Media Thread 2017/18

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Blue Hefner said:
It goes to a wider point of ‘mind games’ and ‘click bait’

No reasonable person would buy a copy of the Mirror on the strength of that headline, surely? But would they buy it if it was and intelligent debate/analysis of a certain game, team or season as a whole?

I don’t know the answer. But they all seem to put a lot of effort in to writing rubbish (about City and others) so why not spend time writing pieces that people buy?

What they might spend in cash and man hours, they would surely make back in credibility and longevity?
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Pep touched on this in an interview about how journalism had improved in Spain now people were taking about events on the pitch, not off it.

I think detailed analysis of a game is a lot more difficult to write and I do think people like sensationalism in their everyday life as it detractiom from more humdrum events.
 
karen7 said:
we must have a game tomorrow and are doing well

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They're definitely in it for Pep. He's the best manager in the world. If you had limitless funds, you'd be crazy to not at least try to get him. Doubt Pep would wanna leave though. At least not before seeing his project here come into full bloom.
 
Blue Hefner said:
It goes to a wider point of ‘mind games’ and ‘click bait’

No reasonable person would buy a copy of the Mirror on the strength of that headline, surely? But would they buy it if it was and intelligent debate/analysis of a certain game, team or season as a whole?

I don’t know the answer. But they all seem to put a lot of effort in to writing rubbish (about City and others) so why not spend time writing pieces that people buy?

What they might spend in cash and man hours, they would surely make back in credibility and longevity?
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I agree wholeheartedly, but that’s probably a wider point about the tabloid media in general. It’s not a new development, or specific to City, but yes football journalism in particular in this country is generally pretty poor.
 
Ric said:
Exactly. Can you imagine, say, Sterling and Aguero huddled in the dressing room saying “Shit, David McDonnell in The Mirror thinks the gaffer is off to PSG. We’re fucked.”?

If they even noticed the story, which they probably wouldn’t, they’d presumably laugh about when the same paper reported that either of them were going to Arsenal as part of a Sanchez swap.
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I seem to remember, only 2 months ago, the same papers were full of Maureen going to PSG. He was ‘openly courting them’ and ‘would be gone by the end of the season, if not before’ according to some.
It’s only to be expected, in this country at least, when you have the two most successful managers of the last 10 years, not only in the same league, but in the same city (sort of, anyway) they will be trying to write about them. One week they’ll be signing extensions and the next they’ll be leaving. What it reveals is that the vast majority of our journalists actually don’t know anything that is going on so they make it up. A negative story about Maureen is quickly presumed to be well researched fact on BM, a negative about Pep is presumed to be the exact opposite. This is obviously interchangeable on ragcafe, rawk and many others.
The fact is, it’s being discussed and linked on here, and on their site, so he’s getting some mileage out of it and the rags will be clicking it as they’re desperate for it to be true.
 
Pep took over a b team heading nowhere and transformed them into winning games before getting the Barcelona job and kept them up through determination, guile, wisdom and grit. Some City fans (my family) still didn't grasp how wondrous he was after I told them and said we should get fat sam or pulis..
 
hutton who blue said:
Pep took over a b team heading nowhere and transformed them into winning games before getting the Barcelona job and kept them up through determination, guile, wisdom and grit. Some City fans (my family) still didn't grasp how wondrous he was after I told them and said we should get fat sam or pulis..
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You clearly need to do a better job of picking your family.
 
Ric said:
I agree wholeheartedly, but that’s probably a wider point about the tabloid media in general. It’s not a new development, or specific to City, but yes football journalism in particular in this country is generally pretty poor.
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It certainly has their target audience in the group marked 'die hard, argue but make no sense, never go but buy the wallpaper and duvet cover , part of the 697 million' frothing in the comments, especially with the oil comments...how they're still hurting at not getting Pep
 
Blue Hefner said:
It goes to a wider point of ‘mind games’ and ‘click bait’

No reasonable person would buy a copy of the Mirror on the strength of that headline, surely? But would they buy it if it was and intelligent debate/analysis of a certain game, team or season as a whole?

