Media thread 2022/23

[bobbyowenquiff]

Bollox. The number of times he has been tackled from behind. In fact against Leeds he was chased across the half way line by a player who tried to push him and then, a few minutes later, the same player had him by the shirt. There really is a narrative against the guy.

He is skilful at winning fouls and sometimes that can help us but sometimes he goes down blind alleys and that slows us down. I am not suggesting he isn’t sometimes hacked down by opponents or pulled back.

 

[halfcenturyup]

"Chelsea Rent Boys"

It will no doubt be sung tomorrow and reported on far differently.

Can anyone explain to me why the chant is homophobic? I have read up on "gay" media and understand the historic and cultural homosexual and prostitution reference of the Chelsea area. I also understand that several old men who wear robes and wigs have determined that the chant is homophobic. Not surprisingly.

But I can't understand why it is and struggle to see who it is that is taking offence and why? Is it homosexuals who are offended at being called homosexuals? Homosexuals who are offended at being called prostitutes? Homosexual prostitutes who are offended in some way? Or heterosexuals offended by being called homosexual prostitutes?

It's a genuine question. I am old. I don't get it and that may just be a reflection on me or my age group. But I don't think so.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

I’ve read the shortened version, talks about der speigal but reference to the CAS throwing the case out. Not like that would put a slant on why nothing has happened eh?

The Mancini claim relates to a period before FFP was introduced in the PL. There is nothing wrong with it at all. It was probably done to legally reduce his tax bill. Consultancy is not illegal and it happened 13 years ago. I wonder who the senior figures who are concerned about this? This smear campaign will never end.

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

The Mancini claim relates to a period before FFP was introduced in the PL. There is nothing wrong with it at all. It was probably done to legally reduce his tax bill. Consultancy is not illegal and it happened 13 years ago. I wonder who the senior figures who are concerned about this? This smear campaign will never end.

The longer this rumbles on the dafter it makes the Premier league look. Are they expecting new evidence to fall out of the sky for something that happened over a decade ago? I wonder how quickly the case would have been closed if it was those pesky scousers?

 

[JASR]

Martin Ziegler:

The Premier League’s investigation into alleged rule breaches by Manchester City has entered its fifth year with senior football figures believing the delay is an increasingly bad look for the English game.

A High Court judge said in July 2021 that it was “a legitimate public concern” that an investigation launched in December 2018 had made so little progress, but 18 months later it is still going on.

The Premier League launched its inquiry after documents obtained by a computer hacker were published by the German news website Der Spiegel, alleging that City’s Abu Dhabi owners made payments to the club instead of sponsors and also made secret payments to agents.

One senior figure in football has described the delays as “disgraceful”, especially at a time when an independent regulator is about to be brought into the English game. Although the regulator would not take over disciplinary functions from the leagues, clubs could land themselves in serious trouble if they provide inaccurate information to a statutory body.


City have always denied wrongdoing and their lawyers told the court in 2021 that “it may be that no charges will ever be brought”.

Last May, Der Spiegel published City’s contract with Roberto Mancini, their manager from 2009 to 2013, detailing how more than half of his basic salary was paid to his company via a consultancy contract with the Abu Dhabi-based club Al Jazira.

After the leaks, City overturned a Champions League ban imposed by Uefa, as many of the alleged offences were time-barred, but no such time restriction operates in the Premier League.

The July 2021 court ruling revealed that City had lost a challenge over an arbitration panel’s right to hear the case and had been obliged to hand over documents.

lol time-barred. As ever the many multiple instances of 'no evidence' in the CAS statement are missed off from the continued after-the-fact reporting

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

The longer this rumbles on the dafter it makes the Premier league look. Are they expecting new evidence to fall out of the sky for something that happened over a decade ago? I wonder how quickly the case would have been closed if it was those pesky scousers?

Closed against the dippers ?

Would never have opened in the first place .

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

The longer this rumbles on the dafter it makes the Premier league look. Are they expecting new evidence to fall out of the sky for something that happened over a decade ago? I wonder how quickly the case would have been closed if it was those pesky scousers?

There is no evidence. That’s why CAS dismissed the case immediately and drastically reduced our sanction for non-co-operation. The story here is who are the “senior figures in football” who are still negatively briefing the Times? And what is their motive?

 

[Inter Me Nan]

Martin Ziegler:

The Premier League’s investigation into alleged rule breaches by Manchester City has entered its fifth year with senior football figures believing the delay is an increasingly bad look for the English game.

A High Court judge said in July 2021 that it was “a legitimate public concern” that an investigation launched in December 2018 had made so little progress, but 18 months later it is still going on.

The Premier League launched its inquiry after documents obtained by a computer hacker were published by the German news website Der Spiegel, alleging that City’s Abu Dhabi owners made payments to the club instead of sponsors and also made secret payments to agents.

One senior figure in football has described the delays as “disgraceful”, especially at a time when an independent regulator is about to be brought into the English game. Although the regulator would not take over disciplinary functions from the leagues, clubs could land themselves in serious trouble if they provide inaccurate information to a statutory body.


City have always denied wrongdoing and their lawyers told the court in 2021 that “it may be that no charges will ever be brought”.

Last May, Der Spiegel published City’s contract with Roberto Mancini, their manager from 2009 to 2013, detailing how more than half of his basic salary was paid to his company via a consultancy contract with the Abu Dhabi-based club Al Jazira.

After the leaks, City overturned a Champions League ban imposed by Uefa, as many of the alleged offences were time-barred, but no such time restriction operates in the Premier League.

The July 2021 court ruling revealed that City had lost a challenge over an arbitration panel’s right to hear the case and had been obliged to hand over documents.

Oh Martin, my sweet summer child.

 

[hammocity]

The longer this rumbles on the dafter it makes the Premier league look. Are they expecting new evidence to fall out of the sky for something that happened over a decade ago? I wonder how quickly the case would have been closed if it was those pesky scousers?

Or those naughty Chavs who propped up their club with an interest free 1.6b loan that has been written off and replaced with an 800m loan to spend on players, effectively circumventing FFP rules.

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

There is no evidence. That’s why CAS dismissed the case immediately and drastically reduced our sanction for non-co-operation. The story here is who are the “senior figures in football” who are still negatively briefing the Times? And what is their motive?

Not one journalist has raised the point that a corrupt organisation like Uefa guided by major clubs in Europe and the premier league set out to destroy a football club because of their jealousy at what has been created at City. They tried to do this with illegally obtained information that held no weight in an independent court of law.