Media discussion - 2025/26

Tracking back said:
Love that.

I think you might be onto something there PL 59 especially, with our younger fans voting with their feet against the BBC & Sky.

I'm getting on a bit myself in years, so I tend to rely on "Sly" Sports (as I like to call them) for my updates, transfer gossip and what not.

However, my two lads who are big City fans (obviously) will often shake their heads as they walk past me while I'm berating some mouthpiece spouting off about Liverpool's net spend or how good it's going to be this season for the rags.

They have nothing but contempt for Sly Sports and the mainstream media. In fact they refer to Sky Sports as CBeebies for old men. They've got a point to be fair because the bloody thing is on a one hour loop.

They seem to get far more accurate news from other platforms and they often tell me about a signing or some breaking news long before it appears on the yellow band running across the bottom of my TV screen.

Anyway, as you rightly pointed out the majority of our next generation can see what's going on and it shouldn't be that long now before we see a new order throughout the footballing fraternity.
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I think something that's seldom mentioned is that the groundswell of "support" they achieved following the Munich disaster is dying off.

Growing up in the 60s my dad told me about the anxious wait to find out if Duncan Edwards would survive and then the coffins coming home whilst people lined the streets. It meant something to me even though I was a City fan and clearly influenced a whole generation of neutrals. Those that can remember it, like my dad, are disappearing and, with it, I think, the sentiment that they turned into a marketing tool.
 
Platt Lane 59 said:
Agree completely with you.
But, look at the BBC's obsession (Simon Stone especially) with the Trafford Tramps and how other football fans are getting pissed off with their continual coverage.
Younger fans are voting with their feet, with both the BBC & Sky losing subscribers/viewers.
Think Sky will surely soon realise that Neville & Carragher have had their day and will get new anchor persons & match commentators...
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Maybe but SKy management will still be cunts, and knowing their typical target morons, will employ other braindead ****(s) to do their work.

Clinton Morrison immediately come to mind !
 
Newman Noggs said:
I think something that's seldom mentioned is that the groundswell of "support" they achieved following the Munich disaster is dying off.

Growing up in the 60s my dad told me about the anxious wait to find out if Duncan Edwards would survive and then the coffins coming home whilst people lined the streets. It meant something to me even though I was a City fan and clearly influenced a whole generation of neutrals. Those that can remember it, like my dad, are disappearing and, with it, I think, the sentiment that they turned into a marketing tool.
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Having seen first hand the sympathy from all sides when the Munich disaster happened I am not sure the memory of it will ever be allowed to fade, as you rightly point out it is a marketing tool now more than a quiet memorable day. I think more likely the influence of ex players in the media will fade. How long will Sky be patsy to neville doing his own thing on say the overlap with only 1.5 million viewers on youtube whilst his main national voice is on sky with many millions of viewers. Why should they promote someone who will take viewers from them. The car crash that was rooneys debut on motd will not be allowed to continue, if as the bbc wish, the programme is to become more about analysis than viewing snippets of matches. If those two get binned who has come after them playing for the rags that could be considered a 'star' big enough to attract viewers with their views. When City are cleared of these ludicrous charges I think Khaldoon and the board, with the Sheikhs blessing, will take the reins off and we can expect over the next 17 years similar growth to what we have witnessed these past 17 years, there will be a desire to get their own back. If the cartel are screaming now they will be hysterically mad soon.;-)
 
Gordyola said:
Submitted a FOI about Simon Stone's role to the BBC
Hello

This is a request for information under the FoI Act 2000 which has a public body BBC is mandated to supply

I would like information on the following for the period 2010 to 2025 inclusive

Simon Stone is titled as Chief Football News Reporter

1) What is Stone’s brief reporting football as a football news reporter

2) The leagues he covers, Is it just England or the UK or Europe?

3) Is Stone based at BBC Salford?

4) Which PL clubs are under the remit of Stone?

5) Stone attends PL manager’s press conferences in his BBC role, for which clubs?

6) Does Stone attend any other press conferences outside of the PL

7) Supply the figures for the number of press conferences he attended broken down to individual clubs

8) How many articles has Stone published broken down to individuals clubs

9) How many pre and post season tours has Stone travelled to, broken down to individual clubs in the last 15 years

10) How many times as Stone travelled to cover a club in a UEFA competition broken down to individual clubs in the last 15 years

11) How many matches has Stone attended in his professional role broken down to individual clubs in the last 15 years

12) Which football club is Stone a fan of? This is relevant to establish a bias which is contradictory to the BBC Charter


Here's is their reply
We have carefully considered your request and concluded that it is clear from your de-

scription of the information you are seeking that if the BBC held information of the kind

you have asked for, it would all be held for the purposes of journalism, art or literature.

The FOI Act does not apply to information held by the BBC for any of those purposes. This

is explained in an information sheet enclosed with this letter. To be clear, in this case we

have not searched for any information since any that we found would be non-disclosable,

and the searches would not serve any useful purpose.

However on this occasion, we are happy to voluntarily provide the below information in

response to your request:

“Simon Stone's role is chief football news reporter for BBC Sport. He reports on some of

the biggest stories in the world of football and is also one of a group of journalists that

cover specific Premier League clubs. Part of Simon's role is to cover key events involving

Manchester United, and this is the same as our other journalists following their assigned

club at key times. We can assure you that we’re always mindful of the costs behind putting

together our output, while at the same time trying to provide the best possible service to

audiences.”