I don’t know the answer. But they all seem to put a lot of effort in to writing rubbish (about City and others) so why not spend time writing pieces that people buy?

What they might spend in cash and man hours, they would surely make back in credibility and longevity?
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Most people buy papers out of habit, the same one they have always read, I find.
Me dad is 65 and buys the mirror, has done since he started work at 16, something to read on his break then, now it's just habbit, regulary says it full of crap, but get's it anyway, same many of the elder people at work, come in with same paper every day.

Dying out now (buying a paper) with online, and online stories needs sensational headlines to get the clicks.

A lot of these people on forums/social media regurgatatimg the bullshit about us don't read the stories just the headline and form an opinion.
 
urban genie said:
Most people buy papers out of habit, the same one they have always read, I find.
Me dad is 65 and buys the mirror, has done since he started work at 16, something to read on his break then, now it's just habbit, regulary says it full of crap, but get's it anyway, same many of the elder people at work, come in with same paper every day.

Dying out now (buying a paper) with online, and online stories needs sensational headlines to get the clicks.

A lot of these people on forums/social media regurgatatimg the bullshit about us don't read the stories just the headline and form an opinion.
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ha ha I m exactly the same. wife brings the mirror home I read it with my brew when I get home,moan its full of shite rinse and repeat all week
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
I seem to remember, only 2 months ago, the same papers were full of Maureen going to PSG. He was ‘openly courting them’ and ‘would be gone by the end of the season, if not before’ according to some.
It’s only to be expected, in this country at least, when you have the two most successful managers of the last 10 years, not only in the same league, but in the same city (sort of, anyway) they will be trying to write about them. One week they’ll be signing extensions and the next they’ll be leaving. What it reveals is that the vast majority of our journalists actually don’t know anything that is going on so they make it up. A negative story about Maureen is quickly presumed to be well researched fact on BM, a negative about Pep is presumed to be the exact opposite. This is obviously interchangeable on ragcafe, rawk and many others.
The fact is, it’s being discussed and linked on here, and on their site, so he’s getting some mileage out of it and the rags will be clicking it as they’re desperate for it to be true.
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Pretty much how I see things. A Pep story to PSG is not a personal attack on us, an attempt to derailus us but just how newspapers sell papers and get clicks. Exactly the same way they were touting Mourinho to PSG all season.

I think as a fanbase were not neccesarily used to all the attention, criticism and column inches and like all fan bases were highly sensitised to strories about our club which results in the belief there is a bias against us or a disproportionate level of criticism.

Of course that is not to say we have not had some very poor press as well and some more than worthy of the criticism its received.

I personally have always been of the opinion the media is consistently poor, however if papers for example lose traction with society I do worry what will replace them as articles on social media seems far more polarised and less objective.
 
I see Young is now mouthing off about not giving up on the title. How many players is that in the last week? I'm sure they have a lottery to see who is the next player to go public on that statement.
 
jrb said:
I see Young is now mouthing off about not giving up on the title. How many players is that in the last week? I'm sure they have a lottery to see who is the next player to go public on that statement.
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In all fairness though if they are asked what exactly can they say? Imagine if they said yeah it's gone, they'd be slaughtered
 
jamiecav said:
In all fairness though if they are asked what exactly can they say? Imagine if they said yeah it's gone, they'd be slaughtered
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Exactly. The media, for sales, need a race for the Premiership. We have lost our first match and so its finally become a topic.
 
Can’t ignore the geopolitical elements here.

Qatar would love to put one over Abu Dhabi. At least make things awkward.
 
jamiecav said:
In all fairness though if they are asked what exactly can they say? Imagine if they said yeah it's gone, they'd be slaughtered
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To be fair, right through those games against West Brom, Norwich, Wolves, the Rags, Newcastle and QPR Mancini said continuously “we will not win the league” “the league is gone” haha
 
Ye Gods, Eamonn Holmes has been given a show on Talkshite, bet it will be called TalkMoreShite with him on it.
 
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