Media Thread - 2021/22

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I always try and be objective and no things are ever black and white. One thing did occur to me though, there were numerous reports of LFC fans with genuine tickets not getting into the ground at all.
Thus I would have expected huge gaps at the LFC end, yet it looked absolutely rammed at kick off. This can only mean one thing, a fair chunk of these people had gained entry by nefarious means.
i‘m sure there are a lot of decent people who support LFC but that club should also take some responsibility, especially when Klopp advised fans without a ticket to travel anyway.
The whole event has gone up in tear gas for the Dippers. Instead of some critical analysis on how fake tickets in the Dipper end got in, presumably in the hands of Dipper fans, the usual fan, club, media and local politicians' reaction is to wade in pointing the finger as far away from the culprits wearing Liverpool shirts - the Stade de France can't cope, Uefa can't organise a piss up in a brewery, etc! Why would French locals forge a ticket to go and sit among Liverpool fans? It's nonsense. I flew to Frankfurt some years ago when the plane was stuffed with Dippers on their way to Portugal. I felt I was on the fuckin' Kop for an hour or so! Not the pleasantest hour I've spent travelling.
 
In the DM today, Big Chief Erik Ten Pegs is doing a "Fergie" in claiming HE will be the man to push City & Liverpool from the top. He broke the PSV Feyenoord duo monopoly in Holland and he'll do it in England.

Also the Mail, claiming only 1% of worldwide City fans live in the UK. At the same time, they claim United have 190m world-wide fans, so surely an even lower percentage live here?

The paper's 3rd "attack" is City's over-sensitive reaction when ever money is mentioned.
 
Rebeca Tavares (Ex footballer and married to Fabinho) posted a picture of their 'massive' crowd at the parade on Twitter which turned out to be an old picture from a previous parade.
Forgot to mention she also captioned the image with "There are just some things oil can't buy".
 
Sky claiming 500,000 at Liverpool’s parade.

Confirmation if we ever needed that these parade figures the scousers put out are just made up.

Why is it so exact and why did it look like less than 10x that?
They’re all bullshit! How can you estimate the size of a crowd like that? Fans walking alongside the bus, appearing at different points, load of bollocks, not that it matters.

I don’t question Rangers support, but their estimated 100,000 in Seville was clearly made up bollocks as well - 30,000 in the ground and another 20,000 on the big screen - where was everyone else?
 
They’re all bullshit! How can you estimate the size of a crowd like that? Fans walking alongside the bus, appearing at different points, load of bollocks, not that it matters.

I don’t question Rangers support, but their estimated 100,000 in Seville was clearly made up bollocks as well - 30,000 in the ground and another 20,000 on the big screen - where was everyone else?
In the knocking shops...
 
Mea culpa time.
My future son in law, in his early 40s, is a seasoncard holder at Klanfield. He runs his own successful employment bureau business - high tech clients only, no riff raff, and went to Paris with his mates. All had "proper" tickets. They got there early, and had no problems getting in. In fact, he had no problems whatsoever (apart from the result) and remained safe throughout his stay. He and his mates then flew to Glasgow yesterday, to enjoy a couple of days golfing.
His cousin, in his 30s, also went, again with a proper ticket. He was caught up in the queues and tear gassed. He got in the ground at half time, but was sick all through the match, and wished he hadn't gone.
Like the majority of posters on here (?), he's a genuine supporter of his club and has no time for the morons who bring shame on their team.
I've posted this just to bring a bit of balance to the general condemnation of the events that took place. Not all fans can be tarred with the same brush.
I think the evidence so far seems pretty clear that the majority of decent Liverpool fans (and they are a majority) were treated terribly by the French police. Not a surprise to anyone who has attended a football match in France. That an element of LFC fans plus the local street thugs tried to gain entry illegally. Not a surprise to anyone. And that the overall organisation of the event by EUFA was a total shambles. Also no surprise to anyone who has attended any UEFA events.
And let's be honest a lot of people on this forum called it in advance. If it had been City v Liverpool in Paris it would have been carnage. So why the hell were the media and press so surprised by what happened? My own personal experience of Paris these days (a crime-ridden dump) would stop me ever going to a football match there.
 
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