Media discussion - 2024/25

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give it to gordon said:
Anger towards Liverpool fans’ stance on the anthem reached a peak in 2022 when supporters booed God Save The Queen before that year’s FA Cup final, also against Chelsea. Klopp defended their right to do so, saying the club’s supporters were “wonderful people” who “wouldn’t do it unless there’s a reason for it”.
Not everything is better than in the past, but thank God we have the freedom of free speech and freedom of opinion. It was clear something like this would happen, everybody knew it. That is fine, nothing else happened, there were no chants"

Interesting free speech doesn't exist if it's to criticise the dippers !
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Or the government on certain issues.
 
Micky Blue said:
There was an article in telegraph, but paywalled so not overly sure what it said.

I did see some hilarious Liverpool sites though defending why they boo it.
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Does it nned defending? or reporting on? Many mancs don't sing it or like or respect the king, along with people.all across the country

Half.of the teams don't sing it including several representing England. (in not only football)

Biggest non story in football.
 
urban genie said:
Does it nned defending? or reporting on? Many mancs don't sing it or like or respect the king, along with people.all across the country

Half.of the teams don't sing it including several representing England. (in not only football)

Biggest non story in football.
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There’s quite a difference between not singing and booing.
 
Pubteam Lomas said:
I laughed when he said, 'I'm impartial but my son is Liverpool fan that's why I was at the final'.
Yeah right Rory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sutton said 'so you had a half and half shirt then?????????????????'
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He’s the worst of the worst for me with his pretend impartiality.
He throws in the phrase “owned by a nation state” every single time he’s on there.
@manimanc just summed him up perfectly.
 
chesterbells said:
He’s the worst of the worst for me with his pretend impartiality.
He throws in the phrase “owned by a nation state” every single time he’s on there.
@manimanc just summed him up perfectly.
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I notice you post every Monday when he is on the Chapman show :)
He's been my number 1 despised guy in the media for a long time. Master of the subtle dig or snide comment.
Micah Richards actually outed him as a LIverpool fan on there a couple of years back and took the piss but obviously his allegiances well know before then and posted on here many times re his Anfield Wrap associations etc.

This is from about 10 years ago:

"Do you ever have any problems because of who you support?

No, it’s not that important. I support Liverpool, and I always have, and I’m not ashamed of that. But what I should say is that I’m a Liverpool fan from my childhood, I consider myself probably slightly lapsed as a fan. It’s really hard as a journalist – you try and explain this on Twitter and people don’t react well, but you meet people and you work with teams and you develop friendships and relationships with people at those teams. Not necessarily players and managers but it can be people behind the scenes, and you tend to want them to do well.

So I really like Leicester’s press office because they’re really helpful, so I’m delighted that they’re top. My Dad’s a Leicester fan as well so that helps. I like Roberto Martinez so I’m really happy when Everton do well. There’s other clubs I like less, and I like them losing. So you are biased but it’s a more complicated thing than people think. I get on really well with City and I have done for years, but you quite regularly get people saying ‘You hate City like everyone in the media’ – I love Man City, their food is amazing, their press people seem really nice, their press lounge is comfortable, I’ve got two or three good friends there. So it’s more complicated than just saying ‘I am a Liverpool fan and that is it."

Funny enough I heard him on something else the other week describing himself as a "lapsed" Liverpool fan. That is fucking hilarious - simply a spineless piece of shit.
 
Onholiday(somemightsay) said:
Ollie Holt appears to be writing slander on the 115 again but I can't see it due to the pay wall on the Daily Mail - I'll await some guru that can access it for free........
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"The only winner of Manchester City's 115 charges trial is already clear - and it's bad news for the future of English football, writes OLIVER HOLT"

The judgment on the 115 charges brought against Manchester City has been expected ‘imminently’ for some time. On February 8, City manager Pep Guardiola said it would come in one month. That was nearly six weeks ago.

The whole Byzantine farrago, shrouded in absurd levels of secrecy, scaffolded by threats and grandstanding and mystery, has sometimes seemed eerily similar to episodes from Franz Kafka’s The Trial. Resolution rests tantalisingly and torturously out of reach.

City’s executives and particularly their legal team, like to portray the club as the Josef K of these labyrinthine manoeuvrings, the victim of a shadowy higher power, but the truth is that it is English football fans who are Josef K, increasingly bewildered, increasingly impotent, increasingly disillusioned.

There are some things we already know, even before we know the verdicts on the 115 charges. Or however many charges there are. Estimates seem to differ but we know that the lawyers have already won. Not just City’s lawyers or the Premier League’s lawyers. Both sides’ lawyers. All of them.

Judging by the sheer grandiosity of his pronouncements, City’s general counsel, Simon Cliff, seems to believe he actually runs English football now. Maybe he actually does run English football. He certainly seems to have Richard Masters, the Premier League’s rather beleaguered chief executive, right where he wants him.

Cliff is a faintly Musk-ish figure, who appears to be fond of shouting the odds and calling the shots. He tells the other 19 Premier League clubs what is legal and what is illegal and when to fall in line and when to disobey. The impression he gives is very much that City run English football now.
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TinFoilHat said:
"The only winner of Manchester City's 115 charges trial is already clear - and it's bad news for the future of English football, writes OLIVER HOLT"
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I don't recall seeing any threats. I certainly don't get the impression Cliff is shouting any odds or running English football, he merely gave his opinion to the other 19 clubs that the rules remained unlawful and asked the PL to wait until the judgement was issue. Instead, the PL ran with the revised rules, most likely egged on by the red tops.
 
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