Media Thread - 2021/22

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petrusha said:
The concept of a 'rogue state' was first referred to by the American government in the George W. Bush era to denote aggressive states that threaten either the USA itself or its allies and, in doing so, have no respect for the norms of international law*. Ever since, the State Department has maintained a list of rogue states and there are currently four: Sudan, Syria, Iran and North Korea. Current ervents may see a further addition, but they haven't done it yet.

People citing the current war in Yemen, in which the UAE is part of a Saudi-led coalition fighting an insurgency, rather miss the point. The Houthi rebels are backed by two copuntries named by the US as rogue states (Iran and Syria), and the coalition involving the UAE has the backing of the US and the UK. And while the UAE certainly isn't an unimpeachable bastion of human rights, it's grossly mendacious to suggest that they're anywhere near the dismal performance in this area of Sudan, Syria, Iran and North Korea.

Conclusion - Anyone suggesting that the UAE is a rogue state is a fucking moron, probably in the clinical sense.

* - I know there are arguments that the West, and especially America, is often hypocritical in terms of being prepared to bend international law themselves while lambasting others for doing so. Can we not derail this thread with a discussion of that, please? There's plenty of scope for that in the Politics sub-forum.
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Pleasant surprise to you had quoted this, hope you are well mate.
 
petrusha said:
The concept of a 'rogue state' was first referred to by the American government in the George W. Bush era to denote aggressive states that threaten either the USA itself or its allies and, in doing so, have no respect for the norms of international law*. Ever since, the State Department has maintained a list of rogue states and there are currently four: Sudan, Syria, Iran and North Korea. Current ervents may see a further addition, but they haven't done it yet.

People citing the current war in Yemen, in which the UAE is part of a Saudi-led coalition fighting an insurgency, rather miss the point. The Houthi rebels are backed by two copuntries named by the US as rogue states (Iran and Syria), and the coalition involving the UAE has the backing of the US and the UK. And while the UAE certainly isn't an unimpeachable bastion of human rights, it's grossly mendacious to suggest that they're anywhere near the dismal performance in this area of Sudan, Syria, Iran and North Korea.

Conclusion - Anyone suggesting that the UAE is a rogue state is a fucking moron, probably in the clinical sense.

* - I know there are arguments that the West, and especially America, is often hypocritical in terms of being prepared to bend international law themselves while lambasting others for doing so. Can we not derail this thread with a discussion of that, please? There's plenty of scope for that in the Politics sub-forum.
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Agreed. The whole idea is preposterous and anyone saying it, or listening to it, doesn't understand what it means.
 
Talk Shite and Jim Shite talking about United again!

Why doesn’t Talk Shite just have a Talk United show and be done with it? Then Talk Shite can talk about United 24/7, and get all the Rag plastics listeners from London, the Home Counties, Ireland, Wales, and across the World to ring into the show.
 
jrb said:
Talk Shite and Jim Shite talking about United again!

Why doesn’t Talk Shite just have a Talk United show and be done with it? Then Talk Shite can talk about United 24/7, and get all the Rag plastics listeners from London, the Home Counties, Ireland, Wales, and across the World to ring into the show.
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What was there new to discuss? Their result at the weekend was hardly a shock, and the rest of their season is meaningless. I know they always find something for them, but on this occasion I can’t see what!
 
I predict the attack line will be City cheat new FIFA regulations on hoarding young players by using CFG to launder them.


Meanwhile talkshite are blowing up Klopps hole this morning.
 
Earlier ,heard a bit on Talktripe ,I know ,I know,but couldn't believe the amount of sycophantic grovelling.Some scots bloke and an ex Dipper,getting quite emotional about the wonderful reception they had at Klanfield on Saturday."It was like being a member of the family" ",people opened doors for you" .No mention of the five year ban from Europe, computer hacking ,bus wrecking , or how the rest of the country views them and their 'istree .Probably all part of the build up for the next few games and attempt to portray them as plucky underdogs.
 
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