Media Discussion - 2023/24

[Fordyboy46]

Carragher and Neville need knocking down a peg or two, both up themselves too much at the minute. I can see Micah going the same way unfortunately

 

[Fordyboy46]

And when Micah talks about City, say City you bellend not Man City

 

[LongsightM13]

Like I said three years ago, Carragher is an absolute fucking scumbag
He’s got a brass neck trying to lecture anybody about ethics and finances

Post in thread 'Media Thread 2020/21'
https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/media-thread-2020-21.347370/post-13374137

 

[tweety]

Like I said three years ago, Carragher is an absolute fucking scumbag
He’s got a brass neck trying to lecture anybody about ethics and finances

Post in thread 'Media Thread 2020/21'
https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/media-thread-2020-21.347370/post-13374137

I hope he went back and put a jackhammer through it. He deserved chinning for that.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Agreed. The old "nation state owned" line rolled out as fact, did this "journalist" contact the club for comment and/or clarity on that point? If not, ban the scouse c*nt.

The “nation state” phrase is a racist trope. It suggests Sheikh Mansour can’t make his own investments. It implies that “all Arabs are the same.” Carragher is just a racist liar.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Blunt Instrument of Media Bans

Banning some of the media has been much discussed on this forum. The pros, the cons, or just wanting retribution have been put forward by many in different terms. Do we embrace them, try and love`em, work with them or fcuk`em?

The out of towners across in Trafford have decided on the latter approach, again.

This is part of what Sam Wallace, a Chief Sports Writer, has said today -

"Those who use the blunt instrument of media control that is banning newspapers do so on the basis of a presumed power dynamic that, with his current track record, and Manchester United’s current position, simply does not exist for Erik ten Hag.

The bans issued by United on Tuesday to various media were a bad move. One notes United’s explanation that stories should first be run past the club yet, with this reaction, the embattled Ten Hag has turned a one-day story into a long-running saga with the potential to become more toxic.

The bans for Sky Sports News, the Daily Mirror, ESPN and the Manchester Evening News appear to have flowed from a manager’s wish to wrestle back control, and one cannot blame him for wanting that. Yet this is one battle he and the club would have been better served avoiding.

There is much written about Sir Alex Ferguson’s appetite for banning media, a pretty inglorious era all said, when newspapers and journalists – myself included – would have been better served standing together. Nevertheless, the Ferguson approach of the early 2000s, before the traditional media’s digital revolution, before social media, and before the advent of the footballer as mini-corporation in his own right, are utterly redundant in the modern landscape.

Ten Hag might as well have his players running up and down terraces or passing round a restorative half-time Woodbine. The old rules do not apply, and one doubts whether they were ever that effective anyway.

The bans handed down under Ferguson never stopped what he saw as unfavourable coverage, as Ten Hag will find out. "

The above extract is quite insightful.

Liverpool FC are probably the one club that does exercise some form of `control` over the media. There are historical reasons and of course, the FA Cup Semi Final at Sheffield. Despite all their many well known indiscretions, LFC still get away with so much.

For many of today`s `journalists, writers, and social media contributors, it is all part of the game. Most of them are still `lads`who get paid to watch footie and have trips to big matches abroad. They do not really care about who or what they write about as long as it garners interest.

This, combined with institutional bias, self interest, and a lack of accountability, is what is impacting on City. These days it is also about stimulating reactions and clicks to justify advertising income. Banning the worse culprits usually results in those excluded doubling down on self justification as we have witnessed.

The Treble Winners have to keep on winning and building our power base. This is probably the best answer.

Whatever Sam Wallace thinks being banned doesn’t help the career of any hack. The mainstream media is dying on its feet and clubs will increasingly treat them with contempt. Wallace is bluffing.

 

[half & half derby scarf]

For once i'm with United on the ban. The media are little more than comics these days. Witness the speed they turned the Hooper scandal into an attack on City.
Totally irrelevant to anyone with an independent viewpoint and should be banned for the propaganda they put out masquerading as journalism.

 

[neel]

 

[freshie]

 

[cheekybids]

Think Savage took it rather well myself - what an accusation that is........... :-)

His best response was I get them for free, he should have stayed on that course. Maybe even said you don’t now hard it is to keep to the speed limit in a Ferrari…..