Media thread 2022/23

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He's also not very bright, although amazingly I've seen numerous claims to the contrary. I've never thought him in any way smart, but I've been living outside the UK ever since he started on talkSPORT so wondered if I might be missing something. To make that assessment, I've been monitoring for quite a while those clips that the station put out on social media to showcase what are presumably considered his more pertinent comments.

I'm glad to say I've been conclusively vindicated in my original view. His ability to construct any kind of reasoned argument is manifestly pitiable. However, even though being marginally more eloquent than the station's other pundits is really no kind of qualification, some people seem to regard him as well spoken, with an impressive vocabulary.

This notion is bollocks, as well, not least because when he tries to deploy what are big words by talkSPORT standards, he frequently misuses them. For instance, the last time I looked at one of those short videos of him making a point, he used 'patronage' as a verb. That's not indicative of someone who's articulate in any way (the word you were groping for ineffectually, Simon, was 'patronize', in the sense of being a regular customer). All this shows him up as someone who's trying desperately to look clever but is really an impostor, lacking any genuine intellectual prowess.

That's to say nothing of the fact that he's risibly proclaimed an expert in the off-field side of football when his credentials involve inept blundering to lead Crystal Palace into an insolvency event. Only in the British sports media could a demonstrable clown and weapons-grade **** like this be held up as a paragon of informed intelligence.

Brilliant. As you quite rightly state, he regularly uses words out of context.

This twat reminds me of another fraud, former footballer Paul Elliott.

Anyone who had the misfortune listening to his old Football Italia commentaries, will recall someone who used word spaghetti for literally everything?

Such is Simon Jordan's level of importance, he finds himself available to work for Talk fucking Sport every morning 10-12.

Smacks of someone being pulled pillar to post in the heavyweight world of business and finance?

Thank fuck for Airplane mode, eh!
 
New Premier League regulations to control who can buy football clubs – report

3 hrs ago
Everton fans set off flares outside the ground ahead of the Premier League match at Goodison Park, Liverpoo
Everton fans set off flares outside the ground ahead of the Premier League match at Goodison Park, Liverpoo
New legislation for the Premier League is reportedly set to trigger a major shakeup to how football clubs are run.

The yet-to-released Football White Paper, which The Sun claims to have seen in advance, will enforce tougher regulations on who can own clubs.

The measure will make sure only “fit and proper custodians” can take over outfits, in a bid to prevent multi-millionaires who cannot prove they amassed their fortune legitimately from owning English football clubs.

According to The Sun, the new regulations will also stop “greedy clubs” from joining breakaway competitions like the European Super League — which triggered huge protests by fans in 2021.

File photo dated 19-04-2021 of Leeds United players wearing ‘Football Is For The Fans’ shirts during the warm up at Elland Road, Leeds
The reforms will reportedly give fans more of a say in how clubs are run (Clive Brunskill/PA)
While all clubs in the top five flights of English football will need to gain a fresh licence to play under the proposals.

The reform will give fans more of a say in how clubs are run and stop bosses from radically changing kits and logos, the paper adds.

Culture Secretary Michelle Donelan reportedly wants the regulator in place for the 2024/25 season and will “formally unveil legislation imminently”.

Reports of the Football White Paper – which The Sun says Cabinet will soon be signing off on – comes after an independent Fan-Led Review of Football Governance by Tory MP Tracey Crouch in late 2022.

Fans watch on during the Barclays Women’s Super League match at Kingsmeadow, London
The White Paper will reportedly prevent multi-millionaires who cannot prove they amassed their fortune legitimately from owning English football clubs (Zac Goodwin/PA)
The latest review – an update on the Government-commissioned report into the game in November 2021 – included 10 key recommendations, each supported by more detailed strategy.

It proposed for a new independent regulator for English football to oversee financial regulation in the sport “to ensure financial sustainability of the professional game”.

Other parts of the strategy addressed corporate governance, diversity and new tests for club owners and directors.

The release of the White Paper has already seen several delays due to changing Conservative leadership – among other factors.

Pie-in-the-sky fantasy. Wrong on so many levels it's impossible to deal with them all here. Just for now we'll leave the inability of government to improve anything to one side and look at a couple of the more obvious practicalities;

1) what's the definition of "fit and proper" ? It's so subjective it has to, ultimately, be decided by a Court. You cannot even disqualify an ordinary director without a Court Order (except by consent) and the process takes years. Time you don't have in business, particularly if the club is in Administration at the time (bear in mind it will have to encompass all clubs because a suspect owner could buy a league club and get promotion to the PL)

2) What jurisdiction will this quango have to examine evidence of suitability produced by, say, a prospective buyer from America

3) How will the targets of this quango be identified ? By vetting only new owners or by acting on complaints that will probably be vexatious ?

4) Who is actually going to do the physical investigation and make the recommendation not to accept this person ? A civil servant paid £45k a year ?

4) Who will actually make the decision to bar a prospective owner ? Presumably the head of the quango or the Secretary of State ? Good luck in Court.

