Media Thread 2020/21

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Gorton_Tubster said:
Aye but I think that was a reason they didn't go for the ESL. Barcelona were subject to a fan vote on the issue too. But tbh I don't know if they would have a way of circumventing the fan vote.

Nonetheless the German model seems to work and we seem to be copying that. I don't think any meaningful changes will be made in the end anyway.
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Same team wins the league every year in Germany. So does it really work?
 
Gorton_Tubster said:
Aye but I think that was a reason they didn't go for the ESL. Barcelona were subject to a fan vote on the issue too. But tbh I don't know if they would have a way of circumventing the fan vote.

Nonetheless the German model seems to work and we seem to be copying that. I don't think any meaningful changes will be made in the end anyway.
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Could have been the relationship with Qatar too but I agree for something as big as that I doubt it would be legal to keep it quiet and go through with it without consulting the other 51%. The Barca case is puzzling, perhaps they just showed those fans how much financial trouble they were in without it.
 
Gingers Dad said:
Same team wins the league every year in Germany. So does it really work?
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I don't think he was talking about the competitiveness of the league, it's more about stopping decisions like the ESL being made behind the scenes(against the will of the fans) in the future. You're right though, with a 50+1 rule the competitiveness will probably go down if anything, looking at the Bundesliga, unless spending caps are put in place too. Which wont happen, so we should have neither. Just put some legislation in place I say.

The whole reason billionaires wanted into football in the first place and clubs readily accepted them, was the disparity in revenues between clubs in the big 3 and those outside of it. If there was no need for a billionaire to dream of competing, there'd be more fan owned clubs or at least fewer billionaire owners in PL. A big 3 became a big 6 and the old big 3 were saying "this isn't fair" and many blind sheep agreed with them. Despite all clubs benefiting from them being weekend by fresh competition. Because of this fresh competition, the league outgrew all the other European leagues, the revenues grew and the money was eventually distributed more evenly.
 
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wolviedinho said:
Leaving any decision to supports is mental. We cant even agree on who should play in the first 11.

Football fans are customers nothing more nothing less. The business owners use our loyalty against us.

It is a cutthroat nasty business in many ways.
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We can’t even agree on muffin vs barm
 
I kid you not.

Jim Shite this Morning on Talk Shite.

'I think' Manchester City are playing in the Carabao Cup Final against Spurs.
 
Maly said:
Why would the owner of a limited company ever give 51% control to his customers? Especially after investing over £1.3 billion of his own money? Never gonna happen & im glad it won’t
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How would fans be able to afford buying 51% of a billion pound company ? I struggle with the price of a ticket and travel
 
kippaxwarrior said:
Sky Sports News really is turning into a parody. Almost to The Day Today levels. Their latest headline

"CIVIL WAR IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE"
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Sky are loving all this. From the ESL announcement to the latest bollocks. Gives them something to discuss instead of the usual inane drivel. Bit like deadline day.
 
Metalartin said:
I see what people are saying though.

Look at the state of the Bundesliga. How much as it helped the league stay competitive? 9 in a row.

Look at Bayern and Qatar, despite none of the fans wanting anything to do with Qatar. Where did that vote go?
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The Bundesliga is heavily subsidised the last time I read about it. No way will that happen here, so owners may have to put up more money than German counter parts. What's so great about Eurooean leagues?
 
I got an email from the Football Supporters Alliance? It is full of the same sort of insincere shite the media have been coming out with.
Sol l sent a snotty e mail asking why like the media they were totally unable to see the elephantine manoeuvring of the Redshirts and had so quickly forgotten the hateful 8/9 trying to influence a court of law and to change the Premier League just a short time ago.
A bit of a rant which they will ignore probably but I did enjoy having a go.
 
Maldeika said:
Schalke despite having a lot more income than other 14 to 15 clubs in Germany have been relegated. That does not have anything to do with 50+1 but with bad management...

You cannot pin that on the 50+1 model. And getting rid of the 50+1 model does not solve the "German problems" either.
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Ok so Schalke are like Sunderland but what are the positives of the 50+1 rule? Bayern have won eight titles in a row and no one can compete with them. There must be something fundamentally wrong with German football. Leipzig come along and everyone hates them because they invest and try to compete at the highest level. But no one can compete with Bayern if they are not allowed to invest significantly (at least for a short period of time) It is a one-team cartel.
I used to love German football. Cheap tickets, great atmospheres, German beer. I have been to many games in Germany and still watch a lot on TV. It used to be on a par with English club football but the standard now is much lower than the Premier League.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
Only one really. Dortmund was actually bailed out by Bayern at one stage. Dortmund is just a feeder club. German football has been destroyed by Bayern's stranglehold on investors. Schalke with 60,000 crowds have just been relegated. The 50 plus one model would destroy English football by making it impossible to invest. They have a different fan ownership model in Spain which has ensured domination by Barca and Real for decades and creamed off most of the money.
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Thank you.
 
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