Media Thread 2017/18

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The season review article by all the football journalists in the Mail is something to behold.

Lot's of them say us being beat by Liverpool and the rags was their moment of the season and their wish for next season is for us not being so dominant.
 
argyle said:
The season review article by all the football journalists in the Mail is something to behold.

Lot's of them say us being beat by Liverpool and the rags was their moment of the season and their wish for next season is for us not being so dominant.
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They are in for a shock because city will win the league again by 10 points or more
 
I had my say on the press yesterday.

Sky? I honestly think they have the hump with us over giving Amazon access we’d never give sky. Sky probably think we’ve f**ked them with it tbh. And I love that.
 
franksinatra said:
It is pretty obvious that the term ‘documented all season’ is not referring to the 100 point but our achievements and the breaking of other records over the season.

I have not read a report on the game which has not mentioned us achieving 100 points. Type in Manchester City 100 points and find a paper what has not mentioned it. Just ridiculous to suggest its hardly been documented.
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It has been documented, but you’re ‘straw manning’ again, Frank. The issue is not that the 100 point barrier being broken wasn’t mentioned, but that in almost every paper that reference was limited to little more than an inclusion in a perfunctory match report. Breaking the 100 point barrier, like going the season unbeaten, is a colossal, once in a lifetime, event, which merited top spot in every paper and sports news broadcast. Had the rags done it, there’d have been centre page pull outs, and whole programmes devoted to it. As I said in an earlier post though, I got stuck in that fucking jam getting out of Southampton after the game on Sunday, and I flicked non-stop between the rival phone-ins on Five Live and Talkshite and it was like it had been airbrushed from history. Barely mentioned in terms of games the presenters were exhorting punters to phone in about, and the only City fan I heard in well over 3 hours of combined broadcasting between the two stations, just wanted to wish Taggart a speedy recovery.
I then stuck BBC Breakfast News on the following day, thinking we’d be eulogised for our achievement, only to find most of the sports report dedicated to Mo Salah’s daughter kicking a ball about at Klanfield. The coverage and recognition for what we achieved on Sunday was bullshit
 
Thaksinssoldier said:
I had my say on the press yesterday.

Sky? I honestly think they have the hump with us over giving Amazon access we’d never give sky. Sky probably think we’ve f**ked them with it tbh. And I love that.
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This definitely. Sky have the hump with us. Can you imagine the excitement of the Amazon production crew when Jesus scored at the death. Hollywood scripted ending for real.
 
What I love is for years to come every team will be compared to ours in terms of records met or not met! It's going to stick in all their throats & I absolutely love it.
 
franksinatra said:
See my post above. Do you actually think the BBC gives parity to all topics?

Its governed by popularity like all other websites.

If you genuinely believe everything should be equal do you believe this for everyone or just City in comparison to United/Liverpool etc?

Should crown green bowling get as much coverage as football? Luton town as much coverage as City? Ashton under Lyne as much coverage as London?

Its an absurd notion. The BBC bases its overall output, like all others on the interest in the subject and it may hurt but the likes of Pool/Utd may still be ahead of us.
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Again you’re ‘straw manning’. The BBC is supposed to be an objective broadcaster, reporting even handedly, not on a club by club perceived popularity basis. That’s what we should expect from ‘independent’ media sources. If Luton were the best team in the land, smashing every record known to man, I would expect them to have the largest amount of individual coverage of any club. If crowds of 70000 turned up at the Blackhorse memorial gardens to watch Sidmouth play Eastbourne at Crown Green Bowling, or it was watched by a global TV audience of half a billion, then yes, I would expect it to be given parity of coverage with football, but the fact is it ain’t. If it were though, and Sidmouth were the National Champions, then I’d expect more coverage for them than anyone else. The reality is that the BBC Sports dept at Media City recruited half its staff direct from the Swamp across the road, and that is reflected in the bollocks we get on its website, plugs for Tag Heuer and other associated rag business partners included
 
