Media Thread 2020/21

[wolviedinho]

I,m not going to link it, but there's an article on newsnow titled

Guardiola’s ‘crocodile tears’ slammed after report shines light on Aguero’s Man City exit – pundit​

Who is said pundit ?

I was intrigued as to who exactly so had a look


FRANK MCANVENNI WTF!

Who is he??????

He might aswell change his name to ‘ Frank knows fuck all Mcanvenni’ prob another Arab hater or istory sycophant.

He is Scottish...say no more. Fucktard ;)

 

[Keeper!]

Didn’t someone on here post that we had already made close to £1.5bn in prize money since the takeover for trophies, Premier League positions and a decade of Champions League qualification and almost always qualifying for the knockout stages? And thats before factoring in any sponsorship or other commercial income?
Yet this is routinely ignored

Nearly as much as the scousers got for Coutinhio!

 

[KS55]

Conn has a problem. He's a few years younger than me but I suspect our experiences growing up, him in Prestwich and me in Crumpsall, were similar.

He may have gone shopping on Cheetham Hill with his grandma, probably on the bus. If she wanted chicken or a piece brisket, she went to the butcher. If she wanted bread, she went to the baker. Veg, to the greengrocer. Vimto, to the grocer. Milk or cheese, to the dairy shop. Etc. When she'd got everything they would have gone home, she'd have made a cup of tea with tea leaves in a pot, poured through a strainer and, at 5pm, the first programmes would start on the TV they rented. If it was cold, she might have put sme coal on the fire or put the gas heater on. There were 4 or 5 cinemas in walking distance of the house I grew up in, and she might have taken him to one of those. Polio and diptheria were real fears and catching measles, mumps and rubella was expected

If it was a Saturday, they might have watched the football results, of clubs owned by local small businessmen made good, like butcher Bob Lord, our own TV supplier, or a purveyor of bribes and rotten meat to councils. For these people, it elevated them into loal dignitaries, like modern days squires of the manor. One or two, like Liverpool and Arsenal, might have been owned by seriously rich families, who saw it as their civic duty to provide entertainment for the masses who worked for them and provided their riches.

Gradually the world changed. Supermarkets, where you could get everything under one roof, and there was at least one in every town. Central heating, mass car ownership, multiplex cinemas, where you had a choice of ten or more films. Not needing to wait for the results of matches, because you could watch or stream them live.

Football moved out of the realm of the local boy made good and became big business. Conn probably shops in supermarkets or online, owns more than one TV and car and has central heating. His kids will have been vaccinated and don't fear the childhood diseases he and I did.

He accepts this as part of modern life but he's never accepted football changing.

Lovely description of post war Britain. I remember it well.
Immunisation against those terrible childhood diseases was a massive game changer. For example, in 1954 (?) all the swimming pools in Manchester were shut in the face of a polio epidemic. Everybody of my age went to school with kids in calipers. Then we lined up for the polio vaccine, 3 shots on a sugar lump.
My dear departed stepmum would recognize the routine of Cheetham Hill, where she was brought up as an orthodox Jew.(b 1929).
You are right, Conn sounds like a Luddite railing against "these new fangled machines that are going to put us all out of work". Of course, the exact opposite happened and the Luddites found themselves working in boom times. Same with football; it is inherently a loss maker and desperately needs the capital injection new owners provide.
Lovely and perceptive post, PB.

 

[BringBackSwales]

Gushing (well the few words I read) article about OGS (our greatest stooge) on bbc football, I didn’t even have to look who’d “written” it, in crayon presumably

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

I,m not going to link it, but there's an article on newsnow titled

Guardiola’s ‘crocodile tears’ slammed after report shines light on Aguero’s Man City exit – pundit​

Who is said pundit ?

I was intrigued as to who exactly so had a look


FRANK MCANVENNI WTF!

F*cking hasbeen cockwombly tring to stay relevant.

 

[Newman Noggs]

I,m not going to link it, but there's an article on newsnow titled

Guardiola’s ‘crocodile tears’ slammed after report shines light on Aguero’s Man City exit – pundit​

Who is said pundit ?

I was intrigued as to who exactly so had a look


FRANK MCANVENNI WTF!

This Frank McAvennie ?

Frank McAvennie: How cocaine wrecked my life

Soccer star Frank McAvennie scored hatfuls of goals - but now he's remembered for scoring drugs. In this exclusive interview he tells Denis Campbell about the highs and lows - and says that he has kicked the habit for good

www.theguardian.com

 

[KS55]

Aren’t UAE and Israel best mates now? But Conn does seem to have a problem keeping up.

