Media Thread - 2021/22

[eversince 76]

I have never witnessed as many replays of a handball as I did last night. ITV, and others, are truly desperate to be on the side of United.

If we score a debatable goal, rules will be changed. As they will when the rags concede a debatable one.

 

[Blueboy73]

If we score a debatable goal, rules will be changed. As they will when the rags concede a debatable one.

Didn't they change the rules mid-season after our first goal at home against Villa last season?
I seem to recall Walton making a tit of himself for the umpteenth time when providing his "expert" opinion on BT Spite.

 

[1961_vintage]

I have never witnessed as many replays of a handball as I did last night. ITV, and others, are truly desperate to be on the side of United.

There's a lot of money in it for them. They will be devastated not to be able to option the rags game in the next round.

 

[Marvin]

Keano apart ITV were inept last night. Man Utd fans would not be so generous with their praise for a 1st half where they missed easy chances. The job is not to create chances but to finish them. And as for the handball goal! If you commentate on football, learn the handball rules. It's completely obvious why the goal was not given. An accidental handball is not an offence in the build-up to a goal if that player doesn't put it in the net.

BBC get criticism for one-eyed reds like Simon Stone but their live and highlights coverage are good imo. ITV are so commercialised that they are too concerned about playing up to Man Utd and Liverpool fans who they think are the majority of their watching support.

 

[Marvin]

There's a lot of money in it for them. They will be devastated not to be able to option the rags game in the next round.

It is as simple as that. Makes it sweeter when they crash out.

Now city show them how it's done

 

[East Level 2]

I have never witnessed as many replays of a handball as I did last night. ITV, and others, are truly desperate to be on the side of United.

I expect the game to be declared null and void before the draw for the 5th round. Re-played game to be awarded to the rags to keep the TV companies happy.

 

[bigalfromeccles]

Marvin...dont get offended but that handball comment is soooo wrong...and heres why...It is an offence if a player:

• after the ball has touched their or a team-mate’s hand/arm, even if accidental, immediately:
• scores in the opponents’ goal

But your right in as much as it was a goal !! but for this reason (i believe).
it is not an offence if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm:
directly from the player’s own head or body (including the foot)

The boro player clearly kicks the ball against his own arm!

 

[Jimmieblue]

Imagine being a Middlesbrough supporter watching that last night. It was endless analysis, reminiscence and drooling over the rags. It really isn’t acceptable to the other clubs in the Premier League- I did think it was so unbalanced.

 

[bakerdave76]

Keano apart ITV were inept last night. Man Utd fans would not be so generous with their praise for a 1st half where they missed easy chances. The job is not to create chances but to finish them. And as for the handball goal! If you commentate on football, learn the handball rules. It's completely obvious why the goal was not given. An accidental handball is not an offence in the build-up to a goal if that player doesn't put it in the net.

BBC get criticism for one-eyed reds like Simon Stone but their live and highlights coverage are good imo. ITV are so commercialised that they are too concerned about playing up to Man Utd and Liverpool fans who they think are the majority of their watching support.

Keano ..

 

[old get]

In most factories the shift would be 6am to 2pm. That is why the traditional k.o. time is 3pm. No absenteeism (one shift only Saturday), just time for a pint and off to the match. People think that the rags is a Catholic club (which it isn't) because Trafford Park had thousands of Irish immegrant workers whose nearest game would be at the swamp.

Historically wrong. Continuous Shift Working was a relative novelty in the 50s and 60s confined mainly to the Petro Chemical sector. However places like Metrovics, Turners and Lancashire Dynamo would have Saturday AM as part of a mans normal working week.
As I recall Trafford Park would have had less than 2000 residents in those days because of little by way of housing or shops and those thousands of Irish Immegrant workers were almost exclusively engaged in the demolition and construction sectors

 

[Marvin]

Marvin...dont get offended but that handball comment is soooo wrong...and heres why...It is an offence if a player:

• after the ball has touched their or a team-mate’s hand/arm, even if accidental, immediately:
• scores in the opponents’ goal

But your right in as much as it was a goal !! but for this reason (i believe).
it is not an offence if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm:
directly from the player’s own head or body (including the foot)

The boro player clearly kicks the ball against his own arm!

It was clearly accidental. And the player who accidentally handballs it doesn't put in in the goal. Therefore no offence.

 

[Marvin]

Keano ..

Keane then. Whatever you call him, he's got more integrity than most people who work in the media. If Utd are sh't. he will say so. As a player I hated him. As a pundit, I like him. He speaks with his heart and isn't in to placating Man Utd fans

 

[Norman kneejerk]

Wasn’t Trafford Park the largest employer in factory’s in 1950s & 60s, wouldn’t that have had a bigger impact on crowds. Finish work Saturday at 12pm, then a few pints until they close just as the football starts?

