Media discussion - 2025/26

The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
The impartiality thing really is a nonsense that benefits nobody. Not opening Brexit stuff on yet another thread but, in 2016, there was real difficulty finding economists who thought it was a good idea. And yet, they thought impartiality meant they had one from each side on every programme, giving the impression that there was a 50/50 split of economists views.

Look at how often a mad think tank rep/journalist is on politics today, or QT.
Oakeshott, Hartley-Brewer, Andrews, Tim Stanley and Camilla Tominay all appear in the top 15 most appearances on QT…
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There is less of an issue with QT, as it’s a panel… labour, conservative, libdem, reform/ukip and then a random.
It’s a talking/discussion programme, exactly the format where varying viewpoints can be put.

The news with one talking head view then the opposite in the name of impartiality is the absolute worst. It’s the opposite of impartiality, it’s just black/white and offers nothing, because it’s a few minutes of verbal disagreement between only 2 views interpreting the news.
The issue of ‘impartiality’ at the bbc came about because they generally reported facts, and the govt of the day didn’t like that… especially when the facts weren’t good for the govt, however the bbc then was accused (rightly or wrongly) of favouring particular viewpoints on the facts … leading to the edict that they always must have a different view presented. This leads to the complete imbalance of views presented as a proportion of the population.

Getting rid of talking heads, or stop going live to a reporter who just repeats (mainly) what the newscaster has already said , would be a start… as long as the news was reported as facts without…spit… spin.

News should be facts, not opinions.
 
Moss Side's Finest said:
Ok, I'll agree to disagree with the many others you refer to.

I don't think every article is anti city at all, there are still some factual, sensible journalists out there. How're, I do think generally speaking there is most certainly a negative pattern in the vast majority of city related articles, whereas for other teams there is often a much more positive spin put on even somewhat negative subject matters.
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"whereas for other teams there is often a much more positive spin put on even somewhat negative subject matters."

Articles like this!

www.bbc.co.uk

Benjamin Sesko: How are Manchester United able to afford £74m striker?

Recent news surrounding Manchester United's finances has not been positive - which will have left fans wondering how they are able to finance a move for RB Leipzig striker Benjamin Sesko.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
mexico1970 said:
No such thing exists, there is no impartiality anywhere it's just left or right but you do get people trying to dress themselves up as peacekeepers but they are lying.

It's a binary world.
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And a poorer one for that.
I very much miss shades of grey: Finding some benefit in a different point of view, people being open to change when the evidence changes, being to hold a different view without it meaning you don’t speak to each other anymore.
 
Fancy a job ? The search is on.

Regeneration of those areas in need is very important. We have witnessed the exemplar in East Manchester and the success of Manchester City Council, CITY, the community and private sector. Naturally others want to copy it.

Out of town that is what they are now doing.

https://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/hunt-on-for-old-trafford-regen-project-director/#wait_approval
Hunt on for Old Trafford regen project director
The successful candidate will work alongside Lord Sebastian Coe to lead the regeneration of the land around Manchester United’s ground into a mixed-use scheme featuring 15,000 homes. Applications for the role of project director, who will be responsible for delivering the strategic vision for the regeneration of Old Trafford and developing and implementing a business plan, are now open ...
www.placenorthwest.co.uk

Manchester and Salford have created their own Visions and master plans which have been successfully implemented. Now Trafford, the council that has never liked to spend, wants to try and catch up. They have drafted in the outsider Coe who was one of those in London who criticised Manchester`s Olympic and Commonwealth bids. The latter in 2002 was hugely successful despite his sniping.

Through Coe, absent American and Monaco billionaire owners are trying to get a new, Old Trafford on the cheap. The stadium is not essential to the wider regeneration despite the storyline currently being plied.

The rich owners are not putting in any of their wealth. The tax exile in Monaco is trying to get public funding of £400m to be used for land acquisition which is just part of the significant costs of moving a major freight terminal out of Greater Manchester to Merseyside for the large benefit of a private company registered in the Cayman Islands.

Coe is no friend of Manchester nor Greater Manchester. He was a great athlete but that was a very long time ago. In present time he is now a PR front man.

The truth is that this wider regeneration scheme can be brought forward without a football club that already has a stadium, which does not have the land required for an alternative, claims it does not have the money, and wants the pubic to open a big purse.

Graham Stringer MP has penned a forthright piece on this - see the united thread.

Awareness of these shenanigans must be raised.
 
Gazza said:
My go to topic is 'The Troubles', I really enjoy reading about every aspect of that time (if enjoy is the right word for such a terrible thing) and have a bookcase full of books dedicated to the topic - Having lived through its modern era (mid 60s to late 90s) I only realised after reading umpteen books how one-sided the British media coverage was.
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I haven't got any sort of dog in the province, so to speak. But I genuinely was horrified to learn the story of the Miami Show band massacre the anniversary of which was 50 years ago.