Not best mates, but they have reached an accomodation, Iran featuring heavily in their calculations. Even Qatar is part of the deal. That is political, but Conn's stance is personal and much harder to shift.

 

[KS55]

The UAE and especially Abu Dhabi are very pro British, reflected in trade and politics. Sheikh Mansour chose to invest not only in Manchester City FC but also in the regeneration of a run down, blighted part of the city. The decision was not born out of altruism but there is no evidence of equivalent investments by others let alone by owners of other football clubs including the ones who purport to be the biggest and richest in the world.

Yet we have a cabal conducting a sustained campaign against City and owners, effectively against the interests of the UK, when there are many more obvious targets throughout the world. The western world has its own issues and Amnesty has its failings and is no moral paragon. This cabal is self-reinforcing with their selective criticism and attacks a reflection of their paymasters.

Unsurprisingly, they like to give it but cant take it.

Little known fact: Cameron as PM had a special advisor on ME affairs: the brother of Mansour, but I've forgotten which one.

 

[KS55]

I'm stomping (the song and video made me cringe though) !!!!

Bring back standing and you preserve part of the old culture. See Germany.

 

[waspish]

Great post.

A great deal of fans of these Redshirt clubs are only fans because they attach themselves to the glory aspect of the club they’ve chosen to support. Especially the out of towners.

This is usually from being insecure from the outset as individuals.

They’re too insecure to support Lincoln, Plymouth, or Shamrock Rovers, so they attach themselves to United and Liverpool. They live it up in some sort of weird reflected glory… but as soon as that glory wanes or disappears as their clubs aren’t top dogs anymore, their insecurities come to the fore. They can’t handle that a club they once made banners about their trophy drought and had more songs mocking them than they had about themselves, have started to win trophies like they once did but at the same time smashing all-time English football records in the process.

This is where all this fear and belittling comes in, they’re just insecure little boys who can’t deal with their reflected glory being taken away from them. But in a social media age, it’s not just the out of towners with this attitude, it’s the entire fanbases plus their hangers on from the media. It becomes a culture of insecurity and fear across the lot of them!

thing with these “fans” who support there local club like a York a Gillingham and there second club is a Liverpool or the scum is when they doing shit they go dormant and a one club local fan but when there second club start winning they start again with support over social media! A great example it this season and Liverpool doing shite don’t see nowt of them on social media then once they get top three they all out on there being dicks..

 

[KS55]

Conn at it in The Guardian and he's got a full house and then some in the City Bingo card.

My biggest issue is that he says our owners have pumped £2.5B into the club which is not true. They have spent that amount on The City Football Group by acquiring other teams and building the infrastructure of said teams.

City have obviously been the main benefactor of the money but no one truly knows how much they have spent solely on us.

But tell a lie long enough and people will accept it as truth

I think the true figure for Mansour is £500m for the team building losses and £250m for CFA. Money for purchase of the club, of course, went to the then shareholders.

 

[CC1]

Because these articles, quotes and arguments to try and belittle the achievements of our club, owner and Pep are born from one thing....

FEAR

The history clubs and their ex-players, and the rest of the jealous mob are fearful of what has been happening before there eyes since Sheihk Mansour arrived on these shores.

Take one massive example of that playing out on BT sports when Joe Cole said Kane should go to City - Ferdinand couldn't hold that thought in his head, the fear rose and he went straight into school boy bully mode spouting 'united are the biggest club' - Ferdinand had to re-assure himself that Kane to the rags was a no-brainer based on some old history shite that they are a bigger club - and then you had the giddy BT anchor laughing like the sad kid who hides behind the school bully hanging onto his every whim

The old pisscan said 'never in my lifetime', the takeover was seen as a joke at the time and one that wouldn't last.

We have overtaken them all in every part that MATTERS - Infrastructure, Scouting, Academy, Players, Managers, breaking domestic records, and now collecting trophies each season = FEAR

The only thing we lack is this stupid statement of being seen as a "bigger club" - based on what, overseas fans, well that doesn't bother me one iota - they can keep it. Is it based on trophies? - well we are addressing that currently are we not, But then they realise that if we start by lifting a 1st CL trophy this Saturday then they will be worried about us winning more

The truth is (and I will use myself as an example age wise, I am 42yrs old) that the red top history clubs (who believe they have this divine right to be lauded as the pinnacle of the English game) are realising that what has been built has the POTENTIAL to go on and become the most successful English club side ever = FEAR

FEAR is written all over this. It is between the lines in everything they say, every article that is written, every snide little comment that is made live on TV or radio.

