Media Thread 2017/18

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I don't buy into the argument that there is an organised conspiracy against us, however, there is, definitely, underlying bias evident at times, though I'm sure the reasons for this are manifold. For example, the presenter of the game v Huddersfield, from the outset & throughout the pre-match introduction was flippantly, challenging viewers to' get ready for a goal fest', and pointing out that we were nailed on to 'win handsomely', referring to our previous goal scoring record and talking as though there was absolutely no doubt we'd hammer them easily. As I mentioned, I don't feel it's necessarily an orchestrated campaign, but only a fool could fail to see he was trying to set us up big time. The only reference he made to doubt was finally handing over to the commentary team, when he remarked about the 'unpredictability' of football, (which,(imo) totally gave his game away). It's perversely, satisfying to witness their plaudits through gritted teeth and momentary silences when we equalise or get the winner -- Will love it if we keep this up, LOVE IT.
 
I don't buy into the argument that there is an organised conspiracy against us, however, there is, definitely, underlying bias evident at times, though I'm sure the reasons for this are manifold. For example, the presenter of the game v Huddersfield, from the outset & throughout the pre-match introduction was flippantly, challenging viewers to' get ready for a goal fest', and pointing out that we were nailed on to 'win handsomely', referring to our previous goal scoring record and talking as though there was absolutely no doubt we'd hammer them easily. As I mentioned, I don't feel it's necessarily an orchestrated campaign, but only a fool could fail to see he was trying to set us up big time. The only reference he made to doubt was finally handing over to the commentary team, when he remarked about the 'unpredictability' of football, (which,(imo) totally gave his game away). It's perversely, satisfying to witness their plaudits through gritted teeth and momentary silences when we equalise or get the winner -- Will love it if we keep this up, LOVE IT.
Oh and I do notice how Tyler & Neville continually commentate from the perspective of the team we are playing against, I guess a lot of it is subconscious.
 
You might be able to argue that we've underachieved since the takeover, but I'd dispute the 'hugely' aspect completely. Success was never going to be instantaneous, and given that we first had to attract virtually a whole new squad of players capable of realising our ambitions, the fact that it took us 4 seasons to win the Premier League for the first time was far from unreasonable IMO. Our triumph that season was also a significant catalyst for the League's boom in popularity, with the financial advantage enjoyed by the rags, the Arse and the dippers, courtesy of 15 odd years unbroken Chimps League prize money, greatly reduced as successive new domestic TV deals outstripped CL earnings. In short, the league became far more competitive post-Agueroooooo than it had been pre-Agueroooooo, yet despite that we finished 2nd, 1st and 2nd in the 3 following years.

Had the press applied a modicum of consistency then their criticism might have carried greater justification, but they didn't. In fact from 2008 to 2012 inclusive, they did nothing but parrot the line that "money can't buy success", because to have taken an alternate stance would have effectively denigrated Taggart's achievements at the Swamp, the long standing narrative being that united's success was due to his brilliant stewardship rather than the fact that they had 5 times as much disposable income as anyone else in the league.

I don't go in for the some of the absurd claims of bias on here, that because Alan Shearer sat in a red chair on MotD it constitutes evidence of an agenda against us by the BBC and so forth, but I find the dismissal of all accusations of bias against City equally ridiculous. The media (and particularly the print press) is now driven almost exclusively by the concept of clickbait and associated advertising revenues. If you take a paper like the Mail, whose online version has one of the biggest readerships on the planet, you will note that literally every story has a comments section and a provocative headline. It caters for the largest demographic it can side with on every occasion, and City, as a footballing usurper which has directly and adversely impacted the income streams and trophy winning potential of some of the world's best supported teams, come gift wrapped as the bogeyman in chief. To deny otherwise is to deny the power of advertising. The tone may change over time as we build a global fanbase of our own and further cement our position at the top table, but that time is considerably further away than the memory of a national broadcaster (BT Sport) actively hoping an English team (City) would lose in the Champions League and setting out its stall in that regard to appeal to casual armchair rag viewers in the expectation that there would be more of them watching our games on the telly than there would be City fans.

Good post EB .
 
Just an interesting example of how times have changed. Pointless is on, and one of the questions was to name any English league football team with three syllables or more.

United were obviously the highest, with 68, but there as the second most popular answer (ahead of Liverpool, notably) was ickle City on 54. Not a bad instance of the awareness cut through to the wider public.
 
Just an interesting example of how times have changed. Pointless is on, and one of the questions was to name any English league football team with three syllables or more.

United were obviously the highest, with 68, but there as the second most popular answer (ahead of Liverpool, notably) was ickle City on 54. Not a bad instance of the awareness cut through to the wider public.
But city doesn't have 3 syllables in it

Sorry just read it properly, ignore me
 
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I don’t buy into this agenda etc but needed to post this after hearing what I did on talksport this afternoon, They were discussing Henry’s comments that David Silva is the best creative midfielder in premier league history yet Dean Saunders proceeded to go on and on and on about how he can name 20 more creative midfielders better than silva and repeated the names Scholes, giggs, lampard, gerrard - all of which do have some better qualities than Spanish Dave but creativity is not one. Not that I care about that deluded welsh tw@t Saunders view but when he mentioned Mezut Ozil my head went
 
Tbf, they probably wanted us to buy overnight success, not the gradual dominance emerging from the graft we put in --- they move the goal posts to suit their argument -- bunch of desperate losers the lot of 'em.

I'm sure you realise my post was phrased to ironically agree with the post I quoted which frankly made me feel angry.

Everything has been gradual and whilst we had a few hiccups and managers we are now seeing results. In fairness Pep is the one who sees defects and advises caution. He continues to want improvement rather than sit on his record.
 
I don’t buy into this agenda etc but needed to post this after hearing what I did on talksport this afternoon, They were discussing Henry’s comments that David Silva is the best creative midfielder in premier league history yet Dean Saunders proceeded to go on and on and on about how he can name 20 more creative midfielders better than silva and repeated the names Scholes, giggs, lampard, gerrard - all of which do have some better qualities than Spanish Dave but creativity is not one. Not that I care about that deluded welsh tw@t Saunders view but when he mentioned Mezut Ozil my head went

You should have phoned up and said that is why you have failed in every managers job you have had dean.
 
Raggy game tonight everyone saying offside, I knew it was onside & took 30 seconds to google to confirm.
 
Someone posted a picture of their Twitter timeline yesterday, and it neatly sums up how almost everyone seemingly thinks commentators are against them:

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My brother and I met him before Liverpool game. Seemed decent guy. Not sure having Neville next to him helps....
 
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