Media Thread 2020/21

[willrowe99]

@Ric might be worth moving this somewhere it will be spotted.

Thanks! Where would you recommend posting this to?

 

[Eds]

Giggs signed for the rags because while City were dealing with his dad, the rags bought and had a full kitchen fitted for his mum and that swung the signing of Ryan Wilson of Swinton. All parts United s rich istree

I heard the same story as well many years ago. Think there may also have been a holiday and car involved as well.

 

[the-ecstacy-of-eight]

Replace Rashford with Vinny in your last two sentences and you'll get a shit load of likes.

The issue, I believe, isn't what either Vinnie or Rushforward or countless numbers of other players are doing/have done for very worthwhile causes, but the manner in which it is reported on. It's not Rushforward who people have a problem with, it's the media.

Most people who involve themselves in working for charities/worthwhile causes do so in order to help said charity/cause and seek no attention or praise for their involvement, and that is probably the case for both of the people named above, but the media have gone all in on this and one has to question, why?

It could be argued that the spotlight has been shone on Rushforward's "crusade" because the cause is a national concern rather than a local one and that more attention could bring about larger and wider changes, but many people know how the media work are are, quite rightly IMO, quite sceptical of their motives.

 

[stonerblue]

Thanks! Where would you recommend posting this to?

Hmmm?
look out..

 

[CityFan1970]

Yesterday I dared the BBC to print the Rags hugging and they have:

 

[LongsightM13]

I challenged Crafton on Twitter regarding the dad being employed as a driver. His reply was its different cos our boys dad didn't have to do any work, no evidence to back that up, just straight well its different

Typical united fan. Pretty obvious Howson sold him the info judging by his gloating on Twitter

 

[the-ecstacy-of-eight]

Depends what that ‘99’ is all about....

I know what you mean, but if he's/she's a student and he's/she's in his/her final year, it could be as simple as their year of birth, which makes me feel proper old.

It could be more sinister though.

(just seen previous reply - oh well, only about an hour too late :))

 

[Blueboy73]

Probably not the correct thread for this....

Whilst I agree with a a some of your sentiments, if you’ve worked in schools & welfare to work sector, then surely you’ll be aware that your last sentence is grossly unfair to a good percentage of those kids, who are trapped in a cycle.

If not, check out the percentages of those out of work or those in prison who have special needs. The stats are frightening. It really isn’t as simple as following their parents example, the ‘system’ is failing a lot of kids.

To give you an example, if you have a special educational need, you’re 7 times more likely to get excluded than a non SEN pupil, which is completely unfair. As you’ll definitely be aware, if you get expelled, have poor education/grades, it can be difficult to get on the social/job ladder, so you get stuck in a cycle.

If you can be arsed looking at the percentages, this isn’t just a UK problem, it’s a global phenomenon & a cycle which needs breaking as we are currently failing SEN kids, which then perpetuates the the cycle & therefore the problem.

No idea what the solution is & as you say, there are definitely plenty of work shy people in the UK who don’t help themselves, but your last sentence bothered me a little, hence the response.

Like you said, probably not the correct thread for this but I feel compelled to reply.
If you look back at previous posts prior to the one you responded to, you may get the full picture as, whether intentional or not, your post reminds me of Uefa's case against City that went to CAS where it appears you have taken out of context snippets from much bigger pieces of information and looked at this in isolation.

I am fully aware of the stats around SEN kids however there is no direct link between being eligible for FSM and having a statement so I'm no quite sure what you're getting at there?
In fact the vast majority of SEN kids aren't eligible for FSM so you're basically comparing apples with oranges and the origins of the posts prior to this discussion are based on the BBC's reporting of Rashford and whether it will help to tackle to route cause of issues in society around child poverty and nothing to do with SEN.

Nothing to do with SEN kids and like yourself, having worked in schools and for a Local Authority within Education, I don't think that enough resources are invested in improving the lives and chances of these kids and professionals who specialise in that field who I know personally have been saying and pushing for more resources for years.
My school has pretty good SEN provision and has a great reputation for this in the area however it is chronically under resourced.

In addition to going back further and reading previous posts, If you had read my last sentence properly, I said MANY will follow their parents example (not all) and from personal experience teachers in my school are pissing in the wind trying to provide an education for a lot of kids (not SEN) as their parents are setting such a poor example at home. This was around kids whose parents are fit and healthy and capable of making a meaningful contribution to society but choosing not to and you would have been aware of this if you had read all of the previous posts.

Like yourself, the poster I was responding to had, whether intentional or not, not read all of the previous posts and had taken one post in isolation and responded to that rather than looking at and being fully aware of the whole discussion or as I like to call it the Uefa v City approach.

The discussion started yesterday and was around the BBC and the amount of time and pubic money they are spending publicising Marcus Rashford with camera crews etc. at the licence fee payers expense.
Nothing wrong with mentioning his activities in the news as was the case with ITV.

One of my points is that this excessive publicity from the BBC (especially when compared with other news outlets), will not tackle the route cause / causes.

I don't want to put words in your mouth but perhaps you agree that paying a BBC report and a camera crew to follow Marcus Rashford around isn't going to provide a solution as it's not as easy or as straightforward as that?
This is what I have been saying all along.

 

[Onholiday(somemightsay)]

I know what you mean, but if he's/she's a student and he's/she's in his/her final year, it could be as simple as their year of birth, which makes me feel proper old.

It could be more sinister though.

(just seen previous reply - oh well, only about an hour too late :))

If their follow up post contains the term 'massive' I think we'll know............. ;-)

 

[ArdwickAlbert]

I subscribed to The Athletic when it first started. Was looking forward to serious and considered football journalism. Binned it after the appalling reporting of CAS. Was enticed back for £1 per month. I now consider that too much and have unsubscribed letting them know it's due to their continual trolling and articles designed to illicit likes and narrow minded (and borderline racist) comments from uniformed pond life. It's a shame, as I really wanted decent journalism to read.

Soooo, and apologies for responding to my own post.
I got a notification from The Athletic after a comment to the article about the fake job for the Brazilian and I basically said I’d had enough of the Athletic. The notification said “Are you alright petal?” and came, I’m certain, from one of the authors of the article. Being a notification, it’s gone, but fuck me, getting trolled by the employees of a website I pay to access (for the next week). Getting trolled by them. Wtaf?