Media Thread 2020/21

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“Pep do you accept your achievements mean nothing because you have such a massive advantage over everybody else in the transfer market” .
“More than you believe, believe me when I say”
“Do you guys know that when Man U spent 30 million on Juan Sebastian Veron back in the day he cost more than the entire City team”
“Where was your money is bad morals then??
“ Maybe you guys are just bitter old agenda driven hacks who denigrate mine and my club’s achievements to pander to a nation of haters and morons” ie armchair fans of , how you say , rags and dippers.
 
So now we have to win the quadruple to be considered a success. Anything else would be a disappointment apparently. No other team gets this shit. If we win a treble we have underachieved. What a prick Simon Jordan is.


The thing about that is that up to about 4:50 in the video there wasn't a thing Simon Jordan said that I disagreed with. City spend money on new players. So does everyone else. City wouldn't be where we are without the money. Neither would anyone else. Having money by itself is not enough, you need the best manager too. Don't disagree with any of that.

I also agreed with him when he said initially that we should set out to win all four trophies, which is what we do every season. We don't start out intending to get beaten in any competition at any stage. He said we should win the league this season (and we should) and we should win the league cup (and we should) and we should win the FA Cup (and we should) and we have a great chance of winning the Champions League, which we do. It was only later, at the end of the video, that he contradicted himself by saying a City fan should be disappointed if we don't win all four. That wasn't what he said initially. A red card and a dodgy penalty in the FA cup ends that dream, because that's football. We are good enough to win all four but sometimes - most of the time - football doesn't work out that way.

And he said that because Jim White twisted his words. He's a dick for allowing that to happen, but everything he said before that point was absolutely right.
 
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Pep's correct in what he said, "we've spent a lot of money and bought some great players"

Now for all the media twats who frequent bluemoon, why don't you ask yourself the following questions..

1. Have City complied with FFP and spent within their means ?

2. Do the dippers and rags generate more income than City ?

3. Do other so called 'big' PL clubs generate similar incomes to City, teams such a spuds, chelski and the tarquins ?

4. In fact, the dippers, rags, tarquins and chelski all have players in their squads in excess of £70M whereas nobody in our squad comes anywhere near this number..

The rags spent even more than this on the dabber, slabhead, lukaki, wasted millions on the piano player, Tia Maria and memphis meat pie to name but a few..

We are a fkin well run, well managed, superbly owned club that plays brilliant football that any true football fan would appreciate their team churning out week in, week out..

So the media can get fucked and suck it up..

Write the fkin real headlines here you fkin bunch of cowards and ask the real questions like, 'why haven't any of the other so called big teams in the PL invested as well as City.'. ?


Cnuts..!

Moaning, whinging twats..
Indeed, indeed, indeed..

'PrestwichBlue' and others have mentioned elsewhere on here that City's rise up the rankings of income amongst Europe's footballing elite was INEVITABLE once the early investment by The Sheik yielded success on the field. In addition, they've catalogued how that success INEVITABLY would generate yet more success and therefore attract yet further investment from a whole host of corporate sponsors etc.

Taking that investment and income generated under the UEFA/Premier League rules that have applied at any given time in the past decade, City has developed the playing squad to the level it now currently is operating at. As you say to the media lurkers and supporters of other teams who visit here, City has SPENT the majority of the money it has earned on its core value product.. the squad.

And (1) not only that, City has spent the money wisely for the most part, recruiting the right players with the right technical skills and the right personal attitudes to fit in with the ethos that Guardiola has created since picking up the project from where Mancini and Pellegrini had taken it to.

And (2) as you ask, why aren't the scribblers in the media asking about their favoured English clubs' spending, both in terms of the amount they're spending given what they've been earning and also the value-for-money achieved over the past decade or so since City emerged as a threat to their cosy cartel?

They might take a stroll on Google down through the history provided by Deloitte's 'Football Money League' which ranks the top 30 or so clubs' earnings since the turn of the 21st century:

In 2007..
City was turning over c.89M euros per year. Compare that to Spurs (107M), Liverpool (176M), Arsenal (177M), Chelsea (221M) and United (242M). Eventually, around 2013-14, Deloitte notes that City, Borussia Dortmund, Napoli and PSG had begun their 'meteoric rises' up the table of earnings.

The latest table (2020)..
shows City's annual earnings at 610M euros (6th highest in Europe), overtaking Arsenal (446M), Chelsea (513M), Tottenham (521M), Liverpool (605M) while United are still ahead with an annual income of 711M euros.

Clearly it doesn't require quoting every year's turnover to show each club has earned loads of moolah, especially in comparison with the rest of the Premier league teams and those they're competing with in Europe..

'PB' and others have noted that The Sheik hasn't put his hand in his pocket for more than a decade now, apart from the cash input that helped finance the Laporte transfer, which was subsequently turned into equity. UEFA/Premier League standards and requirements for financial prudence and probity have been more than met by City for many years now (thank you for confirming this, CAS!). What comes into the club is, by any definition, generated by the club as a business entity which has been standing on its own two feet for almost a decade now, in line with the original goals set by The Sheik at the time of the takeover.

All of those English clubs favoured by our venal sports media may have been superseded by City in the money stakes but they have been earning a great deal more than City has for a lot longer according to Deloitte. And they still continue to earn a fair wedge each year, having taken advantage of the Premiership's ascendancy over the rest of European football as an income generator.

