citizen_maine
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Media thread 2022/23
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I still think the Human Freedom Index is a good indicator of regimes and how countries compare. They seem to cover everything(religion, justice system etc) and the points system seems to make sense.
https://www.cato.org/human-freedom-index/2021
In terms of the Middle East to North Africa region, Qatar and the UAE are 6th and 7th highest out of the 19 listed. In terms of global ranking, they are 128th and 131st out of 165 respectively. Turkey, Vietnam, Morocco, Pakistan are worse for human rights. They are nowhere near the likes of Saudi(155th), Iran(160th) or even China(150th), especially if you consider the points difference between some of those.
They are both pretty close to Russia(126th) in those terms, so I think we can look at the way the last world cup was handled by the media and at least ask the question, if the level of criticism and negative attention Qatar have received by the sports press is proportional or not. I think you can add the UAE to that too, since that's ongoing and more intense IMO, even though they aren't hosting any major football events. It's almost as if they have some extra motivation from somewhere... I think that's the angle City fans might be looking at it from, it's not really defending Qatar or even the UAE as such.
https://www.cato.org/human-freedom-index/2021
In terms of the Middle East to North Africa region, Qatar and the UAE are 6th and 7th highest out of the 19 listed. In terms of global ranking, they are 128th and 131st out of 165 respectively. Turkey, Vietnam, Morocco, Pakistan are worse for human rights. They are nowhere near the likes of Saudi(155th), Iran(160th) or even China(150th), especially if you consider the points difference between some of those.
They are both pretty close to Russia(126th) in those terms, so I think we can look at the way the last world cup was handled by the media and at least ask the question, if the level of criticism and negative attention Qatar have received by the sports press is proportional or not. I think you can add the UAE to that too, since that's ongoing and more intense IMO, even though they aren't hosting any major football events. It's almost as if they have some extra motivation from somewhere... I think that's the angle City fans might be looking at it from, it's not really defending Qatar or even the UAE as such.
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I think some journalists have dug themselves a bit of a hole with their constant snipes at City’s and more recently Newcastle’s owners.
A lot of the same recent converts to Amnesty International have been writing for decades about how we should keep politics out of sports. Many of them spent most of the 1980s crying about how wonderful South African sportsmen were being cruelly denied an international stage through no fault of their own.
I’ve read hundreds of articles over the years detailing how sport is a release from the harsh realities of life. We should enjoy it for what it is and leave the politics to the politicians.
But when they suddenly decided that it’s their job to highlight the atrocities going on in Abu Dhabi and Dubai, it’s left them with no choice but to put the spotlight on Qatar now.
A lot of the same recent converts to Amnesty International have been writing for decades about how we should keep politics out of sports. Many of them spent most of the 1980s crying about how wonderful South African sportsmen were being cruelly denied an international stage through no fault of their own.
I’ve read hundreds of articles over the years detailing how sport is a release from the harsh realities of life. We should enjoy it for what it is and leave the politics to the politicians.
But when they suddenly decided that it’s their job to highlight the atrocities going on in Abu Dhabi and Dubai, it’s left them with no choice but to put the spotlight on Qatar now.
Trevor Morley's Tache
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Similar to the McLava apple pie.McScalding
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I’ve seen top class premier league keepers do same.
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Naturally. I’m sure they got their fair share of criticism.I’ve seen top class premier league keepers do same.
I wonder if Peter Enckleman is out of therapy yet. ;-)
Correct, particularly UEFA. Notice all the ‘Etihad’ signs covered when we play CL games.I saw that. I think it might be because sponsors named grounds aren’t allowed in certain international tournaments.
Remember Schmeichel v Ipswich? That was a good oneNaturally. I’m sure they got their fair share of criticism.
I wonder if Peter Enckleman is out of therapy yet. ;-)
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Of course, but have we compared and contrasted how the media reported it? ;-)Remember Schmeichel v Ipswich? That was a good one
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He's been asked a few times and refuses to answer. They don't like it up 'em Captain Mainwaring!As well as being a sports correspondent of Al Jazeera(State Owned Qatari news broadcaster) before that I believe. Loves the Qataris Rob does, probably because they pay him well. Someone needs to ask if he took a bung from the Qataris at some point in his career.
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