Didn't see much on mainstream news about the anniversary mainly on the Irish News. Quite vile that UDR and UVF and probably British Army coluded to murder a cross community group and try and frame them as bomb runners. The lack of coverage of this atrocity is telling.
 
Most of last night's BBC News at 10 was given over to their in-house investigation into the boat smugglers.
A year of undercover reporting and chasing suspected criminals. At the end, there were no arrests and apparently no follow up by British or French authorities. Why weren't the police present when they identified a smuggler in Birmingham? Not quite sure what was achieved.
As an aside, I'm not quite sure if the BBC's role (as a news reporter) should include do their own in-depth investigating. I don't see how they can be impartial to their own reports.
 
Bert Swift said:
Fancy a job ? The search is on.

Regeneration of those areas in need is very important. We have witnessed the exemplar in East Manchester and the success of Manchester City Council, CITY, the community and private sector. Naturally others want to copy it.

Out of town that is what they are now doing.

https://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/hunt-on-for-old-trafford-regen-project-director/#wait_approval
Hunt on for Old Trafford regen project director
The successful candidate will work alongside Lord Sebastian Coe to lead the regeneration of the land around Manchester United’s ground into a mixed-use scheme featuring 15,000 homes. Applications for the role of project director, who will be responsible for delivering the strategic vision for the regeneration of Old Trafford and developing and implementing a business plan, are now open ...
www.placenorthwest.co.uk

Manchester and Salford have created their own Visions and master plans which have been successfully implemented. Now Trafford, the council that has never liked to spend, wants to try and catch up. They have drafted in the outsider Coe who was one of those in London who criticised Manchester`s Olympic and Commonwealth bids. The latter in 2002 was hugely successful despite his sniping.

Through Coe, absent American and Monaco billionaire owners are trying to get a new, Old Trafford on the cheap. The stadium is not essential to the wider regeneration despite the storyline currently being plied.

The rich owners are not putting in any of their wealth. The tax exile in Monaco is trying to get public funding of £400m to be used for land acquisition which is just part of the significant costs of moving a major freight terminal out of Greater Manchester to Merseyside for the large benefit of a private company registered in the Cayman Islands.

Coe is no friend of Manchester nor Greater Manchester. He was a great athlete but that was a very long time ago. In present time he is now a PR front man.

The truth is that this wider regeneration scheme can be brought forward without a football club that already has a stadium, which does not have the land required for an alternative, claims it does not have the money, and wants the pubic to open a big purse.

Graham Stringer MP has penned a forthright piece on this - see the united thread.

Awareness of these shenanigans must be raised.
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I think the good thing is they are so hard up for money they need someone flexible enough to be a project director by day and a fucking clown at the circus by night, good use of their meagre resources
 
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BBC football website today- how can man united afford sesko mbeumo and cunha - apparently it is (and I quote) “ by clever financing”. I assume this is their use of suspicious offshore companies for loading their uk costs, right up there with chelsea selling hotels and their women’s football team to themselves, or arsrnal living off illegal (in PSR) interest free shareholder loans to finance their transfers. Fuck me we put a fiver in the wrong place in the accounts and it’s looked into, these other corrupt fuckers can do what they want, however dodgy. Football is bent
 
BringBackSwales said:
BBC football website today- how can man united afford sesko mbeumo and cunha - apparently it is (and I quote) “ by clever financing”. I assume this is their use of suspicious offshore companies for loading their uk costs, right up there with chelsea selling hotels and their women’s football team to themselves, or arsrnal living off illegal (in PSR) interest free shareholder loans to finance their transfers. Fuck me we put a fiver in the wrong place in the accounts and it’s looked into, these other corrupt fuckers can do what they want, however dodgy. Football is bent
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Who ever posted this, the highest rated comment, which tells you everyone bar Rag fans are sick to death with the BBC and the Rags, looks right. Personally I find it poor that you have this and the Issac to Dippers ie where does he fit in, before any agreement is made between the teams.

Articles coming up:

"He might be going to Man Utd. But who is Benjamin Sesko?"

"Sesko set for Man Utd. How did we get here?"

"How Sesko could transform Man Utd"

"How Sesko is the perfect player for Amorim's Man Utd"

"Sesko, Cunha, or Mbuemo? How Man Utd will line-up"

"Sesko: made in Slovenia, destination Manchester"

"Why Sesko won't be another expensive flop"

"Sesko, "it's my dream move""
 
Fiftyyearsandcounting said:
Most of last night's BBC News at 10 was given over to their in-house investigation into the boat smugglers.
A year of undercover reporting and chasing suspected criminals. At the end, there were no arrests and apparently no follow up by British or French authorities. Why weren't the police present when they identified a smuggler in Birmingham? Not quite sure what was achieved.
As an aside, I'm not quite sure if the BBC's role (as a news reporter) should include do their own in-depth investigating. I don't see how they can be impartial to their own reports.
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I thought that myself why no police? The guy just ran off … and of course they used our licence money to pay the smugglers what a waste of time and money
 
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