billionaire venture capitalists at Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and Manchester United trying to compete with the vast petrochemical riches of the authoritarian Saudi Arabia and Abu Dhabi regimes.
Their own particular ‘Just Stop Oil’ campaign seems doomed.
City are the great benchmark for Geordie Arabia, as the other club to have made the transition from mid-table sleeping giants to world domination via Middle Eastern black gold.

And Newcastle’s owners are learning from the mistakes made by City during the early years of Abu Dhabi rule.
There have been no loose-cannon signings such as Mario Balotelli, Carlos Tevez and Emmanuel Adebayor.

No Newcastle executives have been calling out Ballon d’Or winners as bottle jobs, like City’s Garry Cook when Kaka refused to join his club.
And the Saudis are determined to avoid City’s scrapes with Financial Fair Play constraints, which have seen them face Uefa, and now, Premier League charges.

The only thing worse would be if Kim Jong Un or the Taliban bought a Premier League club
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The only thing worse would be if Kim Jong Un or the Taliban bought a Premier League clubCredit: Rex
The £30million transfer of Allan Saint-Maximin to Al-Ahli shows Newcastle will circumvent FFP by offloading players at inflated prices to their blood-brother clubs in Saudi Arabia.
This is legal, if not ethical.
But if you expected ethics from the Saudis, you obviously missed the bit about the executions of gay people, repression of women and dismemberment of a dissident journalist.

But it is possible to hate Saudi wealth and influence, while admiring the way Newcastle have progressed since their 2021 takeover.
As the regime’s fourth transfer window nears an end, the Tynesiders’ burgeoning success has been built on sensible recruitment and excellent coaching.
Much was made of Howe improving players, such as Joelinton and Miguel Almiron, who were already in the building before the Saudis arrived in the North East.
Newcastle have learned from Manchester City's mistakes's mistakes
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Newcastle have learned from Manchester City's mistakes Credit: AP
But the gradual shift towards a Saudi-bought team is nearing completion — eight of Saturday’s starting 11 were purchased by the current regime at a cost of a quarter of a billion, with subs Barnes and Tino Livramento setting them back a further £70m.

Tonali, Barnes and young defender Livramento, 20, represent excellent business and the assumption that Newcastle don’t have the squad depth to compete in the Champions League and at the top of the Premier League looks a little lazy.
There were certainly no duffers among Newcastle’s nine subs last weekend. Saturday’s visit to City looks intriguing, provided you hold your nose about the source of funding at both clubs.
Guardiola was always effusive in praising Howe whenever City routinely gubbed his Bournemouth team and now you can fully understand the Catalan’s admiration.
Newcastle are getting under the skin of the old order — especially Liverpool’s Jurgen Klopp, who had a lovely little dig on Sunday.

Asked about the new Premier League rule which states only one member of a coaching team can be in the technical area at any moment, Klopp said that it would only be a problem for one club, Newcastle.
Newcastle manager Eddie Howe and club chiefs have made smart moves
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Newcastle manager Eddie Howe and club chiefs have made smart movesCredit: Rex
The German was voicing the previously unspoken truth that this regulation had been introduced specifically to combat Howe’s irritant lieutenant Jason Tindall, with whom Klopp and his staff had clashed on the Anfield touchline last season.
These annoyances will grow as Newcastle rise beyond the reaches of Liverpool, United, Arsenal and Chelsea.
The Toon will eventually usurp City — perhaps only after Guardiola finally leaves Manchester — because they are England’s richest club and ultimately it always comes down to money.

That will represent the Premier League’s darkest possible moment — unless Kim Jong Un, Vladimir Putin or the Taliban are ever allowed to buy English clubs.
It took Abu Dhabi three years to reach the Champions League, five to win the title and 15 to lift the European Cup.
The Saudis are already ahead of that curve — because they are doing it smarter.
Why are newspapers exempt from hate speech laws?
 
Not directly related, but I was astonished that BBC North West news this lunch time did not have a word to say about Leighs challenge cup win. A rough equivalent would be Burnley winning the FA cup, huge news by any standards but the BBC blanked it. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE !!!
But they had a long segment in the evening edition at 6.30 interviewing both the Captain and the Chairman/Owner whatever in the studio. It was an interesting interview.
 
Not sure which thread to post this in. I have just read that 3 Burnley players apparently captained Haaland in fantasy football this week. A couple of questions (1) how do people know this? (2) how can it be allowed (is it allowed) given the issues about betting on football?
I was in a Fantasy football thing last year but it was only for our own enjoyment and 'rivalry' no money was changing hands just satisfaction. Maybe they are doing a similar one? Or it could be for charity. :-)
 
Wow.
City have shown they will conveniently ignore this type of racist article.
Not so sure that the Saudi's are so relaxed about such media coverage ?
The article mentions how Newcastle will "learn from City's failures such as signing Tevez, Mario and Adebayor".
Perhaps the latter did not succeed at City, but didn't Tevez & Mario win an odd medal with us ?
 
Wow.
City have shown they will conveniently ignore this type of racist article.
Not so sure that the Saudi's are so relaxed about such media coverage ?
The article mentions how Newcastle will "learn from City's failures such as signing Tevez, Mario and Adebayor".
Perhaps the latter did not succeed at City, but didn't Tevez & Mario win an odd medal with us ?
“Poor little Chelsea trying to compete”, unbelievable
 
Wow.
City have shown they will conveniently ignore this type of racist article.
Not so sure that the Saudi's are so relaxed about such media coverage ?
The article mentions how Newcastle will "learn from City's failures such as signing Tevez, Mario and Adebayor".
Perhaps the latter did not succeed at City, but didn't Tevez & Mario win an odd medal with us ?
Plus Tevez sat and communicated with me on a train back from a match in London!! So that was not a failure. ;-) :-)



I can't say talked because he wasn't that fluent and it was a case of him smiling at me and we sort of communicated in a type of pigeon English as they say.... am I still allowed to say that? Sorry if I'm not. I mean no disrespect.
 
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