Ive followed up with a request for a list of journalist allocated to specific PL clubs and how many tours they have been on


They have denied right of internal appeal, so I will take it to the information commissioner
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Go get the cunts mate….kudos
 
Michael Vaughan - what a bellend. I like Wednesday and know more of their fans than any other club, but they get crowds of 20 odd thousand, which would be considerably less if they had to fork out £40 for kids and best part of £80 for adults. Just shows the power of misinformation on the internet that people believe this no fans shite
 
Groke said:
Michael Vaughan - what a bellend. I like Wednesday and know more of their fans than any other club, but they get crowds of 20 odd thousand, which would be considerably less if they had to fork out £40 for kids and best part of £80 for adults. Just shows the power of misinformation on the internet that people believe this no fans shite
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Always thought he was a Sheff Utd fan, anyway born in Manchester and plays for the Yorkies, bloody traitor.
 
Newman Noggs said:
I think something that's seldom mentioned is that the groundswell of "support" they achieved following the Munich disaster is dying off.

Growing up in the 60s my dad told me about the anxious wait to find out if Duncan Edwards would survive and then the coffins coming home whilst people lined the streets. It meant something to me even though I was a City fan and clearly influenced a whole generation of neutrals. Those that can remember it, like my dad, are disappearing and, with it, I think, the sentiment that they turned into a marketing tool.
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I'm in full agreement with you NN.

From 1958 through the 60s, 70s and late 80s there was a reverence surrounding the club which brought with it as you rightly say a groundswell of support from fans home and abroad.

This changed (in my opinion) during the inception of the premier league where the focus of the club transitioned from a less macabre and melancholy tone to one of youthful promise (class of 92) and ushered in the rise of the Phoenix so to speak.

The timing for them couldn't have been any better, the big money TV rights were starting to pour in and this famous and tragic English club that so many people had heard about was being broadcast to a wider audience.

Fast forward thirty two years and we now have a situation where any remnants of their past is fading expediently and (as you alluded to) with it any sentiment.

Of course the mainstream media will continue to work hard to keep them front and center, purely for financial gain by keeping the rhetoric alive and kicking. However, I wouldn't be at all surprised if we see a decline from the media as we move into a more social driven media by much younger participants.
 
Mike_F said:
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Another one to add to the list of clubs that have more fans than us.
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Said Michael Vaughan who grew up in Sheffield as a Wednesday fan. When asked where he got this info from he said he did an in depth survey last season at Sheff Wed v Huddersfield and it was clear there were far more Wednesday than City fans there. In fact, he believes there are also more Huddersfield fans than Man City
 
Colin Bells Boots said:
Maybe but SKy management will still be cunts, and knowing their typical target morons, will employ other braindead ****(s) to do their work.

Clinton Morrison immediately come to mind !
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Yes, Clinton may not be the sharpest knife in the cutlery draw.
But, I don't feel he has the (barely hidden) agenda that the sly Sky duo spout.
As I only watch a limited amount of Sky, in the pub, I haven't seen any of their other pundits or commentators that are an obvious choice to replace them ?
 
Platt Lane 59 said:
Yes, Clinton may not be the sharpest knife in the cutlery draw.
But, I don't feel he has the (barely hidden) agenda that the sly Sky duo spout.
As I only watch a limited amount of Sky, in the pub, I haven't seen any of their other pundits or commentators that are an obvious choice to replace them ?
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Fananalyst are taking over
 
Gordyola said:
Submitted a FOI about Simon Stone's role to the BBC
Hello

This is a request for information under the FoI Act 2000 which has a public body BBC is mandated to supply

I would like information on the following for the period 2010 to 2025 inclusive

Simon Stone is titled as Chief Football News Reporter

1) What is Stone’s brief reporting football as a football news reporter

2) The leagues he covers, Is it just England or the UK or Europe?

3) Is Stone based at BBC Salford?

4) Which PL clubs are under the remit of Stone?

5) Stone attends PL manager’s press conferences in his BBC role, for which clubs?

6) Does Stone attend any other press conferences outside of the PL

7) Supply the figures for the number of press conferences he attended broken down to individual clubs

8) How many articles has Stone published broken down to individuals clubs

9) How many pre and post season tours has Stone travelled to, broken down to individual clubs in the last 15 years

10) How many times as Stone travelled to cover a club in a UEFA competition broken down to individual clubs in the last 15 years

11) How many matches has Stone attended in his professional role broken down to individual clubs in the last 15 years

12) Which football club is Stone a fan of? This is relevant to establish a bias which is contradictory to the BBC Charter


Here's is their reply
We have carefully considered your request and concluded that it is clear from your de-

scription of the information you are seeking that if the BBC held information of the kind

you have asked for, it would all be held for the purposes of journalism, art or literature.

The FOI Act does not apply to information held by the BBC for any of those purposes. This

is explained in an information sheet enclosed with this letter. To be clear, in this case we

have not searched for any information since any that we found would be non-disclosable,

and the searches would not serve any useful purpose.

However on this occasion, we are happy to voluntarily provide the below information in

response to your request:

“Simon Stone's role is chief football news reporter for BBC Sport. He reports on some of

the biggest stories in the world of football and is also one of a group of journalists that

cover specific Premier League clubs. Part of Simon's role is to cover key events involving

Manchester United, and this is the same as our other journalists following their assigned

club at key times. We can assure you that we’re always mindful of the costs behind putting

together our output, while at the same time trying to provide the best possible service to

audiences.”

Ive followed up with a request for a list of journalist allocated to specific PL clubs and how many tours they have been on


They have denied right of internal appeal, so I will take it to the information commissioner
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Good on yer!
 
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