So, the questions beg to be asked of these favoured clubs.. 'Where has all that income gone?' and 'Why have you spent money so badly in supporting your core product, i.e. the squad?'

Given the business model that applies to our friends in Red at either end of the East Lancs, as well as with those cheeky Cockney chappies in N London, I think we can guess as to exactly where most of the ackers have gone to. As 'Deep Throat' might have told Woodward and Bernstein at the time of the Watergate scandal, 'Follow the money.. to Bermuda and Wall Street..'

But I don't expect the f*ckwits in the football media or the tribal clowns on social media have either the nous or the nerve to ask such questions of their favoured media darlings/their own clubs..
 
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The thing about that is that up to about 4:50 in the video there wasn't a thing Simon Jordan said that I disagreed with. City spend money on new players. So does everyone else. City wouldn't be where we are without the money. Neither would anyone else. Having money by itself is not enough, you need the best manager too. Don't disagree with any of that.

I also agreed with him when he said initially that we should set out to win all four trophies, which is what we do every season. We don't start out intending to get beaten in any competition at any stage. He said we should win the league this season (and we should) and we should win the league cup (and we should) and we should win the FA Cup (and we should) and we have a great chance of winning the Champions League, which we do. It was only later, at the end of the video, that he contradicted himself by saying a City fan should be disappointed if we don't win all four. That wasn't what he said initially. A red card and a dodgy penalty in the FA cup ends that dream, because that's football. We are good enough to win all four but sometimes - most of the time - football doesn't work out that way.

And he said that because Jim White twisted his words. He's a dick for allowing that to happen, but everything he said before that point was absolutely right.
The final paragraph could be avoided with a single statement...... 'Fuck off Shouty, you're a know nowt twat". Sorted.
 
Money = Jealousy. We have driven the media mental. Poor souls I almost feel sorry for their pain and anguish but I am too busy watching a wonderful team dominate to give 2 fucks about the ‘high moral’ standards of the written press.

Oh maybe we should offer free counselling to those in the media that can’t cope with change or those that can’t let the past go?

Nah on second thoughts...the gutter Scum should be treated with contempt at every opportunity.
 
Thinking about it more, I even agree with Jordan saying we should be disappointed if we don't win the quadruple.

The closest we've ever come was when we did the treble. I don't know about anyone else, but I was gutted when we went out of the Champions League that season. I'll be disappointed if we don't beat Spurs in the League Cup in April, I'll be disappointed if we get knocked out of the FA Cup or CL, and I'll be beyond gutted if we don't win the league. In fact, every single City fan I know without exception would be disappointed too.

That is not to say that in some way "only" winning two or three trophies this season would be some sort of disappointment, or that City have let themselves down. In a one off game, that can happen. It's not a reflection on your season overall, it's a bad day with unfortunate consequences.

It is truly bonkers to suggest that anything other than complete victory in every competition is somehow failure. By that standard, every single English team ever is a failure.
 
Thinking about it more, I even agree with Jordan saying we should be disappointed if we don't win the quadruple.

The closest we've ever come was when we did the treble. I don't know about anyone else, but I was gutted when we went out of the Champions League that season. I'll be disappointed if we don't beat Spurs in the League Cup in April, I'll be disappointed if we get knocked out of the FA Cup or CL, and I'll be beyond gutted if we don't win the league. In fact, every single City fan I know without exception would be disappointed too.

That is not to say that in some way "only" winning two or three trophies this season would be some sort of disappointment, or that City have let themselves down. In a one off game, that can happen. It's not a reflection on your season overall, it's a bad day with unfortunate consequences.

It is truly bonkers to suggest that anything other than complete victory in every competition is somehow failure. By that standard, every single English team ever is a failure.
The Quad is another unrealistic goal that we will not be able to achieve. The league will be enough for me and anything else is a bonus. The constant narrative change each season is getting more and more pathetic.

1. Never win with mercenaries- check
2. Must do back to back titles- Check
3. Must win domestic treble- Check
4. Must win the Quad - erm twats.

City as a club are doing amazing things on and off the pitch. Why dont we look back through time and see if Liverpool or united had to win the quad due to their high spend on players?Quick search says fuck no...world club championship does not count scousers:)
 
Thinking about it more, I even agree with Jordan saying we should be disappointed if we don't win the quadruple.

The closest we've ever come was when we did the treble. I don't know about anyone else, but I was gutted when we went out of the Champions League that season. I'll be disappointed if we don't beat Spurs in the League Cup in April, I'll be disappointed if we get knocked out of the FA Cup or CL, and I'll be beyond gutted if we don't win the league. In fact, every single City fan I know without exception would be disappointed too.

That is not to say that in some way "only" winning two or three trophies this season would be some sort of disappointment, or that City have let themselves down. In a one off game, that can happen. It's not a reflection on your season overall, it's a bad day with unfortunate consequences.

It is truly bonkers to suggest that anything other than complete victory in every competition is somehow failure. By that standard, every single English team ever is a failure.
Agreed. But to win four trophies will require a large slice of luck somewhere along the way. Having a brilliant team is a great start but you can be derailed by a poor decision or a missed penalty (we are good at these) or a sending off, or a key injury, etc etc. It's never boring watching City is it? (expect for the Pearce years of course)
 
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