Media thread 2022/23

[Blue Llama]

Well colour me blind. Pretty accurate and fair analysis. This is all we ask, no snide digs about money or seats but a simple reality. Investment is a huge factor in success. Throw in Khaldoon, Txiki, Pep and you have a winning machine.

Mike Minay has done a few positive City articles recently

 

[blue is best]

Mike Minay has done a few positive City articles recently

Nice to have a bit of truth and balance at last…he won’t last ;))

 

[Shaggy]

Captain Black, very good, I like that.

 

[Moss Side's Finest]

It's not what the treble would mean to me and you, it's all about what it means to the journalists and apparently it wouldn't be very e live in the same village that Tyson Fury's

Ian Herbert deserves a fucking slap today for that Cult press office bollcks

He lives in the same village that Tyson Fury's family used to live in. One of them should have given him a slap

 

[TonyM]

I have long said that if we must compare spending between clubs—and I still don’t think we need to do so—net spend per trophy should be used, because it puts the relatively similar outlays in perspective. And it also separates the well run clubs making smart decisions (both in and out of the club) from those being run very poorly (United, Spurs, Everton, now Chelsea and until this season, Arsenal).

We absolutely piss on all the other clubs when you look at net spend per trophy, but analysts and pundits don’t want to use it because it exposes the cash cow clubs for being hugely wasteful and ineffective in comparison.

I think its better to calculate the net spend per position in the table. Or net spend per point.

 

[SebastianBlue]

I think its better to calculate the net spend per position in the table. Or net spend per point.

I think that can be helpful, but it doesn’t really illustrate how *far* ahead we are, especially in the context of the point of playing football at this level: winning silverware.

Net spend per point would be favoured by the likes of Levy to make a case that Spurs are actually a quite well run club. ;-)

 

[CJH]

Mike Minay has done a few positive City articles recently

Well, he is the City commentator on radio Manchester. I am surprised they have put something like that on the BBC web site though.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Have a laugh at his column today. Him pictured with his family in the Wrexham end and saying how the owners have given pride back to the community.

Which is fair comment. The problem is the inconsistency when talking about City.

 

[bluenova]

I think its better to calculate the net spend per position in the table. Or net spend per point.

If you are going to compare anything that's easily accessible, it has to be wages. That's where the big money goes, and it reflects the players you have.

Net spend has so many other factors, and us being "mid-table" spenders, proves it's bollocks, as the more successful and settled a club is, the easier it is to keep net spend down. Our net spend was obviously horrendous when we were trying to catch the rich clubs after the takeover - now we can sell players for high prices, and just being on our books adds a premium to sales of young players.

 

[SebastianBlue]

If you are going to compare anything that's easily accessible, it has to be wages. That's where the big money goes, and it reflects the players you have.

Net spend has so many other factors, and us being "mid-table" spenders, proves it's bollocks, as the more successful and settled a club is, the easier it is to keep net spend down. Our net spend was obviously horrendous when we were trying to catch the rich clubs after the takeover - now we can sell players for high prices, and just being on our books adds a premium to sales of young players.

Unfortunately, using wages as a baseline metric for achievement still hide the true gulf in achievement between clubs.

Again, the point of playing football at this level is to win silverware. Everything else is just filler in the end.

So if we must compare clubs based on finances, it must be per trophy. And net spend per trophy is arguably the best way to normalise (and contextualise) performance across vastly different financial structures and levels of resource.

Using any other category can make the Spurs of the world look “well run” and “high achieving”, when they are nothing of the sort.