Very well said & so true

 

[Manchester_lalala]

He isn't a City fan, he's a snide underhand disgrace to journalism.

I used to get myself worked up by the likes of Conn, Delaney and the other nutters. But that was during the FFP case and they were sticking the knife in while the could. Now that’s over and were winning trophy after trophy, all I do is laugh. Writing about City having money 13 years after the takeover is funny as fuck.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

thing with these “fans” who support there local club like a York a Gillingham and there second club is a Liverpool or the scum is when they doing shit they go dormant and a one club local fan but when there second club start winning they start again with support over social media! A great example it this season and Liverpool doing shite don’t see nowt of them on social media then once they get top three they all out on there being dicks..

You play down the support and passion these fans have for their clubs, doing them a disservice.

We’ve all met loads of football fans from all over the country over the years and, in my experience anyway, a vast majority of them support their clubs in exactly the same manner that we support City. Doesn’t matter if it’s City, Derby, Shrewsbury or Crawley, they are as passionate about their club as any fans in the country. The idea of having a second club isn’t even entertained by most.

The football is shit and these clubs will be struggling financially but fans of Yeovil and Northampton and all the others still religiously go to every game. But they all have a situation where they leave their stadium and head back to the pub after the game only to see the place packed with Redshirts for the 17:30 KO. It must drive them to despair! Lads they went to school with and have no connection to Manchester or Liverpool all their in their replica tops, while their local club who the whole town should be proud of and get behind have just had a game in a half full stadium and they might not have a club next season as they’re up the wall financially.

 

[Airbags Optional]

He isn't a City fan, he's a snide underhand disgrace to journalism.

What a cockwomble

 

[Wardley Blue]

I used to get myself worked up by the likes of Conn, Delaney and the other nutters. But that was during the FFP case and they were sticking the knife in while the could. Now that’s over and were winning trophy after trophy, all I do is laugh. Writing about City having money 13 years after the takeover is funny as fuck.

They only do it because our success is really hurting them. Just relax and enjoy their pain.

 

[richardtheref]

This Frank McAvennie ?

Frank McAvennie: How cocaine wrecked my life

Soccer star Frank McAvennie scored hatfuls of goals - but now he's remembered for scoring drugs. In this exclusive interview he tells Denis Campbell about the highs and lows - and says that he has kicked the habit for good

www.theguardian.com

The same guy who ended up playing in the Gateshead Sunday league & used to telleveryone how much he hated West Ham

 

[pirate]

I think the true figure for Mansour is £500m for the team building losses and £250m for CFA. Money for purchase of the club, of course, went to the then shareholders.

And he has made £765m back selling a 13% stake to the chinese investors and a 10% stake to silverlake

which means he is only out of pocket for approximately £150m he spent when he purchased the club.

Gotta think that 77% of the city football group is worth considerably more than £150m.

The man has made a killing, while at the same time making us the most successful premier league team over the past 10 years.
I was about to post that the man sure knows how to run a football club, but I am not sure he does, but he knows who does and employs them to do it. Khaldoon, Txiki and Ferran are those people.

As other posters have said the way we are organised is making red history clubs fearful for the future and rightly so.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Great post.

A great deal of fans of these Redshirt clubs are only fans because they attach themselves to the glory aspect of the club they’ve chosen to support. Especially the out of towners.

This is usually from being insecure from the outset as individuals.

They’re too insecure to support Lincoln, Plymouth, or Shamrock Rovers, so they attach themselves to United and Liverpool. They live it up in some sort of weird reflected glory… but as soon as that glory wanes or disappears as their clubs aren’t top dogs anymore, their insecurities come to the fore. They can’t handle that a club they once made banners about their trophy drought and had more songs mocking them than they had about themselves, have started to win trophies like they once did but at the same time smashing all-time English football records in the process.

This is where all this fear and belittling comes in, they’re just insecure little boys who can’t deal with their reflected glory being taken away from them. But in a social media age, it’s not just the out of towners with this attitude, it’s the entire fanbases plus their hangers on from the media. It becomes a culture of insecurity and fear across the lot of them!

Can't argue with any of that.

I would add that they assuage their angst by claiming that their successes are/were "authentic" where as ours are not.

Hence this bizarre bollocks about how our trophies come with an *

Sad fuckers.

 

[Marvin]

They only do it because our success is really hurting them. Just relax and enjoy their pain.

And when the winning cycle is over, or they find the next scandal / piece of dirt. They will never stop looking.
There is no coexistence.