Im not sure if any truth in it but my old fella used to talk about how many people worked there.

Yes not really time to change buses after work, so tended to go to the team nearest their factory, so MR more reachable from East Manchester, Gorton etc

 

[cheekybids]

I expect the game to be declared null and void before the draw for the 5th round. Re-played game to be awarded to the rags to keep the TV companies happy.

Won’t be the first time VAR got involved after he final whistle.

 

[cheekybids]

Keano ..

Made my eyes sting….

 

[Ghandi's Flip Flops]

In most factories the shift would be 6am to 2pm. That is why the traditional k.o. time is 3pm. No absenteeism (one shift only Saturday), just time for a pint and off to the match. People think that the rags is a Catholic club (which it isn't) because Trafford Park had thousands of Irish immegrant workers whose nearest game would be at the swamp.

Used to go to Pontefract races years ago, and their 1st race always started about 2.15 or 2.20.
Pretty sure this was to allow the miners coming off shift, from the colliery nearby, to get in the course and get their bets on

 

[Stiff Little Wingers]

Imagine being a Middlesbrough supporter en£watching that last night. It was endless eomanalysis, reminiscence and drooling over the rags. It really isn’t acceptable to the other clubs in the Premier League- I did think it was so unbalanced.

Yes. Compare to commentary on City (and on City women) where most of the commentary is on the opposition - “how do you think team x can hurt City?” “From team x point of view, its been a solid 20 mins”. “that was what team x needs to do more of, hit it long etc, target Zinchenko etc”. You get none of that with the Rags.
As for Dixon, he’s a nob and trying pitifully tone funny he’s more of a nob,
As for the Boro goal, it was legal according to the rules. We could all see it was a legal goal and for them to keep on undermining the rules pissed me right off.

 

[ancoats]

Yes. Compare to commentary on City (and on City women) where most of the commentary is on the opposition - “how do you think team x can hurt City?” “From team x point of view, its been a solid 20 mins”. “that was what team x needs to do more of, hit it long etc, target Zinchenko etc”. You get none of that with the Rags.
As for Dixon, he’s a nob and trying pitifully tone funny he’s more of a nob,
As for the Boro goal, it was legal according to the rules. We could all see it was a legal goal and for them to keep on undermining the rules pissed me right off.

you can bet if united and ronaldo score that so called hand ball goal it gets washed over and not even talked about. they got away with a offside goal vs west ham and VAR and the media said nothing.

 

[Kippax77]

Imagine being a Middlesbrough supporter watching that last night. It was endless analysis, reminiscence and drooling over the rags. It really isn’t acceptable to the other clubs in the Premier League- I did think it was so unbalanced.

Said during the game to Mrs Kippax, wheres the romance of the FA Cup gone?
The commentary was so one sided it could of been mistaken for an Alf Ramsey's 11 vs Hitler's SS

 

[JASR]

Yes. Compare to commentary on City (and on City women) where most of the commentary is on the opposition - “how do you think team x can hurt City?” “From team x point of view, its been a solid 20 mins”. “that was what team x needs to do more of, hit it long etc, target Zinchenko etc”. You get none of that with the Rags.
As for Dixon, he’s a nob and trying pitifully tone funny he’s more of a nob,
As for the Boro goal, it was legal according to the rules. We could all see it was a legal goal and for them to keep on undermining the rules pissed me right off.

It is rather odd that tv companies constantly run with the thread of supporting the ‘big’ 6 (minus 1…) clubs.

even with United’s 1bn (ha!) ‘supporters’ the majority of viewers will be hoping for the other team to win, no matter who they are.

but they alienate the vast majority of their audience by concentrating on the ‘big’ club.

I get that they pick a ‘big’ club to televise matches for, because it drives the audience, (it will always be bigger than a level 3 vs level 4) but I think they misinterpret the reasons the majority are watching. They are watching not to want the ‘big’ team to win, but to lose. And the majority are far more interested in the story of the other team and how they played than the repeated ad nauseum bollox of how the ‘big’ team played.

it’s noticeable that the ‘big’ team fans are all ‘not interested’ in football anymore, but that’s just united, and previously Arsenal spouting off. The lower tiers and grass roots football (ie anyone other than the ‘big’) is flourishing.. and yet tv companies just pander to the ‘big’ and ignore their far bigger potential audience.

‘Big’ football is on the cusp of eating itself, but it only has itself to blame by belittling the majority.