Exeter Blue I am here said:
It has been documented, but you’re ‘straw manning’ again, Frank. The issue is not that the 100 point barrier being broken wasn’t mentioned, but that in almost every paper that reference was limited to little more than an inclusion in a perfunctory match report. Breaking the 100 point barrier, like going the season unbeaten, is a colossal, once in a lifetime, event, which merited top spot in every paper and sports news broadcast. Had the rags done it, there’d have been centre page pull outs, and whole programmes devoted to it. As I said in an earlier post though, I got stuck in that fucking jam getting out of Southampton after the game on Sunday, and I flicked non-stop between the rival phone-ins on Five Live and Talkshite and it was like it had been airbrushed from history. Barely mentioned in terms of games the presenters were exhorting punters to phone in about, and the only City fan I heard in well over 3 hours of combined broadcasting between the two stations, just wanted to wish Taggart a speedy recovery.
I then stuck BBC Breakfast News on the following day, thinking we’d be eulogised for our achievement, only to find most of the sports report dedicated to Mo Salah’s daughter kicking a ball about at Klanfield. The coverage and recognition for what we achieved on Sunday was bullshit
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Yup, it's taken an 130 years for a team to achieve what City did - a monumental achievement that should have had far better coverage.

I bought two papers yesterday (on average, I normally buy one every other weekend) and wished I had not bothered. You'd think from the front page of the Times' football section that Salah was the second coming, rather than a guy a who scored a couple more than Harry Kane.
 
franksinatra said:
I would be interested to know how the CIES measures players performance accurately, particularly a player like Otamendi who has relatively little to do compared to other centre halfs and so in ‘traditional’ measures like tackles/blocks would undoubtedly compare unfavourably.
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Otamendi clocked up the 2nd highest number of passes in the entire Premier League in 2017-18 (3,074) just behind Xhaka. Fernandinho was 3rd, KDB 5th, Silva 8th and Walker 9th.
 
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franksinatra said:
No they dont and neither should they.

Do all football clubs get equal coverage to City? Everton, Leeds, Villa, Cardiff etc etc. It only seems an issue when were not getting the same extent of coverage as others but no one is screaming bias when it works the other way.

Also if the BBC was to be completely equal should lacrosse, ten pin bowls , synchronised swimming receive the same coverage as football? Rural Norfolk receive as much coverage as London/Manchester?

Of course not. The BBC like all websites is governed by popularity that is why football typically dominates the sports coverage not crown green bowling. Certainly not unique to City.
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When did these attain 100 points, in the Premier League.
 
GaudinoMotors said:
Of course there's a proramme on us. There's a programme about a programme on Sky. The point is it's on there at an alloted time so only those interested will watch, which is fair enough - choice and all that - But yesterday, after the last matches, when everyone is tuned in and City had just completed an incredible season with a never before achieved points total - barely a word.
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Well said - nail on head about timing and exposure. You have identified the crux of the matter
Giving us a slot at 10.15pm on a tuesday night after the season is over is 'easy'
 
franksinatra said:
No they dont and neither should they.

Do all football clubs get equal coverage to City? Everton, Leeds, Villa, Cardiff etc etc. It only seems an issue when were not getting the same extent of coverage as others but no one is screaming bias when it works the other way.

Also if the BBC was to be completely equal should lacrosse, ten pin bowls , synchronised swimming receive the same coverage as football? Rural Norfolk receive as much coverage as London/Manchester?

Of course not. The BBC like all websites is governed by popularity that is why football typically dominates the sports coverage not crown green bowling. Certainly not unique to City.
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Top notch deflection
 
malg said:
What the actual fuck.
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That’s what I thought, as well. I know you can make numbers portray nearly anything (my bloody job is creating as close to objective frameworks for statistical modeling as possible because of that potential) but the latest attempts to do so, seemingly to diminish our achievements and/or current status, are bewildering.
 
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