As others have said, it's a tax on one of the most successful products we have. Still, women's football will be better off.
 
He's also not very bright, although amazingly I've seen numerous claims to the contrary. I've never thought him in any way smart, but I've been living outside the UK ever since he started on talkSPORT so wondered if I might be missing something. To make that assessment, I've been monitoring for quite a while those clips that the station put out on social media to showcase what are presumably considered his more pertinent comments.

I'm glad to say I've been conclusively vindicated in my original view. His ability to construct any kind of reasoned argument is manifestly pitiable. However, even though being marginally more eloquent than the station's other pundits is really no kind of qualification, some people seem to regard him as well spoken, with an impressive vocabulary.

This notion is bollocks, as well, not least because when he tries to deploy what are big words by talkSPORT standards, he frequently misuses them. For instance, the last time I looked at one of those short videos of him making a point, he used 'patronage' as a verb. That's not indicative of someone who's articulate in any way (the word you were groping for ineffectually, Simon, was 'patronize', in the sense of being a regular customer). All this shows him up as someone who's trying desperately to look clever but is really an impostor, lacking any genuine intellectual prowess.

That's to say nothing of the fact that he's risibly proclaimed an expert in the off-field side of football when his credentials involve inept blundering to lead Crystal Palace into an insolvency event. Only in the British sports media could a demonstrable clown and weapons-grade **** like this be held up as a paragon of informed intelligence.

You're right.

He peppers his rambling monologues with "big" words that he frequently uses out of context. He lacks the ability to construct a narrative, a beginning, middle, and an end. On the rare occasion he comes to a conclusion, it often bears no relationship to the rubbish that preceded it.
 
The white paper is for fans who are a happy flowers type. We don’t want this?

I welcome anything that gets us more input whilst protecting the heritage of clubs and its integral fanbase. Investment should be encouraged and debt flagged up. Fans need their pockets protecting during any overhaul.
 
Pie-in-the-sky fantasy. Wrong on so many levels it's impossible to deal with them all here. Just for now we'll leave the inability of government to improve anything to one side and look at a couple of the more obvious practicalities;

1) what's the definition of "fit and proper" ? It's so subjective it has to, ultimately, be decided by a Court. You cannot even disqualify an ordinary director without a Court Order (except by consent) and the process takes years. Time you don't have in business, particularly if the club is in Administration at the time (bear in mind it will have to encompass all clubs because a suspect owner could buy a league club and get promotion to the PL)

2) What jurisdiction will this quango have to examine evidence of suitability produced by, say, a prospective buyer from America

3) How will the targets of this quango be identified ? By vetting only new owners or by acting on complaints that will probably be vexatious ?

4) Who is actually going to do the physical investigation and make the recommendation not to accept this person ? A civil servant paid £45k a year ?

4) Who will actually make the decision to bar a prospective owner ? Presumably the head of the quango or the Secretary of State ? Good luck in Court.

As others have said, it's a tax on one of the most successful products we have. Still, women's football will be better off.

Agree with you! They say they going to make sure the new owner has the money!? So the glazers didn’t have the money the banks had the money and used the rags stadium as collateral! Is a never ending loan have debt for ever more is fine as long as they keep paying the monthly loan money till the banks!
 
Sure didn’t Pep have to come out in a press conference and explain to the media cunts how we funded the Grealish transfer by selling academy players.

The spotlight on City is nauseating & hateful. All because we managed to do what they all dreaded…mainly reaching their level using the commercial appeal of the premier league and setting up a world class academy. Those two things along with a rich owner allowed us to reach and stay at the top. Once the establishment deemed that city were not a rich plaything the knives came out.

Our biggest problem is those who control the media narrative have a vested interest to keep the rags/scousers on top. How we overcome this particular problem is not clear.
I think you are right this is the main part of it. We have surpassed United and Liverpool which was our main crime and a lot on a personal level can't stand and commercially it must have hit subs, reading and viewing figures e.g tbe pubs packed full of tossers from 15 years ago seems much less a thing. They want to believe it can only have happened by cheating such is their delusion and prejudice to city.
Chelsea and Newcastle on the other hand add to interest and viewing figures from different regions provided they don't go too far its less damaging and humiliating. I think the race aspect is a factor but that's more an angle of attack because they ca t stand seeing city do well regardless who owns them it would be wrong.
 
I would think that a major issue would be finding a player willing to be potentially tied to a club for 8 years, with whoever is the manager in the future. The player would likely be no more than 23 at the time of signing.

I don't view it as a loophole or particularly annoying - it seems pretty risky to me.
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The white paper is for fans who are a happy flowers type. We don’t want this?

I welcome anything that gets us more input whilst protecting the heritage of clubs and its integral fanbase. Investment should be encouraged and debt flagged up. Fans need their pockets protecting during any overhaul.
Which club has borrowed 800m to put them at risk? FFP should focus on debt and not just turnover to expenses A leveraged buy out at the Rags had seen their owner take out hundreds of millions from the game whereas our Club has invested without putting the club at risk and kept the money in the game.
 
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